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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:32
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american not an ethnicity? no, i suppose not. but what would call that environment that we were raised in?
even if our parents didn't, we took on american values. our language of choice is english, not our parents' native tongues. when they scold us, instead of meekly bowing our heads, we talk back--in english. we eat fast food without a second thought; coke is as much of a part of our diet as rice. we feel comfortable fooling around and being noisy with others; we're less buttoned down than our forefathers.
we date people who our parents might not approve of. some of them are even "outside the race", which our parents think should be pure. our asian "ethnicity" we wear and shed as if it were no more than another shirt we would wear: when it's convenient, we're asian. when it's not, we're generic american.
sure, our bloodlines show that we're from asia. our faces make us look foreign, "inscrutable" and alien. but internally, we're all-american. so what is our ethnicity? it's not korean, it's not japanese, it's not chinese. it's not vietnamese, nor thai, nor laotian.
what is it then? our default culture is american. who are we? not foreigners.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:32
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As I said, culture is not enough to claim a comon ethnicity. Being an American is not an ethnic label yet- a national one, a cultural one, yes, NOT an ethnic one.
Many African-Americansm, given their hisotry in this country, do not like the term Black. Now JG ask why use "white" then- well, one mighty big difference-- African slaves werte classified by OTHERS as black: "white" was created by the very people we describe as white to separate them from "blacks" An Irishman might not be an Englishman, but at least they are all "white", as opposed to them Negros. An Italian might not be british, but at least he is "white", and not some negro... Black came first, and then "whites" came to describe themselves with that monicker as a sign of what they were not.
"blacks" decided to use this term African-American, probalby becuase your average slave decendent did not have the luxury of ebing able to trace exactly what piece of the African shores their decendents were taken from. All other immigrant groups came by choice, so they do have the luxury.
As for the "white" African-American..is a Colombian an American? He is form the Americas, undeniably..so is an Argentine, an ecudadorian, a Brazilian, heck, Fidel Castro is an American-after all, Cuba is part of the Americas.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:32
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Che: Sure, I agree. Be proud of it if you want, but accept that others will want to be proud of theirs. I don't see a white power t-shirt any differently from a black-power t-shirt, and I don't see black people as any differently from white people. However, I don't use the term African-American, because I don't know if they're African, or even if they're American. If I want to say someone's skin is black, I'll say it's black, the same way if I wanted to say someone's hair is blonde I'll say blonde.
I was affirming the point about national pride. If someone is an American they are an American. They may be black, white or asian in skin colour, but that doesn't change the fact that they are an American.
To me, someone's ethnic origin is not important. I think the term African American implies that all black people are African, and highlights that fact. Quite frankly, I don't care where they come from. If I am refering to someone's ethnic origin, then I will use African American. However when I am talking about soemone who has black skin, then I'll use black. For instance, if I was pointing someone out in the street, I don't know where his ancesters came from, but I do know he has black skin, which is a distinguising feature, the same as if it was a white person. If I'm trying to refer to a person with white skin, I don't call them Europeans, I call them a white person. If I see someone with blonde hair, I don't call them Scandanavian (because many blonde people's ancesters came from there) I use the term, blonde.
Be proud of your ethnicity. However when I talk about a person's skin colour, I'll use a colour to differentiate, if I needed to point out a person, for example. To me, the ethnic origin of a person doesn't matter in the slightest, and since I do not know the origin of someone I haven't met, I can't refer to it. An American is an American, a Brit is a Brit, the colour of their skin doesn't make a difference in their nationality.
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Tripledoc
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quote:
Originally posted by Elok
Whose DL is TripleDoc, BTW? I haven't been here long enough to make a good guess. Black people took inspiration from Eminem, Farrakhan is one of the best speakers of all time...who acts that blandly and unabashedly daft? |
This is the second time I have been accused of being a DL. Well I am truly sorry that I don't conform to your CIA/Mossad culture but please refrain from ad hominem attacks and adress the issues.
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