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	31-03-2004 16:19									#423
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975 BC sent trough my super corrupt cities

ADG, are you still using 1.00 version, is that why we have so much corruption ?

Was just playing a quick single player (v.1.15) with same settings as this game, and did have far less corruption

	31-03-2004 16:46									#424
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No, I'm using 1.15

	31-03-2004 21:45									#425
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Did you use a Tiny map? Also, your capital is on a peninsula here, so distance corruption is going to be worse than normal.

The game was started by Octavian X with version 1.12, which also had a different corruption formula (and I'm still using). I've had players at 'poly tell me corruption is calculated each turn by the individual's PC, but it wasn't alexman so that could easily be wrong. ;-)

975 to Port

	31-03-2004 22:14									#426
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Everybody do the patch! Uh-huh.

	01-04-2004 08:04									#427
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	01-04-2004 16:40									#428
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But still with the old patch... Still got problems with that cd-thingy, so I guess I have to wait to update until I find "some other way"


I'm sorry that this might delay it a little... just can't afford a net drive at the moment

	01-04-2004 17:25									#429
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We'll just have to use 1.15 awhile then.

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	02-04-2004 10:02									#430
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i had to patch because of other games patching and i dont feel like dealing with a 2 version set up thing, afraid i will get confused. i will agree to let a replacement who is still using 1.15 play my turns in the meantime, please have that person contact me so i can give a few instructions. sorry for the inconvenience and hope this does not reflect poorly upon my standing in this game or in the eyes of the fellow players here.

	02-04-2004 10:24									#431
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Well, I'm not too inclined to uninstall and redo everything with a dual install. How about we wait a couple days to see how the 1.20 fiasco plays out?

ADG, is this a matter of reinstalling a no-CD crack on your PC, or further problems specific to 1.20?

	02-04-2004 14:27									#432
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It's just that I haven't been able to find a no-cd crack...

I had this same problem with almost all Civ versions (And yes, I do have the original cd in the drive)

	02-04-2004 15:22									#433
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quote: Originally posted by ADG It's just that I haven't been able to find a no-cd crack... I had this same problem with almost all Civ versions (And yes, I do have the original cd in the drive)

I too had such CD problems with earlier versions of PtW, it was really annoying. I too had always the original copy. Gladly not had those with C3C -knock knock-

Try mailing firaxis support to get no-cd for 1.20 if no friendly person hasnt published one yet. The address was somewhere there

I too try to keep an eye out if i see such thing released in some forums.

	03-04-2004 13:58									#434
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http://apolyton.net/civ3/

http://apolyton.net/civ3/files/patc...sv122update.exe

Cumulative patch 1.22 has been released. Try if you can get the CD working in that one, ADG ?

	03-04-2004 15:05									#435
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Still the same

But I've seen they have released a 'Fixed exe' patch to 1.20... haven't tried it yet... what problems where the in the initial 1.20?

	04-04-2004 02:29									#436
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why dont you guys get a replacement and continue this game without me until you do decide to patch? just ask for a temp replacement, i dont want to hold up the game over something trivial like this, surgery, hospital stays, short trips out of town are one thing, but this is just a stupid delay IMHO.

	04-04-2004 05:40									#437
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I haven't kept an eye on the other games... how much have they played? Are they getting ahead of us?

	04-04-2004 12:25									#438
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quote: Originally posted by ADG But I've seen they have released a 'Fixed exe' patch to 1.20... haven't tried it yet... what problems where the in the initial 1.20?

Nothing too bad in PBEM. I think we could use 1.20 if predesad hasnt already upgraded to 1.22 ? (hm BtW, are 1.20 and 1.22 saves compatible both ways - note to self - go and check)

MP games had problems loading, thats why the quick fix. Sure, there are some small glitches it PBEM too, but nothing severe.

So, if you could get 1.20 working, ADG, i think we could get the game rolling again

quote: Originally posted by ADG I haven't kept an eye on the other games... how much have they played? Are they getting ahead of us?

I checked few days ago, and nope, closest ones were somewhere around 1500 BC. So we are not the ones lagging back

	04-04-2004 12:46									#439
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1.20 and 1.22 PBEM saves are compatible both ways

I loaded 1.20 started PBEM game in 1.22, saved the turn and continued in 1.20. No problems.

So - if ADG gets 1.20 working, we can continue the game even others would use 1.22 (or 1.20, no matter )

/edit: wrong information here. read http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...113#post2869113

Last edited by Conqueror on 04-04-2004 at 13:35

	04-04-2004 12:57									#440
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HM.

Now i tested again, and loading failed with data error

So, i cant be sure about the compatibility of 120 and 122

Going to test some more.

/edit: wrong information here. read http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...113#post2869113

Last edited by Conqueror on 04-04-2004 at 13:34

	04-04-2004 13:20									#441
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More testing seems to reveal that games started with 1.20 dont load on 1.22 at all

But, old games that are started in earlier versions, load ok in 1.22. You can even switch back and forth 1.20/1.22 with these games.

So, we should be safe to use either 1.20 or 1.22 in this game because of its started before 1.20.

/edit: wrong information here, read http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...113#post2869113

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	04-04-2004 13:24									#442
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C3C 1.20 Bug Thread , page 2

Alexmans post explaining the issue

Seems like its the mod thats causing this. Damn, shoud read more and test less on my own. But still, we should be safe in this game either way. Tried to load my latest turn with 1.22 and no problem.

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	04-04-2004 22:44									#443
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quote: Originally posted by ADG But I've seen they have released a 'Fixed exe' patch to 1.20...

Ha - i'm spamming this thread again

If ADG has fixed exe, what are we waiting for - christmas (old joke, i know )

Send the game forward

	05-04-2004 00:00									#444
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The fix ADG is referring to (1.22) is primarily for the online MP problems. ADG's CD bug is probably not significant enough to register on Firaxis's RADAR. How long did it take for the no-CD crack for 1.15 to appear? Was it from a third party?

	05-04-2004 00:03									#445
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quote: Originally posted by ADG I haven't kept an eye on the other games... how much have they played? Are they getting ahead of us?

I think one other game (#3?) has a chance of passing us up soon. With game #5, I think we can wait around for the summer patch from Firaxis and still stay ahead of them.

	05-04-2004 12:12									#446
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D The fix ADG is referring to (1.22) is primarily for the online MP problems. ADG's CD bug is probably not significant enough to register on Firaxis's RADAR. How long did it take for the no-CD crack for 1.15 to appear? Was it from a third party?

Aha I tought he was referring to no-cd. They are sometimes referred as 'fixed exe'

No-CD's came pretty fast back in PtW days when i had similar CD problems with the first versions of PtW. It took only few days, a week max to find one with edonkey, imesh or such program.

Propably less demand for C3C ones, or then its harder to make one - dont know.

	05-04-2004 16:50									#447
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I have to get a temp replacement for all my PBEM games

My power-supply 'burned' my graphics card yesterday, and I just got a different computer, though at the moment it can only surf the web... I can't even get into WinXP, so I'm using Win Me at the moment
I have no idea when (if) I get my normal computer up 'n' running again, but I doubt it'll be within a week

I'll create a "search for temp replacement thread" soon...

	05-04-2004 16:51									#448
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Or wait... did we agree that if we only needed a temp replacement, then Oct X would take over? Right?

	06-04-2004 10:52									#449
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Or wait... did we agree that if we only needed a temp replacement, then Oct X would take over? Right?

I'm offering to set up the second tournament like this, but I don't believe we said anything like that for this one. Considering how long it takes him to make a map, I'd say its a long shot, but you can always ask...

Conq and pred, are you both set to go with 1.22 if we find a sub? I've read a few comments about old saves not working under 1.22, but I can't tell if this is just a game of Chinese telephone or a serious problem.

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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Conq and pred, are you both set to go with 1.22 if we find a sub? I've read a few comments about old saves not working under 1.22, but I can't tell if this is just a game of Chinese telephone or a serious problem.

Yaeh, set up and ready.

There really is a problem with old games and 1.22, but it should not bother our game. Atleast i managed to load my turn properly in 1.22.

So, we are quite ready, if sub is found, i imagine. I even managed to found no-cd patch for ADG, but unfortunately his computer broke If anyone is in need for one, PM me.