02-02-2004 19:04									#121
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Hot'n'heavy action continues.
The speed of this game alone makes it an outstanding success.
Kudos to SG [1]...

	02-02-2004 20:14									#122
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette You are perfectly right ... but it was such fun to celebrate at 10% lux (I had in mind our friend Jrabbit setting lux at 70% in another game in order to celebrate, and that pleased me mightily ).

Well you showed him!!

Monk

	02-02-2004 20:34									#123
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In general, I think a lot has been left on the table, so to speak, by not providing for more cities to grow thru celebrations. There is an opportunity cost in lost shields and food from being in Republic and with just a little more attention to the details of Lux levels, worker placement, and white goods, many more cities could have been We Loved larger.

But, as I am reminded, it's just a game.

Monk

	02-02-2004 23:45									#124
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Well, Bloody Monk, are you up for eight turns to show us the way?

	02-02-2004 23:51									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin this my firs treal attempt at a succesion game, did do one a long time ago, but that was sort of a fun one

Whereas this game is a..... not fun one?

	03-02-2004 05:17									#126
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Well, actually, I tried to pay attention to WLTC days, and had lux at 50-60 for several turns, but it seemed that diminishing returns set in (I ran out of money for white goods when the persian demand was filled).

My recommendation for the next leader is SoL, fundy, and conquer, starting with the Sioux, or perhaps the fat Persian cities.

	03-02-2004 06:46									#127
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You are probably right with that recommendation, Grigor, especially as RR is coming on line next. That will kill the Gardens and make celebrating much more expensive.

I have had a particularly "bad" day and I am not confident I can play a turnset soon. If someone else wants to jump in, please do so. The practice of "calling" a window of time to get the turns in seems to be working out well. So, call the ball.

Monk

	03-02-2004 10:49									#128
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whos up next ???

	04-02-2004 00:04									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin whos up next ???

SG[1] -- busy with RL, or

JRabbit -- busy with other Sxn Games, or

Bloody Monk -- suffering for the sake of civ, or

A Fresh Face...Didn't I see Zedd post a query about this game early on?

	04-02-2004 03:17									#130
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Generally I am not quick enough to post a save in time however will DL and play tonight, Post tomorrow am.
If anyone can jump in before then feel free

	04-02-2004 03:28									#131
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Go4it, Zedd!

	04-02-2004 18:17									#132
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	04-02-2004 19:11									#133
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There are several cities building improvements that have already been built
The ship chain to the Persians is not in bad shape, and the road to the Sioux will be completed quickly. I think we need to grow our cities and prepare for a fundy assault on our good neighbors.

1680
Rush some white goods, move some workers play with tax rate, and accidentally hit the enter key before moving the vans in to build SOL

1690
2 dye vans to Pasagadae, 168G & 308G
Move vans into central city and leave last 23 shields up to the city.

1700
Rail Road > Leadership, from Atomic theory, banking, and theology
HG is cancelled and disorder abounds in the nation. Adjust taxes for change.
Build SOL > Darwin
Sioux sneak attack Legion vs. road building engineer, he dies but completes the road first.

1710
Sidon Point founded along the boat chain to aid unhappiness caused when¡K

1720
REVOLUTION DEMOCRACY celebrate 6 cities at 60% Lux
Several more around central city could celebrate if there were any surplus food.

1730
DARWIN > Leadership >electricity f or refrigeration > Conscription for tactics
The other choices were atomic theory, and banking each time.
Persians want 200G - No - Cease fire - Peace.
Sioux are key civ but refuse to talk and attack fortified Musket with legion.

1740
Build and move

1750
Pop = 7,000,000 Celebrations stop and taxes are readjusted to 2.2.6 164G and 3 turns
Celts demand gunpowder, I refuse, they sign a cease fire.
Pop 2 huts for 50G each

1752
Sioux want cease fire > OK
Finish building some white goods and vans

1754
Build vans and Rush some white goods.

1756
CONSCRIPTION and choose REFRIGERATION, tactics not offered.
Celebration in 4 Monk

I end these turns feeling like I have accomplished......NOTHING
There is a good railroad in progress and several cities are getting irrigation on the grasses. I couldn't get the cities to grow so I used the celebrations to get engineers without dropping city size. Central city is working on the awful tower because I didn't know what else to do with it. The tech choices are also poor due to the banking and theology techs that keep popping up but other civs (Celts and Persians) have them and a couple dips can take care of that when ready to begin the war machine.

Looking forward to my trip to the institute

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	04-02-2004 19:48									#134
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2 WoWs = WOW!!

My only quick-take RCC...
Whenever tempted to start a WoW, just say CAMEL!

	04-02-2004 19:52									#135
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Not eligible -- La Fayette, Grigor, Old n Slow, Zedd.

Anyone else can lay claim to the reins...

	04-02-2004 20:24									#136
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Usually Camels are a good build, but Central City produces over 33 shields, so camel building is wasteful. That was my thinking, at least, although I built a lot of camels in 2 wasteful turns anyway.

	04-02-2004 20:36									#137
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Usually Camels are a good build, but Central City produces over 33 shields, so camel building is wasteful. That was my thinking, at least, although I built a lot of camels in 2 wasteful turns anyway.

	04-02-2004 21:41									#138
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If Rasputin plays, then LaFayette can go and then I can do something after I get cleaned up from my planned Dirty activity tonight...

	04-02-2004 23:46									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Old n Slow ...my planned Dirty activity tonight...

You may wish to spare us the details; this forum has standards of decorum, you know!

	04-02-2004 23:56									#140
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* Sparrowhawk is rotflmao ....thanks Old'n'Slow and Jrabbit.....now I can go back to work in a good mood!

	05-02-2004 07:52									#141
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1756 Start... hmmm here we go again

1758
Razs Holiday Temple - Market palce
Barking Mad Coal
Sending ship with camels to Babylon
Copper arives in Flash 12g

1760
Eiffel Built rushed with camels
Central changed to granary
Cardiff Bribed from Barbarians Building a temple
Gomes Detryoer built - changing to Aquaduct

1762
Hillfort Temple - Barracks
Researching Fundy now
Celts and Babs sign pact against us !!!!!!

1764
East Canal{/b] Temple - Marketplace
[b]Monkwine Coal - Library
Central Granary - temple
Rapid Buff Rifleman - Temple

1766
Not much

1768
Monksilk Coal
Central Temple - Colluseum
Cardiff Temple - Marketplace

1770
Quickcoal Coal - Reifleman
North Zoom Gems
Barking mad Silver - Grnaary
Researching Tactics
Oil Fields Built
Coal arrives in Eaxt Canal 27g
Silver arrives Monk silk[/b[ 35g
[b]Fishery Built

1772
Island Resort Built
Hillfort Barraks - Rifleman
Coal arrives in East Canal 17g

Persians attack !!!!!!

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	05-02-2004 07:54									#142
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Did a fair bit of attacking the Carths with my destroyers and basically jsut protecting out outpost over near them.

landed some rifleman for extra defence too

	05-02-2004 13:30									#143
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I'm sorry, but surely I did not see the voluntary creation of The Awful Tower, did I? I did!

Ras to The Institute!

	05-02-2004 14:31									#144
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I was amazed by that too, but am still not sure who is to be sent to the Institute.

quote: Originally posted by Zedd Central city is working on the awful tower because I didn't know what else to do with it.

quote: Originally posted by Rasputin Eiffel Built rushed with camels.

I'm not sure if Zedd should receive the RCC here for actually starting the Tower, and not just churning out caravans or units to re-home, or if Rasputin is to blame for actually rushing it with camels, rather than waiting for a more worthwhile wonder.

	05-02-2004 17:01									#145
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Send them both
They will be able toadmire the tower together between the courses.

	05-02-2004 19:19									#146
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I have volunteered to spend some time at the Institute

However, to clarify, there were MANY camels made and in produtction so building any wonder should not have been a problem, however by building a camel in central city you waste 18 shields every other turn, therefore I felt it best if the cities set up as camel producers did thier job, and central got a head start on the next WOW. Unfortunately the tower was the only WOW available at the time.

	05-02-2004 19:25									#147
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In your defense:

1) It gets you bonus points at the end of the game.

2) Er........

	05-02-2004 22:10									#148
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Spies! Destroyers! SOMEthing worthwhile!

And did I read correctly, that Raz delivered a caravan for 12 gold? Twelve!?!?!? Why bother? Surely it would have been better to save all the camels until they could turn into wonders or get to worthwhile delivery spots?

(I've been lurking here, waiting for an opportunity to jump in, but haven't had time yet.)

	05-02-2004 23:56									#149
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette They will be able to admire the tower together between the courses.

So the Institute is in Paris? I thought it was on St Helena or somewhere remote...

quote: Originally posted by debeest Spies! Destroyers! SOMEthing worthwhile!

Dont think they have Espionage yet - they were working on Tactics. Diplomats might be useful, though, and the city is making 33s.

	06-02-2004 03:24									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd 2 dye vans to Pasagadae, 168G & 308G ...

And so I built a boat chain...foreign trade...hint, hint, hint.