17-02-2004 14:52									#1
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I have just finished upgrading the apolyton tile file to fix the ctp2 underwater graphic bugs.

gtset555.zip

gtset565.zip

At the moment I need play testes to check it .

Right down to the task I want to propose we use the source code to generate other underwater features onto a ctp2 random map.

I had the idea for

• Lava rifts
• underwater mountain chains
• Deeper pockets of water

There was some opposition so I decided to have a poll
Please add your vote

	17-02-2004 15:51									#2
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As you haven't voted yet, I go first and I am for it

Makes sea cities maybe worthwhile again

	17-02-2004 15:56									#3
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Right i have voted

	17-02-2004 15:59									#4
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I am thinking of starting lava rifts soon!!!!

do you think lava rifts should be able to connect with normal rifts.

	17-02-2004 16:05									#5
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Why not?

There isn't so much difference really. Even in nature it is chaotic. best example the rift in the Atlantic. You have volcanic next to normal rifts as well as lava-rifts............

	17-02-2004 16:08									#6
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that’s going be the tile rule from hell then but what the hell

	17-02-2004 16:10									#7
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Just to 'simplify' it maybe a bit:

rift next to rift, Yes
rift next to lava, Yes
rift next to Volcana, No
Lava next to Volcana, Yes.

Could look nice

	17-02-2004 16:55									#8
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where has lava come from

	17-02-2004 17:01									#9
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc where has lava come from

I guess you wanted to say Where lava has come from ?

And vulcanos shall be also available on their own.

For the rifts:

rift-lava-rift again a valid combination, I would suggest.
Same goes for rift-rift.

	17-02-2004 17:48									#10
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You meant lava rift. lets in future call this volcanic ridge

	17-02-2004 17:59									#11
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Actually I was using:

rift for normal rifts
lava for lava filled rifts
and Vulcano for Vulcano.

But ridge would be OK for me as well, although I don't know the difference.

	17-02-2004 18:53									#12
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I just look it up on the thesaurus for you hares a few words that mean the same hope fully you can get a clue from them.

ridge = crest = Rim

rift = hole= Crevice = Fissure

	17-02-2004 18:57									#13
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Little bit OT:

But I thought rift and fissue would have been different and rift and ridge more or less the same time to do some more reading

Back on topic (OT :hmmm:

You understood anyway my idea?

	17-02-2004 20:08									#14
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yes if a rift is at the side of a volcano turn it to volcanic rift easy done.

	17-02-2004 20:24									#15
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Will it also work with random map? I have no idea how it is implemented. And I think we still have problems with the map generation.

	17-02-2004 20:56									#16
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we wait till some on "volunteers” to look it over then sneak in our code on the side. it's just a copy of the ridge code but directed to use out lava rift.

	18-02-2004 00:42									#17
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I voted against my conscious and choose a but c was tempting allthough i dont think like banana milk shakes though. Now if you woulda said fill the sea with crates of bananas then well that would be a different story alltogether.

	18-02-2004 01:32									#18
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I would prefer to see Big Mc's efforts go towards making more unit sprites or converting civ3 ones. Comparitively, the sea tiles are a minor issue. But he can do what he wants

	18-02-2004 04:27									#19
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new units

I only enjoy making mechs.

	18-02-2004 13:30									#20
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new units ?

I think first we have to tech the AI to use the existing ones.........

Although wouldn't mind to have more choices

	18-02-2004 14:45									#21
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I voted yes as new variations to the tileset is, in the longer term, a good thing.
Still maybe we need a poll to see if The Big Mc should work on this or new sprites just joking!

what would the in-game advantages of these new underwater tiles be? better resources?(in which case we will need to let the AI know how to use them) or just for decoration?

	18-02-2004 15:48									#22
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I voted yes as new variations to the tileset is, in the longer term, a good thing. Still maybe we need a poll to see if The Big Mc should work on this or new sprites just joking!

You cover my expenses and you can boss me about

quote: Originally posted by child of Thor what would the in-game advantages of these new underwater tiles be? better resources?(in which case we will need to let the AI know how to use them) or just for decoration?

A little from column A and a little from Coolum B

	18-02-2004 16:15									#23
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc You cover my expenses and you can boss me about

Hey - i'll never boss you around, you have the power of the CTP Mech behind your words

quote: A little from column A and a little from Coolum B

Ok - have i missed a thread on the details that this might include, or will that come later?

I guess alot of the deep sea benefits will come very late in the game.........

	18-02-2004 16:56									#24
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There was a few thread 1
thread2

i have also noticed two more bugs i got to fix

quote: CTP Mech behind your

Which one I have plans for about 10 , then there’s the beta I want to re make and the units I could get from that

	18-02-2004 23:43									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Gilgamensch new units ? I think first we have to tech the AI to use the existing ones......... Although wouldn't mind to have more choices

Well i meant only the sprites for them. If making sprites has become alot easier than before i might try again.

	18-02-2004 23:50									#26
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quote: Well i meant only the sprites for them. If making sprites has become alot easier than before i might try again.

not really

I also did some concept art this should be how lava rifts connect to normal rifts

	19-02-2004 00:00									#27
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NIIIIICE

	19-02-2004 00:23									#28
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oh but it gets better

I have already created the basic tile rule and my back door into the tile file so when I finish the pics it’s a case of bang its done. Here is an in game to get you mouse finger taping.

	19-02-2004 00:33									#29
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Looks nice.

The only issue that I can see is that the lava isn't apparent in a couple of "bends". Is that not lava rift... or are lava rifts graphically identical to regular rifts, in this case?

If they are, that might be a problem for determining where to put a city.

	19-02-2004 00:39									#30
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MrBaggins

Its a preview there are only currently two tiles with lava in it I still got 20 tiles to go