04-03-2004 19:21									#91
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Can anybody see the line in this pic

	05-03-2004 04:51									#92
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Just updated the pic to the new one. I just fiddled ever so slightly with it in paint shop pro. What you can now do is start with the colour sample tool on the old tile (on the base colour in it) and move to the new with no change in colour

It is with no better words spot on

	05-03-2004 05:09									#93
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Looks like the same pic to me and i still see no line, playin' with our minds i tell ya

	05-03-2004 06:01									#94
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btw just like to say i agree with Maq's idea of using the CTP1 jungle and forest land AS well as the current ones, possibly renaming and slightly adjusting there attributes to a different kinda of forest and jungle that is currently in CTP2

I really think this is a good idea, adds variation and realism.......and fun

	05-03-2004 06:25									#95
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quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG btw just like to say i agree with Maq's idea of using the CTP1 jungle and forest land AS well as the current ones, possibly renaming and slightly adjusting there attributes to a different kinda of forest and jungle that is currently in CTP2 I really think this is a good idea, adds variation and realism.......and fun

We haven't come to terms with what various terrain types should ultimately be in... although I do tend to agree that this might be viable.

	05-03-2004 13:15									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Looks like the same pic to me and i still see no line, playin' with our minds i tell ya

It is different but nice to know you can’t see the join

	06-03-2004 04:04									#97
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look how damn cool the concept terrain was for CTP1

you can see that this was quite closely followed in the very! early beta screenshot, and then finally in the release of CTP1 hardly looked the same (except with some small exceptions like the forest) which was then changed again in CTP2

but i think for any new terrain this little college would be a great guide for new CTP2 terrain

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	06-03-2004 04:10									#98
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where did you get these pics form. Plus any chance of posting them in tga were possible.

	06-03-2004 15:48									#99
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Getting really close with the underwater hills

	08-03-2004 00:50									#100
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Update

this is an updated pic

Last edited by The Big Mc on 08-03-2004 at 02:29

	08-03-2004 01:22									#101
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wow those are damn nice big mc

u thought of underwater Hydrothermal vents ?
they are EXTREMELY rich in metals, but with current technology we are unable to effeciently mine them
they are just like underwater geysers

also (this is probably for another thread) i think offshore platforms should only be able to be built on under water oil/gas reserves
currently u can pick random areas of the sea and built and offshore platform, very unrealistic! and not very tactical

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	08-03-2004 01:32									#102
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why is it that everything look ten times better online

you are right however we do need a new kind of comers improvement for deep water

	08-03-2004 01:55									#103
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wahoooooooooooooooooooooooo

got the sucker

I forgot about the shallow borders it now looks so cool

	08-03-2004 06:41									#104
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I like them Big Mc, bbut i wouldnt have them on shallow water, they look better on only deep. If someone can get the deep and shallow vision to work like it did with CtP1 it would be good, so we dont see all these wonderful underwater details until we have the right tech to do so.

	08-03-2004 15:23									#105
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not bad for a mod of grasland hills then.

	08-03-2004 18:20									#106
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How'd you make it? you have a bump program or was this free hand?

	08-03-2004 20:48									#107
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I agree with Maq, it works best for deepsea. And it will only really work if we can indeed reinstate the hiding of underwater terrain by tech.

E,
It's based on regular hills, as The Big Mc stated in his post before yours.

	08-03-2004 20:50									#108
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I guess he just changed the pallete or guessed the color scheme..

	08-03-2004 21:41									#109
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I did it in Paint shop pros colour balancing feature

And to answer all of you the shallow hill will go in the finished altered tile file but will be shorted out in constants.txt so any moder can activate it again pretty easily.

	09-03-2004 03:12									#110
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quote: agree with Maq, it works best for deepsea. And it will only really work if we can indeed reinstate the hiding of underwater terrain by tech

i thought (REALLY HOPING) this was one of the first goals of the source code project anyway ??

P.S. I think irrigation should be a step before Farming

	09-03-2004 23:39									#111
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Big MC do you have a list of which TGAs are which terrain or you doing extraction one at a time? Do you know which ones are used and which arent?

	09-03-2004 23:54									#112
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errr the only tiles i intergrated into tile file so far are the lava rifts and trenches. boht are based on the numbering system for rifts.

	12-03-2004 00:52									#113
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I looked into dark smokers (Hydrothermal vents) today it appears that we can’t really model them in ctp this is because research has shown that a thermal vent is very small about two meters across but several times that in height. The graphic which would have to be made would be on the same size of a ctp1 tree which previous attempts have proven to look superimposed because of the size

	12-03-2004 03:27									#114
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yes but big mc, forests arent modeled as single trees are they

Hydrothermal vents are located close together
I had a webpage somewhere, but i would suggest google

They do also hold VAST amounts of precious metal which are being looked into now, for a way of mining them.
One of which i remember of interest is large amounts of the rare metal Cobalt (although i have no idea of what this metal is used for)

	12-03-2004 03:52									#115
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Maybe it'll be better as good (vents that is, and it could be animated!)

Another recommendation are those ore fields, there is a lot of alloys laying on the floor, just hard to go that deep to get them

	12-03-2004 04:13									#116
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The problem is that terrain that appears on ctp 2 is large if it’s over a mile across then it is in. as I have already pointed out I tried to get them graphically to work the over day but they came out as matches. If I made them bigger they would look like the volcanoes. So as you can see were stuck between rocks and a hard place.

	16-03-2004 18:39									#117
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Just finished a preview of underwater mountains. There the hardest terrain I have done because you have to make a negative before you can make the mountains. The image on screen is not finished as there is only one tile making the image not the many I really need

I will have another look into thermal vents but now I need a coder so volunteers please.

	16-03-2004 20:23									#118
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looking good again

im not sure how ur making the mountains but i assume your using the CTP2 land mountains as a base

An idea, use the CTP1 mountains too, to add variation (although i would like the see the CTP1 mountains implemented along with the current CTP2 mountains too)

	16-03-2004 21:07									#119
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At the moment I am using the desert mountains the idea is that really deep areas have the old ctp style mountain this copys the larger mountains found deep on the sea floor

I am still not sure how they look I think when there fully implemented they will look good

	16-03-2004 21:19									#120
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Did you remove the picture, can't see it anymore

But anyway: You might want to round a bit the top, for water it is to rough, me thinks.......