01-03-2004 04:30									#1
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Which is better(or worse)? Star Wars or Star Trek? and Why? I like both what do you guys think?

	01-03-2004 04:33									#2
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	01-03-2004 04:37									#4
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OH GOD! NOT THIS, NOT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, now that that's been said:

They are fundamentaly different experiences- Star Wars is a nice action series, and as action films they work.

Star Trek (at least the first series) was one of these 1960's sci fi series meant to make one think (like Twightlight Zone and Outer Limits)-after all, the first interracial kiss on TV happened on Star Trek. The first series was OK, the second Generation I think was the best- Deep Space Nine had its moments, Vogayer was poor from day one, and Enterprise is bland but not as bad as Vogayer.

As for the movies..well, some are at best OK.

	01-03-2004 04:41									#5
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Oh my god Jim, I'm a doctor, not a movie critic!

	01-03-2004 04:43									#6
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SW teh ownz.

On a more serious note, a single ISD could wipe out the entirity of the Milky Way Galaxy nationstates.

	01-03-2004 04:43									#7
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STAR WARS/TREK not the best SCI-FI. In fact the Battlestar Galacticca movie is better. So is Farscape. B5 all lower budget affairs with more depth.

Star Trek bland overall.
Star Wars long winded and childish

	01-03-2004 04:44									#8
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Farscape was outstanding. B5 was outstanding.

Battlestar Galactica?

" My eyes, the goggles, they do nothing!"

	01-03-2004 04:48									#9
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If there is one thing this world doesn't need, it's an "in-depth" report on which is better.

ACK!

	01-03-2004 04:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski If there is one thing this world doesn't need, it's an "in-depth" report on which is better. ACK!

Howabout an indepth report on Peewee's Playhouse and Fraggle Rock?

	01-03-2004 04:53									#11
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Star Trek.

That's as in-depth as it need be.

	01-03-2004 04:54									#12
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Both suck, but Star Trek is better.

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Star Wars.

Trek was once good, until it went communist.

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Howabout an indepth report on Peewee's Playhouse and Fraggle Rock?

Now you're talkin' !!!!

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	01-03-2004 04:59									#15
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There never was a star wars TV series, and TV series and movies do NOT compare well. I like both, though I would sit through a good episode of The Next Generation before rewatching a SW flick- specially the two new ones.

Still, as far as in depth Sci-Fi goes, I stick with B5 (and I can never get season 3 at Best Buy- I have season's 2 and 4, but 3 is the best.)

	01-03-2004 04:59									#16
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Star Trek has had some good moments: movies with Khan and The Borg Queen for instance. But the original three star wars( especially ESB) are classics..

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I think that the Star Trek movie with the Borgs was good, and some interesting points to make. Especially the scene were the female borg tries to seduce Data. Weird.

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quote: Still, as far as in depth Sci-Fi goes, I stick with B5

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Battlestar Galactica? " My eyes, the goggles, they do nothing!"

I admit I am partial to the Galactica movie but you must admit that it is better than STAR WARS. JAR JAR BINKS, those funny looking furry things, and exactly how does Anakin Skywalker get into the queen's panties that fast. I must have fell asleep. Anakin must have a way with words. "Hi, wanna play with my lightsaber? Let's get married?"

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This revulsion towards the amusing Jar Jar Binks is something I never understood. What exactly is wrong with him? I mean basicly he is modelled on Goofy, the Disney character.

I think also there is a little bit of xenophibia in there, since he speaks something which could vaguely be interpreted as Rastafarian.

Also he likes bufoonery, and behaves in an anti-authoritain manner. This does not mix well with the marine barracks humour most well adapted and socialized people tend to identify themselves with. The latter is the kind of humour that takes Freuds conclusion that humour is subliminated sadistic impulses to its logical extreme. In short Jar Jar Binks is every Marine sergants nightmare.

His total inablity to understand technical details of course also infuriates the modern consumer. So in a sense he is a bit anti-capitalistic.

From a feminist point of view it is also easy to see why Jar Jar Binks would infuriate males, but I won't get into that.

	01-03-2004 05:32									#21
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jar jar binks is the nightmare of anyone with taste.

	01-03-2004 05:32									#22
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The original Star Trek characters were so much fun to watch. And let's face it...Kirk would have sex with anything!

	01-03-2004 05:36									#23
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I like the Captain Kirk character. Really funny. You sense that he is a good man, but you don't understand how the crew can take him seriously.

	01-03-2004 05:38									#24
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO The original Star Trek characters were so much fun to watch. And let's face it...Kirk would have sex with anything!

Even Scotty?

	01-03-2004 05:39									#25
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Beam me up Scotty.Lol.

	01-03-2004 05:54									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Farscape was outstanding. B5 was outstanding. Battlestar Galactica? " My eyes, the goggles, they do nothing!"

B5 and Farscape are both examples of everything Star Trek should be, but is not.

jon.

	01-03-2004 05:58									#27
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What about Buck Rodgers? Now there was a Sci-Fi show!!! It was so good, they called Daffy Duck out of retirement to play in Duck Dodgers with Porky Pig in a cartoon remake. Look there if you want special effects and nuance in the plot line.

	01-03-2004 06:02									#28
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Star Wars was great until the prequels. I wonder why even the originals don't seem nearly as cool anymore?

	01-03-2004 06:11									#29
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No poll?

Original 3 Star Wars movies rocked. Entertaining sci-fi on an epic scale.

But yes, the new movies are craptacular, and threaten to undermine the mystique of the whole series.

However, Star Trek, which is also entertaining in its own right, has the putrid slop of several of the movies, plus most of The Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise. So neither series has escaped unscathed.

I'll stick with SW episodes 4-6, with 1960s ST coming in second.

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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Star Wars was great until the prequels. I wonder why even the originals don't seem nearly as cool anymore?

This is only true of RotJ for me, as it proved that the Ewoks, rather than being momentary bad judgment, were actually a sign of things to come and the permanent derangement of Lucas.