26-03-2004 13:12									#61
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oh.. so you say we should .. appease a terrorist?

	26-03-2004 13:13									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka oh.. so you say we should .. appease a terrorist?

Gadafi isn't a terrorist. He paid up for his misdeeds by supporting them (settlement giving to the families of Pan Am victims). You should learn how to stop repeating things like a little five year old.

	26-03-2004 13:15									#63
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So what you say is that you can pay your way out if you're a terrorist, and then you're not a terrorist anymore?

	26-03-2004 13:17									#64
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quote: I agree with you on that (except for maybe the killing part ). All I'm saying is that the army is the same way. In fact, I'd say that the Algerian gov't is one of the most oppressive in the world.

Well, I guess we have to agree to disagree, since I just have evidence of GIAs deeds, but I also count in the effect of the desired state each side wants to establish, not just the means. The dictatorship wants to establish an authoritarian state with existing, but limited personal freedoms. the GIA, well, you know.

	26-03-2004 13:17									#65
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SO that makes about.. 200 victims give or take.. and about 2 billion dollars was it? 200 x 15 is 3000 so 2 billion x 15 is 30 billion. If Bin Laden pays 30 billion, is he not a terrorist anymore if he waits around like 10 years and stops his attacks in the meanwhile?

	26-03-2004 13:18									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka So what you say is that you can pay your way out if you're a terrorist, and then you're not a terrorist anymore?

OMG. You are like a little 5 year old.. I mean get onto something new.

Did Gadafi direct the flying of planes into two buildings, you nescient immature kid?

	26-03-2004 13:19									#67
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Actually, since a settlement is reached on the West's terms, I hardly see this as anything like appeasement.

	26-03-2004 13:19									#68
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I'm not the one saying it's ok if you pay money for settlements, and you're not a terrorist anymore

	26-03-2004 13:21									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka I'm not the one saying it's ok if you pay money for settlements, and you're not a terrorist anymore

I am this close to hitting my head against the f**king wall. You are nothing but a little kid who keeps repeating the same exact line over and over again. Grow up.

	26-03-2004 13:23									#70
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Go ahead, hit your head to the wall. Because I will keep this up. I'm not the one who thinks Gadaffi is ok now and has reached a closure what happened.
You're the one who suggests we should bribe him for being so kind to offer information on his terrorist buddies. I'm the one who says he should give it for free or else he should be considered as an active enemy once again. I'm not the one offering to sleep in the same bed with the enemy..

	26-03-2004 13:25									#71
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This wasn't done on Gadafi terms, you nescient little brat. Remember that boat that was seized? Well that made him come to the terms of what the west was offering. He isn't being bribed. He is going to give this information because if he doesn't he will get invaded. Simple as that. And you better watch who the f**k you are leveling accusations against.

	26-03-2004 13:27									#72
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is that a threat? I'm coming to States soon. If you are threatning me, I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and meet me one on one.

	26-03-2004 13:27									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka is that a threat? I'm coming to States soon. If you are threatning me, I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and meet me one on one.

I could have you behind bars like that. Don't even try that **** with me.

	26-03-2004 13:29									#74
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The Russo-Finnish alliance will easy defeat Spain.

	26-03-2004 13:29									#75
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Behind bars for what? Having valid points? Like I said if you are not threatning me, I have no problem. If you are, quit being such a huge ***** and walk the walk.

edit: I'm not threatning you. I'm not going to come after you or harrash you. But if you want to, we can dance. It's up to you.

	26-03-2004 13:30									#76
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Is someone having fun with both your log ins?

	26-03-2004 13:30									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Behind bars for what? Having valid points? Like I said if you are not threatning me, I have no problem. If you are, quit being such a huge ***** and walk the walk.

Using any physical force against me will get you behind bars. Valid points? You only have managed to spew the same old ****ing thing over and over again like a damn baby.

Tass, oh go screw a tree.

	26-03-2004 13:35									#78
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I haven't said I would use physical force against you. I'm offering you an opportunity of a lifetime to kick Polytoners butt here. If you don't want to, it's ok.

But if you keep going with the personal insults, I suggest you cool down with them because you can't back it up. I don't like that you insult me. I'm sorry if I came on in a way that seemed threatning. It wasn't my intent. I just figured since you throw all these insults me, most unanswered by my side, that you want to hit my head against the wall instead of your own, so I thought to give you that chance being the fair man I am. Listen buddy, I'm not insulting you and most of the arguments you have taken as insults because you disagree with me. But they are not personal insults against you. So it would be a lot nicer to continue debating this interesting topic without all the insults. Agreed?

	26-03-2004 13:37									#79
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Say something different. Make another point. I don't like it when people repeat the same thing over and over again. That's why I don't like CNN. But that's not the point... grow up and get a damn clue. Some people just can't stand it when you repeat the same thing over and over again. Come up with something original. So no I don't agree.

	26-03-2004 13:39									#80
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I have to say that I agree with Giancarlo (!). Why not give Quadaffi another chance if it seems like he has changed his ways? That is the only just thing to do, IMO.

	26-03-2004 13:39									#81
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No I guess you agreed because you didn't throw any personal insults at me. Let's continue that way.

I think the problem here is that we see it differently when it comes to dealing with Gadaffi. I see it as bribing, where you see it as dealing with the guy.

	26-03-2004 13:40									#82
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monkspider, and I'm saying he should have the chance to tell what he knows. I'm just saying let's not hang medals on his chest for it.

	26-03-2004 13:58									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka No I guess you agreed because you didn't throw any personal insults at me. Let's continue that way. I think the problem here is that we see it differently when it comes to dealing with Gadaffi. I see it as bribing, where you see it as dealing with the guy.

You obviously know nothing about international relations as it is.

	26-03-2004 14:01									#84
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Well then try to just not go crazy for me asking again the same thing once again:

Can a terrorist pay money, you can call it settlement, or blood money or what not, and if he agrees to pay, he's not a terrorist anymore? Simple Yes or No will do.

	26-03-2004 14:02									#85
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Shut up. Don't level such stupid accusations against me. I'd take personal pleasure in shooting Bin Laden in the head. There is no pay back for what he did.

	26-03-2004 14:05									#86
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I didn't throw any accusations at you. I asked your opinion, yes or no. I wouldn't think for a second that if you had the opportunity to shoot Bin Laden that it would be a problem. I'm sure half the world would do the same.

	26-03-2004 14:08									#87
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I know what the problem is. You know the following questions to both answers and you know that what you say would then sounds pretty .. well stupid.

edit: I wonder how a stupid poster who knows nothing about nothing could get you into that situation, where both answers are wrong. Hmmm..

	26-03-2004 14:28									#88
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No what you say is stupid because you don't think properly. You are nothing more than a baby, a child. Yes, no, maybe so. I want to see what Gadafi does. I am not planting medals on him, saying he should get the noble peace prize, but he should be given a chance and if he is worth the time fine. If he isn't, I'd prefer using military action.

	26-03-2004 14:43									#89
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Giancarlo, well that's not so far what I suggested. Hear him out, not offering any prizes for doing it and if he won't bring the goods to the table then, he should be toast.

	26-03-2004 14:49									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Giancarlo, well that's not so far what I suggested. Hear him out, not offering any prizes for doing it and if he won't bring the goods to the table then, he should be toast.

So why did you go and attack me for something I never said?