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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Avatars of the SS are cause for outrage, but avatars of Stalin and the the communist party are not?


Bingo. I'm very outraged that some people find Stalin a good guy here... it is sickening..

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And yet you aren't outraged that you people find fvcking Hitler a "good guy"?!

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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And yet you aren't outraged that you people find fvcking Hitler a "good guy"?!


I don't think Hitler is a good guy at all. But propaganda from different time periods is interesting to look at and see what captured an entire nation by storm.

Please do not try to twist my words or beliefs. I ****ing hate imbeciles who try that.

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So why don't you think Communist propaganda from a different time period is " interesting to look at and see what captured an entire nation by storm"?

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It would probably be worse than that.

While I'm sure my thinking could never make its way to the White House, or even DC, here's something to ponder: Why should the US ever launch a retaliatory nuke strike? Nukes are wrong, and the US is all about being right. And two wrongs--the first strike and the retaliation strike--don't make a right. We shouldn't lower ourselves to our attackers' level...if they survive because we didn't strike back, then so what? We retained moral superiority, and they now have a broken, twisted world to inherit.


I think I have to agree.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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quote:
Originally posted by Kucinich
So why don't you think Communist propaganda from a different time period is " interesting to look at and see what captured an entire nation by storm"?


Oh it is. I just see a lot of glorification of Lenin and Stalin around here. I do not go around posting faces of Hitler. My avatar is just propaganda.

The Vagabond is offline The Vagabond
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What I find instructive about the story is that it underscores the fact that the Soviet Union was fighting alone against most of the world. The US, Britain, France and China -- all the other nuclear powers fought against the USSR.

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Agathon is offline Agathon
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So, I get banned for posting a (rather good IMHO) piccy of Fez as Hitler and he complains bitterly that he wants nothing to do with Nazis and I am evil for suggesting it.

Then he decides to engage in Nazi chic with that avatar.

What a phony.

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quote:
Originally posted by Agathon
So, I get banned for posting a (rather good IMHO) piccy of Fez as Hitler and he complains bitterly that he wants nothing to do with Nazis and I am evil for suggesting it.

Then he decides to engage in Nazi chic with that avatar.

What a phony.


You got banned for being a jerk about something and not deleting it because I do not wish to kill jews. Jews are good people. I am just recognizing rather unique and interesting propaganda from a period of horror. You engage in a smear campaign to depict me as a nazi, when I clearly am not one. You are the phony.

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Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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What I find instructive about the story is that it underscores the fact that the Soviet Union was fighting alone against most of the world. The US, Britain, France and China -- all the other nuclear powers fought against the USSR.


And none of those nuclear powers had numbers of warheads approaching even a small fraction of either the USSR or the USA.

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to the Fezstapo.

to the Waffen Fez Fez.

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You got banned for being a jerk about something and not deleting it because I do not wish to kill jews. Jews are good people. I am just recognizing rather unique and interesting propaganda from a period of horror. You engage in a smear campaign to depict me as a nazi, when I clearly am not one. You are the phony.


So the best way to express one's admiration for Jews is a Waffen SS avatar.

Would any of Apolyton's Jews like to comment?

Down the with Fezstapo!!!!

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Waffen SS avatar = Jew hating baby killing genocidal terrorist

Stalin/Communist Party avatar = Righteous dissident seeking utopia for all.

Hm...

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But I would laugh if someone put my face on Stalin's body.

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So the best way to express one's admiration for Jews is a Waffen SS avatar.

Would any of Apolyton's Jews like to comment?

Down the with Fezstapo!!!!


You communists killed jews too.

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I would indulge you on that one, but Ming wouldn't understand I'm joking and he'd ban me.
So....Jews
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I would indulge you on that one, but Ming wouldn't understand I'm joking and he'd ban me.
So....Jews
Fezstapo


I don't hate Jews. In fact Israel is a wonderful country that should exist no matter what the Palestinians say.

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I would indulge you on that one, but Ming wouldn't understand I'm joking and he'd ban me.
So....Jews
Fezstapo


In that case, I must insist you indulge him.

Sandman is offline Sandman
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The SS is the first group that hasn't been damaged by being associated with Fez. I think.

ErikM is offline ErikM
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Waffen SS avatar = Jew hating baby killing genocidal terrorist

Stalin/Communist Party avatar = Righteous dissident seeking utopia for all.

Yeah, that's basically right.
And Reagan avatar is simply tasteless.

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And none of those nuclear powers had numbers of warheads approaching even a small fraction of either the USSR or the USA.


Yes. But this just shows what an unequal fight it was for the USSR during the Cold War.

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You communists killed jews too.


I'll have to raise that one with the head commie in our department, who is Jewish.

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Fez, speaking as a guy whose Great-Grandparents knew hen to get the Hell out of Dodge, I'll tell you that that avatar is offensive. The Communist Avatar's are ofensive too, but the closest one I've seen to be memorializing a mass Murderer is Oswald's "Mario-Stalin", which is more silly than sincere.

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The SS is the first group that hasn't been damaged by being associated with Fez. I think.


Thanks

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I really hope you are not going to deny that Stalin and the Communist Party actively persecuted and killed Jews.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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I'll have to raise that one with the head commie in our department, who is Jewish.


Then recognize this:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/AS...2694287-3823235

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Fez, speaking as a guy whose Great-Grandparents knew hen to get the Hell out of Dodge, I'll tell you that that avatar is offensive. The Communist Avatar's are ofensive too, but the closest one I've seen to be memorializing a mass Murderer is Oswald's "Mario-Stalin", which is more silly than sincere.


Would you object to an avatar of the flag of the Third Reich? Specifically, a swastika?

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