07-04-2004 02:12									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Alex it seems that there will be a new patch (a *final* one, not a beta), but it has been delayed for quite some time yet, as is stated in the official civ3 site.

I can only say that whatever says on www.civ3.com is wrong, since site isn't updated when 1.22 arrived.

And 1.22 is the patch.
No beta.

The thing with official site is that a message there was posted 2 weeks ago.

And when they updated the page to fill about news in that machmaking voting they forgot to delete that old news.

	07-04-2004 04:47									#92
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I have a feeling that Player1 might be right...

	07-04-2004 06:08									#93
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Yes, agree with player1.....the civ3 site does tend to be slow in updating news, and given the speed at which patches seem to have been updated lately, the civ3 site cannot be trusted as a reliable source!

	07-04-2004 06:56									#94
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Now how can that be? ....the civ3 site not trusted as a reliable source?

I'll have you know it's as quiet as funeral around here. And besides this, this is BUG central; we flag em, tag em and send em back for repainting. What more can be asked of us?

excuse me while I go test something.

	07-04-2004 10:05									#95
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You're right about that 1984 bug, LordEd...very strange indeed. I thought it may have just been an easter egg, but I see no connection with the map generated and the world of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. Any word on that, Firaxis?

	09-04-2004 10:33									#96
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Before I download this thing is there anywhere to find a readme first? None on Civ3 site.

	09-04-2004 13:06									#97
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As one sage wizard to another trust me, Firaxis considers 'ReadMe' a relic of the past. This is a 'by guess by golly approach'! Like it? Some seem to, that's what strange...

	09-04-2004 20:04									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Avahz Darkwood Before I download this thing is there anywhere to find a readme first? None on Civ3 site.

You mean 1.22?

Go to www.firaxis.com

Click on downloads section and then to Conquests patch v1.22

Then you'll get a readme.

	09-04-2004 20:20									#99
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The Military Leader can not rush units or regular improvements but CAN rush Great Wonders for the human player. It can rush all things for the AI.

One save example

Note in this save you can not build an Army because the civ has less than 4 cities. You are however unable to rush any units. This is a default rules, RMG game.

The all knowing playtester Cheiftess ( of CFC) checked out the AI/Human capabilities of the Military leader

	10-04-2004 00:57									#100
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thanks player 1 I recon going to the "official" (civ3.com) site does not count for much these days =). Once again thanks for the heads up...

	10-04-2004 16:04									#101
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Hmm is this going to be used as the 1.22 bug thread since 1.20 was short lived?

	10-04-2004 20:30									#102
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quote: Originally posted by SewerStarFish The Military Leader can not rush units or regular improvements but CAN rush Great Wonders for the human player. It can rush all things for the AI. One save example Note in this save you can not build an Army because the civ has less than 4 cities. You are however unable to rush any units. This is a default rules, RMG game. The all knowing playtester Cheiftess ( of CFC) checked out the AI/Human capabilities of the Military leader

As far as my testing goes, Military leaders can rush buildings, improvements and small wonders (not units) as civilopedia says.

It's only important to get them by elite units.



But if, you put leaders in scenario, then they could only rush greater wonders (like sci leaders).

I haven't tested could they build armies in this case.

	10-04-2004 21:30									#103
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Correction:

Normal, elite unit generated leader can be used to build army, or rush improvements and small wonders.

But, leader put in scenario can build armies and rush small or great wonders (no units, nor improvements).

	11-04-2004 18:40									#104
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If you download the save, you will notice the leader can not rush units. This save is from a default rule randomly generated map normal game.

Perhaps of interest is that I got the leader from an elite unit but had less than 4 cities. It may be the inability to produce an army is preventing rushing. As you have noted there is an edit feature bug and this may be related.

I have played other normal games and have had no problem w/ ML (I did not test if they could fiinsh a Great Wonder) So I am inclined to think the problem is with the >4 cities.

	18-04-2004 22:26									#105
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In single-player 1.22 (and 1.20, for that matter,) the game is not recognizing any Conquests resources/luxuries as being acquired, even if my cities are built directly on top of them. The don't appear in a city's screen or the trade advisor's screen, and the people don't act as if they are receiving them. (I also don't get a pop-up saying "You've brought x resource into town. This will make the people happy.")

Pre-Conquests resources/luxuries still are being recognized.

	19-04-2004 00:01									#106
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As far as I know all conquest added luxuries (like tobacco or sugar) are bonus resouces and not luxuries.

	19-04-2004 00:08									#107
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Virago, that is because they are Bonus resources, not Luxuries. No Strategic or Luxury resources were added in Conquests. I am referring to the epic game; I am not familiar with the scenarios.

	19-04-2004 07:23									#108
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Thanks, Jaybe...I figured that out shortly after posting. I had simply never noticed it before.

	20-04-2004 14:52									#109
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I have found a problem.
I had a SP game which I started on 1.00, I installed 1.22 patch and continue playing the game with the patched version. All seemed to work fine... until Radio appeared.
In the same turn that Radio came as a tech available for researching, all my factories dissapeared. Poof! I rebuilt a few until I noticed something strange was going on.
Nice, isn't it?

	20-04-2004 16:53									#110
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Yeh, that's a new feature. The AI steals a tech...Industrialisation in your case....and you lose it

	28-04-2004 18:55									#111
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I've got a new one. The AI is able to rush with cavalry. I thought I was just seeing thing a few turns ago, but I wasn't. Bah.

	28-04-2004 20:05									#112
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I thought saves prior to 1.20 were not compatible. The 1.22 patch changed the tech tree for Radio, so who knows what that will do to your game.

	30-04-2004 23:15									#113
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1.20 games seem NOT to be compatable with 1.22. i tried to load one of my old hotseat games, which was from 1.2, AFTER i patched with 1.22, and i got all sorts of errors.

	03-05-2004 19:47									#114
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that sucks... so saves in 1.20 or earlier aren't compatible?

more Civ3 suckage

	03-05-2004 21:44									#115
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Like that anybody used 1.20 to have a saves...

	06-05-2004 11:44									#116
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It think it was mentioned that 1.20 saves are 100% incompatible with 1.22.

1.15 and earlier saves are somewhat compatible, depending on a few things- mainly radio...

	06-05-2004 18:51									#117
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Actually, neither are 1.20 saves comparible with 1.22

	18-07-2004 13:41									#118
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I registered today due to me coming across a really strange bug. I was playing the Inca, with the Regicide option (Regent level). The Iroqois came onto my island (large map) and started building cities. And I started building fortresses along the border while I got my military production going to boot them out.

One day, they built a city one square away from one of my fortresses and then demanded I withdraw my troops. I refused (of course) and went to war with them.

Many more turns passed and I got together enough troops to attack this city, which would be the first of many in reclaiming my island back. And I successfully overran the Iroqois city with a Medieval Infantryman. Because this city was built in a really bad place (on a hill surrounded by desert) which I didn't want in the first place, I opted to pillage and raze the city to the ground.

Then the game froze for about 30 seconds.

When it eventually unfroze, I discovered that *ALL* the Iroqois cities on my island and the few I had explored on a neighbouring island had been pillaged too!! The main game map showed all Iroqois cities [I knew about] as piles of rubble!

It seems the Iroqois civilisation had self destructed just because I decided to pillage one of their pathetic cities.

I sent a few units out to check whether they really were all now piles of rubble, and they were (but I hadn't explored their home island so don't know just how widespread this genocide was). Interestingly enough, there was a new size one city on my island in a spot where there was no city previously. It was named "Neodakheat".

Has anyone experienced a similar occurrence? This is Civ3 Conquests patched to 1.22.

	18-07-2004 13:44									#119
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Maybe you played Elimination mode instead of Regicide?

In Elimination mode, when one enemy city is defeated, whole civilization is destroyed (useful for quick MP games).

	18-07-2004 13:48									#120
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Damn, you're right. I must have selected Elimination by accident!

Ok then, not a bug!

Grrr.