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DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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Sep 1999
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Immigrants aren't able to vote.

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Only if you can somehow find a way to turn a Green Card into Citizenship within 6 months .

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I have to say that Kerry is screwing up a lot. Enough to where the race is still 50/50. He'd have to stop making careless mistakes to win.


"I actually vote for the 87 billion before I voted against it!"

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Damnit!

*cancels his application*

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Kerry worse than Bush? You bet

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Sep 2001
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Kerry's intelligent and actually had the balls to serve in a war as opposed to the current crop of neocon chickenhawks. So what if he gaffes a few; it's better than the scum-sucking, Vampiric neo-Templars that are dismantling everything once sacred in this country brick by brick.

His only problem is he needs to start standing up to bush's attacks; eg the 50-cent gas tax bullshit, and expose him for what he is.

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Apr 2004
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His gaffes aren't a problem, But do you know where he stands on any issue? it isn't that he flipflops so much as he hasn't really stated anything specific. I do not count gay marriage, abortion, or any other side show issue here either.

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Feb 2004
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  Old Post 30-04-2004 01:54
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I'm still voting Kerry, I don't care how hopeless it is.

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I agree with MrFun;





In another thread, Cal expressed agreement with something I said. Is this the end of the world?

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  Old Post 30-04-2004 02:13
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I was wondering if I'd have a spot to plant this...

quote:
Mondo Washington
by James Ridgeway
John Kerry Must Go
Note to Democrats: it's not too late to draft someone—anyone—else
April 27th, 2004 11:45 AM

WASHINGTON, D.C.— With the air gushing out of John Kerry's balloon, it may be only a matter of time until political insiders in Washington face the dread reality that the junior senator from Massachusetts doesn't have what it takes to win and has got to go. As arrogant and out of it as the Democratic political establishment is, even these pols know the party's got to have someone to run against George Bush. They can't exactly expect the president to self-destruct into thin air.

With growing issues over his wealth (which makes fellow plutocrat Bush seem a charity case by comparison), the miasma over his medals and ribbons (or ribbons and medals), his uninspiring record in the Senate (yes war, no war), and wishy-washy efforts to mimic Bill Clinton's triangulation gimmickry (the protractor factor), Kerry sinks day by day. The pros all know that the candidate who starts each morning by having to explain himself is a goner.

What to do? Look for the Dem biggies, whoever they are these days, to sit down with the rich and arrogant presumptive nominee and try to persuade him to take a hike. Then they can return to business as usual—resurrecting John Edwards, who is still hanging around, or staging an open convention in Boston, or both.

If things proceed as they are, the dim-bulb Dem leaders are going to be very sorry they screwed Howard Dean.



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Additional reporting: Alicia Ng and Phoebe St John


http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0417/mondo1.php

Thanks to Drdge for the link!

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Kerry needs more outspoken supporters like Bush has. That senator who spoke yesterday calling Cheney & Co "chickenhawks" was a good start, but it can't stop.

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I saw that... it was the Senator from New Jersey right?

I'd vote for that guy.

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Love to see TMM getting in touch with his far left side by bringing up something from the village voice.

ITS APRIL!! We have many many months to go, months of job reports, eocnomiv reports, casualty reports, new books, new scandals worthy and otherwise.

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It is not enough to merely state that there is a problem for Kerry, he really needs to give people a reason to get off of their fat lazy asses and vote for him, otherwise we see just the 1/2 and 1/2 stuff of people that vote on party lines only.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sava
I saw that... it was the Senator from New Jersey right?

I'd vote for that guy.


Lautenberg and speaking of which. The rightist conspiracy theorists are saying the oust Kerry movement is another Toricelli/Lautenberg manuever. Wherein the Dems have caused the Repubs to burn their warchest only to be bait and switched by bringing in a white knight challenger with no time or money to discredit him (ala Toricelli then Lautenberg at the 11th hour).

Regardless, McCain's response to Lautenberg I thought was the appropriate one.

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"I actually vote for the 87 billion before I voted against it!"



Yes, I loved that.

And HE doesn't own the SUVs, his FAMILY does. Duh!

kolpo is offline kolpo
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The only thing Kerry can save at this moment is an extreme good vice president or that Bush somehow self destructs. But it is very unlikely that Bush shall self destruct, his campain is so good at spin that even if he lost 50 troops/day he could use that to his advantage.

What really scares me is that Powell shall not do a second term, what hawk shall Bush use to replace Powel?

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If the Democrats had managed to put up a decent candidate, I would probably be voting for him/her. Or rather, I'd be voting against Bush's lack of fiscal spending.

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I'd be voting against Bush's lack of fiscal spending.
uhmmm Bush doesn't "lack" in the spending department...

I think you mean "fiscal responsibility".

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It's not too late everyone! We Europeans can still apply for a green card and vote Bush out!


This is exactly why Bush will win again, at least as long as France is in Europe. Americans will go to the polls and vote for the person that makes them feel best about America, and...it is not Kerry.

The political parties will have an impact, but its the independents who will put Bush back in office. Like it or not, the GDIs will make the difference, and independents are far more likely to swing conservative than liberal. If the Democrats had chosen a conservative Democrat, they might've had a chance.

Of course, I could be completely wrong.

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Except, of course, for that boring loser, Al Gore.


As if Bush wasn't a loser.

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uhmmm Bush doesn't "lack" in the spending department...

I think you mean "fiscal responsibility".


I mean what I says.

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REAGAN was charismatic? Are we talking about the sleepy guy who kept forgetting to keep that naughty CIA from selling weapons to radicals to support central American death squads? I know he was an ex-actor, but even Dubya appears grounded in an alternate reality closely resembling our own in many ways.

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In another thread, Cal expressed agreement with something I said. Is this the end of the world?


Uh, unless you turned atheist or began opposing gay marriage, we agree on more than that...it was my impression that our main difference was that you're a 'choicer and a more scholastic Christian than myself. In terms of major disagreements, I mean. Temperamentally and such is a whole other story...

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Kerry blows. He will do no better than Bush.

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Kerry blows. He will do no better than Bush.


Agree, and I like the sig re: Libertarians.

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Of course, I could be completely wrong.


Yes. You are wrong. Despite the SUV-owning, medal-throwing crap ( ) the media keeps bandying around, they are still in a statistical dead heat with even Nader thrown in the mix.

There is a LOT going on right now. And even more so after June 30. It amazes that people think he's a fading candidate based the exaggeration of NON issues, like whether his family or he owns an SUV. This is ridiculous. People barely know the guy.

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People barely know the guy.


Exactly! Six months ain't gonna change this by much. Plus, most Americans are not liberal. Gore won a majority of the vote in 2000 by 200,000 votes, which is not a mandate by any stretch. Bush won 30 states to Gore's 20. Thank God for the Electoral College. The idea that folks in California, with out the Electoral College, would decide the election over the wishes of Americans in a majority of states makes me shudder.

The vast majority of Americans are doing pretty damn well. Iraq, like it or not, is an extension of the containment effort of radical Islamic Fundamentalism and to prevent a large portion of the world's oil supply from being controlled any longer by unstable leadership. Americans support this whole heartedly, maybe not most 18 - 22 year-olds, but they live in an illusory world.

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People barely know the guy.
Seems to have been an unpleasent consequence of the coronation the Democrats had for Kerry. This seems to have been a plus for Bush because it allows him the time needed to define Kerry for the voters before Kerry can do so.

 
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