17-05-2004 19:48									#151
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w00t! Stop me from going home now and cranking up the speed! (I meant as in, of Baldur's Gate, not as in taking a heroic dose of a recreational drug )

When I go into a town/Friendly Arms, then I get annoyed by the fact that I can click on the next location and then wait for them to walk there. Fortunately I know they won't be attacked, so I can go and harass my girlfriend or something, whereas in the wild I have to keep an eye on the useless buggers.

	17-05-2004 23:42									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I think someone looked though the files and found its location ingame. Its a VERY overpowered ring, you don't want it. It doubles spells. NASTY evil spells. Nice sig BTW. Its from me though, putting words in Alva's mouth. -Jam

bah! you need something to make mages useful in this game . But they got their last laugh in BG2.

	17-05-2004 23:43									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Why don't you run BGconfig and turn the game speed up from 30 to 45 or even 60, if time is an issue? I always play BG1 on 60 (i.e. double speed) and the other IE games on 45. Otherwise you spend a lot of time watching your guys walking slowly -Jam

you can actually speed up how fast they walk! I never knew that, although I still don't think I'll do it. It just wouldn't feel right.

although it would be useful in beregost. As I sell all my stuff there. The one inn on the left side will buy jewelry and spells! no need to go to high hedge to sell them. And the smithy will buy the rest. But it takes a while to walk between the two.

and I sell everything, and I pick up everything. I'm so amazingly rich, I have nothing to do with all this money . I still pick up normal items like crossbows and plate mails. they sell for a decent amount. I leave weapons like short swords of course. but in the beginning, I even picked those up

	17-05-2004 23:49									#154
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It speeds up everything. The characters and enemies attack twice as often, spells take half as long to cast etc...

-Jam

	18-05-2004 12:42									#155
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hmmm

the good news is I finally reached the city of Baldur's Gate. The same point I had my other party at. I think I'm bored of that party, I may never finish that game . It's hard to pick up on a game after haven't played it in over 6 months.

But anyway, I have some quest in some thieves guild or something. I'm to meet this guy by the splurgeon surgeon (I think that's the name) inn. I meet the guy, and the guy says to keep an eye out, and the game moves me to a certain point, but nothing happens.

Is something supposed to happen? Are the guards supposed to come? What do I do?

	18-05-2004 13:18									#156
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Wouldn't that be the Splurging Surgeon?

Or is it a pub for icthyologists? The Sturgeon Surgeon?

	18-05-2004 16:02									#157
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The guards are supposed to come, then you can either dob your friend up or warn them.

If you're not patched, this can be buggy.

Nice pub names Duck!

-Jam

	18-05-2004 23:55									#158
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let me try that. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be in stealth mode, or not. Reading the text, it would seem I'm supposed to be "hiding"

	19-05-2004 00:56									#159
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hey it worked this time.

It said I wasn't supposed to attack the guard, so I fled. But when I return, the hostile guard is still there. What am I supposed to do with him?

just for fun, I killed the guard. And I killed all the civilians in the area to lower my reputation to 1. And then the enforcers came. I hadn't even finished off killing 1 group, when another group appeare in the same place. And then another group came ontop of the 2nd group. Needless to say, I died.

	19-05-2004 01:28									#160
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You're supposed to run and find the thief you're standing guard for, and talk to them.

-Jam

	19-05-2004 04:37									#161
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he eventually disappeared after I returned to the guild.

I finished this other quest involving me being poisioned. I had to kill this guy to get the other half of the antidote. this quest was a real pain . I was running all over the city- and getting more quests in the process. well I have the antidote, but when I drink it, nothing happens.

and why do they put a wall in the middle of the city what a pain.

	19-05-2004 04:40									#162
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Its always tempting to skip all the quests in the city itself and simply rush to the Flaming Fist place, have a quick chat, say no to whatever Scar offers, talk to Eltan, say "let's go now" and POW! next chapter. You can do the whole of chapter 5 in less than 5 minutes

-Jam

	19-05-2004 09:42									#163
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what's the XP cap again?

I like trying to get up to a higher level.

A cleric gets raise dead at level 9 right? Yes I know you never let your guys die. I usually don't either. But I try to avoid reloading if I can.

Viconia is now level 7. Although it takes such massive amounts of experience to get up any higher. But I still have to do Durlag's tower.

Baldur's Gate is a pretty cool city though. I'll try to do all the quests if I can. And why would I turn down Scar?

	19-05-2004 12:04									#164
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Then you can skip his quests. He says can you do "x", you say "Too busy mate" then he says how about "x" and you say "sorry, no time", and then it moves on the the end of the chapter encounter...

I'm often pretty near the EXP cap by the time I reach BG anyway, and with chapters 6 and 7 to go, I'm not short of chances to get more

However, I'm not sure what the EXP cap is in BG1, as I always play with it removed. WIthout using TuTu or TotSC though, there's no point in levelling past about the 7th or 8th level (depending on class)

-Jam

	20-05-2004 11:40									#165
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I think most of my guys are level 7 now. Except for my multiclass. But he's like 6 fighter and 7 thief.

	20-05-2004 16:26									#166
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Then your party won't get much better, sorry.

-Jam

	20-05-2004 16:30									#167
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But you can still pick up lots of better stuff.
Their abilities won't change, but they will hit harder and do more damage with fancy pieces of kit.

	21-05-2004 11:55									#168
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although I may be reaching a limit on the equipment I find.

I doubt I will be finding any +5 drow plate mail

I'm still using ankheg armour on 2 of my guys. The smithy would only make one pair. But you can "find" another pair. I use the word find very loosely.

	21-05-2004 12:06									#169
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Its very good armour, light, and lets you wear a RoP at the same time.

That gives you a better AC than Full Plate +1

-Jam

	21-05-2004 12:45									#170
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you sure about that?

I cannot wear a ring of protection at the same time.

although maybe I should check to make sure I'm not mistaken. But I gave Viconia one, because her weak ass cannot wear full plate mail very well. She wouldn't be able to carry much else.

just checked. It will not let me equip the ring of protection with the ankheg armour.

	21-05-2004 13:15									#171
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Is this yet another item that was "found" by going through the code?
I am planning to grab me a suit of ankheg armour. Although Jaheira is kitted out in full plate at the moment, I think that ankheg would be nice for my tank. At least until I come across some +whatever plate.

	21-05-2004 23:01									#172
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quote: It will not let me equip the ring of protection with the ankheg armour.

I checked too. You're right. Best to use Full Plate + RoP then.

-Jam

	22-05-2004 03:50									#173
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Okay, now in addition to having "Baldur's Gate II - The Collection" I now have "Baldur's Gate" and the expansion "Baldur's Gate - Tales of the Sword Coast".

Hopefully I can find the patches, Tutu and whatever else and actually get the game loaded on this LONG weekend. (Maybe then I can start understanding what you are all talking about).

* Sparrowhawk

	22-05-2004 04:16									#174
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I suggest you don't use TuTu for a first playthrough.

Install BG1
Then install TotSC
Then install latest patch for TotSC
Then install the BG1 "Ease of Use Mod"
Then play BG1.

Then install BG2
Then install Throne of Bhaal
Then install the latest ToB patch
Then install the "Baldurdash fixpack"
Then install the BG2 "Ease of Use Mod"
Then play BG2

You don't have to do it that way, but it will save a lot of tears.

-Jam

	22-05-2004 04:35									#175
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DoY and others seem to think you are the person to ask about BG and BGII, so I will happily follow your advice and try it out that way, will report back with updates on how it goes.

One question occurs to me while I read these threads though: If a party maxxes out in BGI, and doesn't start gaining again until BGII, does it max out in XP or in Levels? (Cause if it is Levels, it seems like the best bet would be to create a Multiclassed character, and though that character advances quite slowly, wouldn't this make sense?.....if it is XP on the other hand, forget Multiclass I guess??)

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	22-05-2004 04:47									#176
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It maxes out in XP. The EoU pack will remove the cap though, so its possible to max out in levels with a multiclassed character.

-Jam

	22-05-2004 07:46									#177
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Hmm, just finished saying I would follow your advice and already I am questioning......but here goes ...

This what I found under the "Ease of Use" readme file:

quote: Ease-of-use pack for BG1 (v. beta1) Created by Tioma (Igor Potemine, Ipotemine@aol.com, http://pageperso.aol.fr/Ipotemine) This pack contains : 1. Higher (500 items) stacks for gems/missiles/potions/scrolls. 2. Bag of holding (available at Erdane Store) and improved Erdane store (Durlag's Tower area) - The Bag of Holding (BoH) is quite tricky (portable item containers are not foreseen in Baldur's Gate 1) and it is, in fact, a conjurable low-price store. Put it in your cloak/robe slot and activate it clicking "backpack" (special item abilities) icon on the main screen. The Bag of Holding has 9999 charges. REP and CHA are instantly modified so using BoH is free of charge in the majority of cases. Although it could not work for some items having special abilities or if you buy items immediately after selling them. You couldn't put items having no values in BoH. You can buy BoH from Erdane immediately after enterring Durlag's Tower area (accessible in the very beggining of the game). - Improved Erdane Store contains now all previously available items + all basic weapons, as well as scrolls available in the beginning from Thalantyr + Knock scroll + BoH. You can also identify items and buy cures there. I created it for my "Starting from scratch in Durlag's Tower imprisonment" campaign. 3. Higher stacks for normal missiles in stores - Stacks of 100 normal arrows/bolts/bullets/darts - Stacks of 25 throwing daggers - Stacks of 10 throwing axes. 4. Maximum of hit points per level. - Thanx to Peterond Silverbow and Killahead for pointing out an error here. 5. Improved spell learning for bards and mages. Bards and mages with INT>=15 have now 100% chance to learn a spell from a scroll. They'll be able to learn all spells at each level. 6. Happy mode (no annoyed or angry NPC) 7. Happy dual-classing - In order to dual-class you only need to satisfy minimal requirements for a new class, no other requirements. Example: in order to dual-class to a fighter you need only STR>=9. Other example: Safana can now dual-class to fighter, clerc, mage, enchanter, illusionist or transmuter. 8. 500,000 xp, 1 million xp and 2 million xp level caps and xp level cap remover.

All of these sound like they modify the game in ways the developers wouldn't have intended...but do they improve or take away from the realism of the game? (Carrying multiple stacks of 500 arrows seems a little absurd to me, I have an image of quasimodo doing so, but not sure stand up straight afterwards )

	22-05-2004 12:06									#178
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I checked too. You're right. Best to use Full Plate + RoP then. -Jam

yep, that's what I noticed.

The only disadvantage is the weight. 50.

	22-05-2004 12:10									#179
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Hmm, just finished saying I would follow your advice and already I am questioning......but here goes ... This what I found under the "Ease of Use" readme file: All of these sound like they modify the game in ways the developers wouldn't have intended...but do they improve or take away from the realism of the game? (Carrying multiple stacks of 500 arrows seems a little absurd to me, I have an image of quasimodo doing so, but not sure stand up straight afterwards )

the cool thing about the ease of use pack I just found out recently, is you have the option of installing each component individually. I chose not to install some of the cheesier components.

My main reason for doing it was the arrows. Yes it is unrealistic, and I orginally didn't want to do it. But when I had a fighter with 4 points in bows, I was going through arrows like crazy. I was tired of going back to buy arrows all the time. I had little room to pick up items, because I put arrows on all my other characters as well.

I also did the max hp on level up and the writing scroll to spellbook always works. I know these are cheesy as well, but it just saves me having to reload when I get 1 Hitpoint on level up as I always seem to do Random number generator my ass

I did not do the bag of holding. I didn't feel like figuring out how to work the damn thing, and with the arrow stacking, I have plent of room anyways. So I really don't need a bag of holding.

I did not do happy mode either. As that didn't seem to be in the spirit of the game.

I don't think I did the dual classing thing as well.

I can't remember if I did the XP cap or not. we'll find out when I hit that.

	22-05-2004 17:02									#180
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Yeah, I mainly use it for the arrow stacking. Its hardly "fun" having to shop for arrows and muck about in the backpacks every 5 minutes. Its a pain in the bloody arse actually.

The max HP on level up is again a timesaver. As is auto write for scrolls. Its just a pain pressing quicksave/quickload over and over. Some spells there are only one copy of, and if you get unlucky the spell is gone. Puff!

-Jam