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Dual Imoen to a mage? (Time out:0 days after 06-05-2004, 16:45)
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Khalid is sooooo not a beserker. That's insane.

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Khalid is sooooo not a beserker. That's insane.

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I didn't know what to make him. Many of them I just kind of randomly chose. Some of them I just took no kit at all.

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uhhhh... okay...

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It made me laugh anyway *giggle*

I'd have left Khalid as a plain fighter.

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WTF Jamski?

Well we're into the city. I've done quite a few of the baby quests, but nothing too hard yet. I haven't been to see Scar, because I imagine that'll be quite tough. I've got loads of cool spells, but unfortunately aren't at a high enough level to use them all.
I also haven't been into the sewers yet. I ****ed up the first thief guild quest, which wasn't bright, but only because I picked the wrong option to say as a result of my being distracted (*cough* pissed).

Also, rather curiously, even before I went into BG (as in, my last save beforehand), my reputation had plummeted to 12. I have no idea what high jinks caused me to lose all of this, because I haven't been going round stabbing people in public or anything, but I still went down to average and ended up spending too much cash getting back up to a more respectable level. I've done a couple of easy quests with bonus rep points, but need more. Any recommendations?
And before anyone asks, no I didn't accept Viconia into the party four times.

Other than that, I spent ages yesterday playing the IWD demo that I got free with BGII. It's a nigh identical game to be honest, but is good fun. However, I thought that you could get some of the NPCs in the first town to join you, which you can't. Then I had to open up the character menu and create some more. And it would appear that if you die, then you can just create a new character to replace each one that you've lost. Not that I've needed to so far, but I'm off to Shadow Vale of whatever it's called, and the more difficult monsters may make a difference.

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WTF???
What the....? Where the....?
On what page did you find that?

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Its insane isn't it - and no I didn't make this one myself

Duck, you probably accidentally wasted some innocents - or perhaps you flooded the mines without releasing the slaves first

If you really need to boost your rep, give a few thousand to a temple. That won't boost you above 18 though, and it ain't cheap.

IWD is FUN! Its even more fun if you have HoW installed, because then you can play it in 800x600 res and it looks sweet. The plot is completely linear, and revolves around killing stuff. What more do you want?

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I paid that bloke to get rid of all the slaves, but I have to admit that I didn't check whether they were all out before flooding the mines.
Why am I only allowed one set of ankheg armour? No fair.

My IWD party is 4 fighters, a cleric and a F/M/T. Lots of fighting.

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The "ideal" IWD 1 party is

Paladin
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Fighter/Cleric
Cleric/Mage
Fighter(3)-->Mage

Trust me on that one, the combat gets pretty hairy, and you need all of your party to be able to fight + you need the protective and buffing spells.

Yours will do ok, if its only the demo, but you'll be short of *ZAP* when its needed. (Oh - and all Rangers really should take Skeletal Undead as their enemies - you'll see why )

-Jam

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That's all right. I can always change the entire party if anyone dies.

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Yeah, but they come in at a lower level

What you CAN do is export expericenced adventurers and then import them into a "newbie" party at the beginning of the game. Helps them stay alive.

-Jam

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I finished my BG1 game with a reputation of 6 .

High reputation is for wussies

In any case, by that point you should have decent amount of money.

Although I spent my time doing almost every single quest I could find.

When I entered Baldur's GAte I could cast level 4 spells, but I had none to cast. Because you can't find any level 4 spells until you get into Baldur's Gate.

The thief guild quest is kind of hard (not combat hard, just finding the correct places and not screwing it up and killing the wrong people ). If you do it, you should also do the quest for the other guy inside the thieves guild. (I had a post on this a page or two back). Just don't attack the guard.

Also getting that telescope from the hall of wonders is good experience.

And Scar's quests aren't real hard. Although once you do go into the "compound" there is one really tough boss battle. It took me a couple of tries to get through that one. My stupid mages always end up in front when I go up the stairs . But luckily there are 2 sets of stairs. So you can go back down, and then go up the other set

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Yeah, but they come in at a lower level

What you CAN do is export expericenced adventurers and then import them into a "newbie" party at the beginning of the game. Helps them stay alive.

-Jam


or just reload

that's what I did. Didn't lose a single character that way

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Although once you do go into the "compound" there is one really tough boss battle. It took me a couple of tries to get through that one.


4 fighters/archers launch Arrows of Detonation, both mages cast Fireball.

Remember to cast Protection from Fire *giggle*

-Jam

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Can you cast Protection from Fire on more than one person?
I've got the mage robe for protection from fire, and two potions, but I guess the robe ain't much use.

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There are also green scrolls of Protection from Fire or Magic, and the spell Protection from Fire/Cold. Oh, and a few rings of Protection from Fire. Just make sure the weaker members of the party have at least 75% protection - 100% is ideal, but not always possible.

-Jam

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I finished my BG1 game with a reputation of 6 .

High reputation is for wussies


That's all right. Your past actions have already given you a high reputation of wussiness.

Does your reputation carry forward with yourcharacter (and your gold kecks)?

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And the level 2 Cleric spell Resist Fire/Cold, and the level 3 Cleric Spell Protection from Fire, and the level 4 mage spell Minor Globe of Invunerablity (Fireballs should be completly nullified by this last one.)

-Jam

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Jammi Having fun with fundie religion vs DnD. Thats like, SO 1980's, aint it?

POTM and her two best friends from SYNAGOGUE have an RPG going that theyve made up - its vaguely DnDish, but closer to just playing make believe - they have special powers, planes, power objects but dont roll dice or have a formal DM. Theyve drawn in several synagogue kids, all of whom continue to be good Synagogue kids. Only real problem is when she posts to her friends webboard based on this game, instead of doing here homework. But then we can all sympathize with THAT


Oh and she HAS asked about the part of Torah that bans witchcraft - as a Harry Potter fan that troubles her. Had to look it up in my copy of "Everymans Talmud". it turns out its by no means simple, some things we would call occult (like astrology) were accepted by the Talmudic rabbis, while other things werent. Its a question, as always, of interpretation. It served as a nice launching pad, for the question of interpretation. I'll have to find more midrash (rabbinic interpretavive texts) on the subject to discusss with her.

It would be very interesting to see a game based on Jewish/kabbalistic magical traditions, but Im not counting on it. Maybe it could be done in NWN. I dont know enough of that stuff to add much, myself. I do notice that PS:T mentions a plane called "gehenna", the Jewish hell/purgatory. Not sure if thats an import from Pnp DnD.

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1984 actually LotM. Tell PotM that its good to use one's fantasy when one is young, as it will last one's whole life that way.

And tell her its ok to pretend to be a wizard and pretend to cast spells, same as some boys pretend to be soldiers and shoot people. Its only a game, and murder is worse than witchcraft anyway Using magic to fireball people though... hmm... its a nice combination.

-Jam

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That cartoon actually looks familiar. I don't remember the early 80's that much. But I do remember some anti-D&D stuff. And a lot of cool satanic metal back in those days. Those were the days

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1984 actually LotM. Tell PotM that its good to use one's fantasy when one is young, as it will last one's whole life that way.

And tell her its ok to pretend to be a wizard and pretend to cast spells, same as some boys pretend to be soldiers and shoot people. Its only a game, and murder is worse than witchcraft anyway Using magic to fireball people though... hmm... its a nice combination.

-Jam


Oh she understands that pretend is OK. No one in MY form of Judaism would suggest that PRETEND magic is wrong - the relevant Torah portion doesnt ban anything POTM is actually doing. Her concern is more academic - WHY does the Torah ban this, since magic COULD be good IF it existed? Asking such hypotheticals is a VERY Jewish thing to do - as such Im very pleased that she is asking. Thats how we explore the texts, and how we show honor to G-d's word - by taking it seriously enough to worry about even hypothetical applications of it - and to question it aggressively. I wouldnt want to belong to a religion that DIDNT encourage questioning and debate.

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1984 actually LotM.


Whats interesting is that the originators of DnD actually started as military miniatures players, IIUC, and first got into the role playing thing in the context of a political spin - off of wargaming - I think they were modeling post WW2 US occupation of a town in Germany, or something like that. Then the fantasy thing took off, and of course displaced and exceeded the 1970's wargaming fad.

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there is still a lot of good satanic metal these days
Just have to find it

Damnit i'm getting frustrated, I still have to finish BG2+ToB, IWD1+expansions and IWD2 but I NEVER seem to find the time
life's crap

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do notice that PS:T mentions a plane called "gehenna", the Jewish hell/purgatory. Not sure if thats an import from Pnp DnD.

Gehenna is one of the Ethereal planes in D&D, I believe. Other planes are the "Nine Hells"-->of Asiatic Literature... The "Seven Heavens", "Nirvana", etc. (It's all in the Deities and Demigods handbook- $29.99 at your local bookseller ... and if they don't carry it- tell them to go to Limbo!]

You see- each of the planes is for a different alignment.

Limbo is for NEUTRAL NEUTRAL (I think)
Nine Hells is for CHAOTIC NEUTRAL (I think)
Nirvana is for NEUTRAL GOOD (I think)

and so on.

The D&D universe is expansive

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oh, by the way, just wondering, does anyone know of any Guides for IWD2 that cover Chapter 6 and beyond?

I found a great one up to Chapter 5 and I'm nearly done with the chapter... and I'm starting to worry that I might have issues with Chapter 6 and am hoping that it doesn't have any 'weird tricks' like that **** Ice Temple In chapter 2/3.

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I have a good one...

http://ashfordcity.beigetower.org/f...topic.php?t=507

Try one of the walkthroughs here.

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Gehenna is one of the Ethereal planes in D&D, I believe. Other planes are the "Nine Hells"-->of Asiatic Literature... The "Seven Heavens", "Nirvana", etc. (It's all in the Deities and Demigods handbook- $29.99 at your local bookseller ... and if they don't carry it- tell them to go to Limbo!]

You see- each of the planes is for a different alignment.

Limbo is for NEUTRAL NEUTRAL (I think)
Nine Hells is for CHAOTIC NEUTRAL (I think)
Nirvana is for NEUTRAL GOOD (I think)

and so on.

The D&D universe is expansive


30 dollars of a Dn D handbook No, im not that much into this stuff. The different planes for different alignments IS mentioned in PS:T, by the traveller who tells you about them.

Actually i wouldnt mind seeing the old Jamski quote on Sigil as a soupspoon - somebody had that as a sig quote, but i cant find it now.

 
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