23-05-2004 03:09									#181
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Okay, I successfully installed the games last night and started playing, not sure what to think just yet, I am having some trouble with the combat system (who attacks who and keeping everyone attacking who they should be). My party is now up to six and I have only had 3 players die (though earlier I screwed up and Imoen and my PC both were killed and I didn't have a save = restarting from scratch )

I also am having some difficulty with Inventory (keeping track of who has what and what are their "quick" items as opposed to their held items).

Aside from these minor concerns which I am sure I will straighten out, the game is going well. I am at the Friendly Arm Inn right now.

	23-05-2004 03:50									#182
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Save often. Level 1 characters are fragile. Very fragile.

Use pause often, give the orders, and unpause. Its good to gang the whole party onto one enemy at a time.

Ranged attacks are king. If you can kill them before they get a chance to swing at you - you win.

If you had Imoen, then you MUST have had an autosave too

-Jam

	23-05-2004 04:09									#183
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Umm........there is an autosave?? .......(confused Sparrowhawk goes off to check game)......
Hmm, not sure what to say, there is an autosave there now, but I thought when I tried to reload after my PC was killed the first time (with Imoen, by a wolf outside of Candlekeep) that the only possibility to reload was the "Mission Pack" save. I could be wrong (and probably am ) but this is all I remember seeing......and I was looking for an autosave at the time too

	23-05-2004 04:11									#184
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It should autosave every time you change maps... hmmm... there could be an exception because this map change happens in a cutscene...

-Jam

	23-05-2004 17:36									#185
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use quicksave . much handier

	24-05-2004 03:21									#186
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what's the button for quickload? I know the quicksave button- q I believe. But I normally load the usual way.

	24-05-2004 03:41									#187
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I have it set to Q and L

You can set it up in the BGconfig

-Jam

	24-05-2004 10:35									#188
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L for me gives the map coordinates.

helpful for finding things such as the ring of wizardry

	24-05-2004 12:04									#189
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Ah. X for me is map coordinates. X marks the spot and all that

-Jam

	24-05-2004 13:38									#190
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You already have the latest patch for ToSC if you got the pack with both in (DvD case).

I'm about to enter the Cloakwood mines. I'm getting sick of baddies hanging around in mines - have they got nothing better to do? I am also always ambushed by 2 giant spiders and 2 wyverns whenever I got to travel anywhere by Cloakwood. Nice exp, but a pain to have to carry so many antidotes. I wish I'd got the Ease of Use pack to work properly, because I do find myself going back to pick up more arrows and slingshots all the bloody time.

Also, the duchess is going away next weekend so I should make some progress. (with the housework of course! )

	24-05-2004 23:00									#191
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well you can install the ease of use pak anytime (I didn't do it until just before cloakwood mines). And you can install each component individually so you don't have to install the other things such as the XP cap remover, and NPC happy mode.

I used to save before travelling areas, and reload to avoid random encounters. But I'm so tough now, that isn't necessary. Although that wyvern and spider fight is a difficult random encounter. I got killed the first couple of times I tried it. But if I unleash all my spells, it isn't too bad.

As for antidote. I never carry it. Never. My main character has slow poison (part of his special abilities- which may depend on alignment- I'm lawful evil)- which actually seems to cure poison. And my cleric has one slow posion memorized. That's usually more than enough. My AC is high enough that I don't get poisoned often.

Maybe Jamski can explain why slow posion actually seems to cure posion.

	24-05-2004 23:45									#192
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Maybe Jamski can explain why slow posion actually seems to cure posion.

In theory there are various types of posion - slow poison will cure the less serious types, but against the more serious types it will only change them into a less serious type.

In practice I've only seen two types of poison: ones that slow poison cures, and ones that kill you so quickly there's no chance to try slow poison on them.

	25-05-2004 01:27									#193
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Slow poison actually cures poison in the BG games, which is not what it should do in the proper D&D rules. But who cares. The "fast type" of poison is save or die, and the "normal" poison that does damage each second or round is stopped by an antidote or Slow Poison. Just the way the game works. *shrugs*

And ALWAYS carry antidotes, because you can't cast Slow Poison very well on yourself (the damage you take each second interrupts the spell casting) and antidotes are cheap and common after all. I give everyone 2 in a quickslot.

-Jam

	25-05-2004 01:53									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski And ALWAYS carry antidotes, because you can't cast Slow Poison very well on yourself (the damage you take each second interrupts the spell casting)

Oh, I've had fun trying to cure poison on myself at the start of BGII when I'm playing solo and haven't got any antidotes yet (or am forbidding myself their use). It works about a third of the time... Many reloads required .

	25-05-2004 02:08									#195
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Traps in Irenicus's place? Know the feeling. I end up gulping healing potions to keep up with the damage

-Jam

	25-05-2004 11:52									#196
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okay Jamski.

Those Dwarf warders in the 2nd level below the entrance to durlag's tower.

How do you solve those riddles?

you can use spoiler tags if you want.

They don't give me an option to try an solve the riddles.

	26-05-2004 01:10									#197
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yes, but it's pretty hard
Have you got the mallet?

	26-05-2004 08:12									#198
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I finally figured that part out. It just required getting the items.

But now I'm stuck on that cultist battle with the demon or whatever in Ulgoth's beard after finishing Durlog's tower. this battle is simply impossible.

Freakin' impossible. I can't figure out what is happening. Just when I'm about to finally win that battle Montaron dies and there is a red circled ghoul in his place. It could have been one of mine as I used several monster summonings and a create undead. I specifically placed Montaron in the corner so he wouldn't be killed.

But It's been like 6 times in a row he has been killed and his portrait completely removed

I've never had trouble with battles like this in Baldur's Gate 2. There must be something I'm missing.

Yes I said the chess board battle was impossible. But I got that after 3 tries. It has now been 7 tries and I cannot win this battle.

	26-05-2004 08:30									#199
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As soon as the demon casts that ghoulify spell, you have to then cast dispel magic on that character.

With that battle, you have to eliminate the cultists before the demon. If the demon dies, he will inhabit the body of a cultist. Which means you have to keep the demon otherwise occupied while you kill off the cultists. I used two wands of summoning and kept as many summons as possible around the demon.

	26-05-2004 08:55									#200
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just tried again as you said. I was down to 1 cultist to kill. And again Montaron dies for no reason that I can tell. I don't know what's killing him.

	26-05-2004 08:58									#201
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I kept going and he now got Edwin.

It appears he's turning my characters into ghasts.

Is there any way to turn them back?

	26-05-2004 09:20									#202
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I fianally got it.

Actually I won the battle a couple of times, but I couldn't do it without losing a character being turned into a ghast.

I finally won it without having a character turned into a ghast. arty:

	27-05-2004 11:25									#203
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I don't like to see the Baldur's Gate thread on page 2.

The original Baldur's Gate battles are very easy.

But I must say, I found a few battles in the expansion very challenging. More challenging than Baldur's Gate 2 battles. That may be because my mages don't have as many powerful spells to choose from.

Even that chessboard battle I found tough. It was tough protecting my mages. I also had trouble protecting my mages on those battles on the shipwrecked ship.

And why do werewolves only give 420 XP? They are tough for only 420 XP.

	27-05-2004 13:19									#204
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Durlag's Tower is designed to be a challenge. And its not like you need the EXP is it?

-Jam

	27-05-2004 21:17									#205
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werewolves suck... Greater werewolves on the other hand , especially in BGI are a maajor pain in the ass, they regenerate faster than you're able to hurt them

	27-05-2004 23:31									#206
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Dissident, don't worry, it took me about 20+ restarts to beat the demon... but I did it eventaully. It just takes a lot of spellcasting

(I did it with the party given by the expansion pack for Sword Coast )

	27-05-2004 23:37									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus werewolves suck... Greater werewolves on the other hand , especially in BGI are a maajor pain in the ass, they regenerate faster than you're able to hurt them

UnBaldurdashed Greater Wolfweres in BGII suffer from a bug which leads to them sometimes having absurdly speedy regeneration...

Of course, no matter how fast they regenerate you can still kill them with Lower Resistance / Greater Malison / Finger of Death, should you have a sufficiently high level mage handy. I can't quite imagine what it would be like playing BGI and not having even a hope of ever getting such spells...

	28-05-2004 14:32									#208
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How can I defeat Daevorn?
I've tried a few times to beat him, but he toasts me.

spoiler(highlight to read): Also, Coran isn't good enough to disarm the fourth trap in the row, so I just had to trigger it and he got a spinny wheel in the face. Oops. Went back to the bedroom to be healed though, and this is where I'm saved. I can go down and scout to find out where Daevorn is, but as soon as he spots me then splat! I wish I could just rush him with summoned creatures, but I used my wand up. Help please!

	28-05-2004 15:58									#209
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york How can I defeat Daevorn? I've tried a few times to beat him, but he toasts me. spoiler(highlight to read): Also, Coran isn't good enough to disarm the fourth trap in the row

I can't help you with Daevorn, but

spoiler(highlight to read): for the trap, would a potion of master thievery help? (Just to save you a rest, and perhaps gain a few precious new XP) In fact, I'm not sure that they help with find traps rating...

	28-05-2004 16:02									#210
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But I already opened the trap! It hardly did any damage, and a Cure Light Wounds was sufficient!

spoiler(highlight to read): And where am I going to get a potion like that from this early in the game?