12-05-2004 04:30									#61
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Again, you are assuming AQ is the same as al-Sadr or the Baathist. AQ's goals are not the same. The allter two want us out of Iraq. The former wants to control the entire Islamic world. They can't achieve their greater goal if they main recruiting tool ceases to exist.

Neither can they do so if we have troops in the Mideast.

	12-05-2004 04:58									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar I'm sure even Reagangod would disapprove of the violations of international law going on in Iraq. Well....maybe not.

The atrocities in Iraq, regardless of the nationality of the person(s) comitting them, are horrendous.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

	12-05-2004 05:08									#63
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quote: Again, you are assuming AQ is the same as al-Sadr or the Baathist. AQ's goals are not the same. The allter two want us out of Iraq. The former wants to control the entire Islamic world. They can't achieve their greater goal if they main recruiting tool ceases to exist.

AQ ALSO wants the US out of Iraq... and out of the ME as a whole. They can't make an entire Islamic world with the US butting in Iraq. France banning headscarves was a good recruiting tool and they didn't do jack. I mean you CAN'T be this conspiratorially minded, can you? Usually when terrorists groups tell you their goals, they mean them.

	12-05-2004 05:48									#64
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WHERE IS THE ****ING OUTRAGE IN THE ARAB WORLD FROM THIS??? WHERE??? I SURE AS **** DON'T SEE IT. ARABS CONDONE THIS **** BY THEIR SILENCE **** YOU **** ALL OF YOU

	12-05-2004 06:06									#65
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There is none Ted, he was just another Infidel.

and we shouldn't go apeshit over this, we should of course respond, but we should do so smartly.

For the rest of you pontificating on AQ's motives, they want us all dead, pure and simple.

	12-05-2004 06:15									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker WHERE IS THE ****ING OUTRAGE IN THE ARAB WORLD FROM THIS??? WHERE??? I SURE AS **** DON'T SEE IT. ARABS CONDONE THIS **** BY THEIR SILENCE **** YOU **** ALL OF YOU

I agree whole heartedly. Turn the Marines loose. To hell with what the world thinks.

	12-05-2004 06:23									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I don't want to see it, but where did you get the video DRoseDARs?

Sure you don't.

	12-05-2004 06:26									#68
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Agathon would hit it

	12-05-2004 06:31									#69
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we are at war... and the rules were changed over 10 years ago when those pig dogs started all of this. I am sick of us getting attacked for mistreatment of prisoners of war with these Jackasses have been killing there prisoners in a public display for over a decade.

F'them, I hope they shove hot pokers up their bums instead of just broomsticks.

I know what those few did were wrong, but what they are doing is not the few, it is their military, and what they did is not out of retaliation it's out them just being evil arseholes.

and in the words of a great 'Poly poster:

"Nukem til they glow, then nuke them again"



damn, and I WAS in a good mood.

	12-05-2004 06:41									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Jesus Christ! You know, when perhaps they had their goal of Americans being disgusted with the US occupation in Iraq, they go do something like this which will just rile up the American populace all over again.

Too true. For once everyone on both sides were showing some solidarity over the horendous treatment of Iraqi prisoners. Now the Iraqis have gone off the deep end only to piss off Americans even more - people will probably say the Iraqi prisoners deserved what they got after this. Especially since we didn't actually kill any prisoners either. Its just going to give Bush another excuse to get all righteous about whats going on in Iraq.

Clearly they don't understand how we think just as much as we don't understand how they do... and I would even say much more so.

	12-05-2004 06:42									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Japher "Nukem til they glow, then nuke them again"

Even better than the Marines.

	12-05-2004 06:45									#72
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It's from Sloww...

	12-05-2004 06:45									#73
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Next thing you know they'll be shooting pregnant women and all of her kids and nobody in the Arab or Muslim world will give a damn.

OH WAIT THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

	12-05-2004 06:47									#74
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but god forbid some girl takes your clothes off and laughs at you!!!


oh, sorry Ted, didn't mean to offend

	12-05-2004 06:49									#75
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good one

	12-05-2004 06:53									#76
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quote: WHERE IS THE ****ING OUTRAGE IN THE ARAB WORLD FROM THIS??? WHERE??? I SURE AS **** DON'T SEE IT. ARABS CONDONE THIS **** BY THEIR SILENCE **** YOU **** ALL OF YOU

Al Queda killing someone equals the USA torturing someone?

	12-05-2004 06:54									#77
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draw your own conclusions or spell it out in damn english

i'm not in the mood for games dickhead

	12-05-2004 06:56									#78
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Ted, there's passion, and there's rage.

Calm down some, man.

	12-05-2004 06:59									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon You mean plenty of poor Blacks and Okies who'll do the job for peanuts and whom your society will abandon once they outlive their use?

Darn you! I want the rest of my peanuts!

	12-05-2004 06:59									#80
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Rage is passion, a passion that only the liberal world bothers to deal with... that and sex, but then hey!

The problem is that there is no passion over these killings due to strange "torture" practices, but for the "torture" there is, because there's is RAGE FROM A BARBARIC NATION!

	12-05-2004 06:59									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker i'm not in the mood for games dickhead

Neither am I

	12-05-2004 07:07									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Japher but god forbid some girl takes your clothes off and laughs at you!!! oh, sorry Ted, didn't mean to offend

*delurk*
US and UK forces have done far worse than humiliation, including murder. Not that this even matters, the prisoners abused, humiliated, tortured and murdered by US and UK forces have been convicted of no crime, and can't be held accountable for this latest outrage or any other.
*lurk*

	12-05-2004 07:13									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Neither am I

What's your feeling on this?

	12-05-2004 07:15									#84
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Al Queda is expected to do this, even if it's unfortunate.

The USA is a proud, upstanding nation of morals and integrity. We lost some of that.

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Al Queda isn't an official government--a terrorist organization killing someone is more plausible than a USA*

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Ted, a shame Arabs don't protest in the streets against this--much like Americans do when some West or Western-related group does something like this, they're probably just ignorant or swept into mass bullsh!t (for example, "they did it so we can too," the basic premise of the unfortunate Okie Senator's recent speech).

EDIT: Sorry. completed, "than a USA torturing someone. Reaction to a terrorist group is a lot different than reaction to a nation."

And I should have said something like "Well many Arabs really wouldn't support it if they would just speak up/had democracy, education, and weren't living in hellholes."

	12-05-2004 07:20									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Disgusting. Let's hope the US finds those responsible (and they resist).

In this case, surrender or not, I would still put a bullet in their head.

	12-05-2004 07:21									#86
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What's Ming's "Feelings" ?
That bastard has no "feelings".
He might could claim thought process, but certainly not "feelings".

	12-05-2004 07:24									#87
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And Japher? To be totally accurate, it's:
Nuke them until they glow, then nuke them for glowing.
You put forth a damned fine effort though.

	12-05-2004 07:39									#88
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Nuke them until they glow, then nuke them for glowing.

That'll work too.





Nice Sloww...nice.

	12-05-2004 08:08									#89
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quote: And Japher? To be totally accurate, it's: Nuke them until they glow, then nuke them for glowing. You put forth a damned fine effort though.

Sorry for the misquote. I actually had a list of quotes from 'poly and I just deleated it the other day because I never used them... that was a mistake, there were some good ones... I'll start it up again.

	12-05-2004 08:09									#90
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quote: 05-11-2004 01:08 pm There seems to be a video of the beheading of a US hostage by AQ linked militants claiming it was paybakc for the prisoner abuse. PREDICTION: 1. People will demand we give equal time to that video as to the prisoner scandal 2. The horrific crime commited against this hostage will be touted as a "comparison" between the military and AQ, and hence be touted as an excuse. "you think we are bad! Look at them!" So predicts Gepap..and so shall it be.

from
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=114573

Damn, people are predictable, so damned predictable.