15-07-2004 23:49									#121
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I can't see playing through more than twice. But if you enjoy roleplaying, there are multiple ways to get through certain situations.

But I would like to replay it again as an evil character. Eventually I may get around to it.

I want to use that badass evil weapon.

	16-07-2004 02:46									#122
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I never finished playing my first time 'round, but I've recently loaded it onto my work laptop so I can play when things get slow (besides, it looks much better on my 15" laptop screen than my 21" monitor). I remember one of my favorite moments being when I invited a hungry NPC to gnaw on me and my alignment shifted incrementally to good. I remember thinking "Now that's something you don't experience every day." I really have to get back into it again.

	16-07-2004 04:33									#123
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Do you enjoy playing PST again after having been through the plot once?

The first time I played through I went in blind, and wound up missing a lot of quests (

spoiler(highlight to read): f'rinstance, I never got the "fiend-in-the-box" quest, and so I never did the "alley of dangerous angles" quest, plus I never got Nordrom or Vhailor, nor did I go back for the bronze sphere after Pharod was killed by the shadows, etc.

), so the second time I found a good walkthrough so that I wouldn't miss anything. The second time was probably as good as the first, since there was so much gameplay that I'd missed out on the first time (

spoiler(highlight to read): not to mention that I'd missed out on two possible endings the first time through, since I wasn't intelligent/wise enough to defeat the Transcendent One through dialogue options and wound up having to duke it out with him

). I'm finding that the third time through isn't as fun -- unlike in BG, there's not much difference between playing a lawful-good or a chaotic-evil character, except that chaotic-evil characters get a bit less XP and a bit more gold than lawful good characters, plus I seem to be attacked by thugs far more often as an evil character than as a good character.

	16-07-2004 18:37									#124
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yeah, im playing through the first time without walkthroughs, occasionally asking for help here (and the help here isnt nearly as massive as for BG - PST is apparently not one of Jamskis main obsessions )

While i have managed some of things you missed, i would consider doing the game a second time with benefit of a walkthrough - and maybe try for a different character - but its hard to see doing it much beyond that.

	20-07-2004 18:24									#125
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so does anyone know

spoiler(highlight to read): where the anvil is? Im trying to use the foundry, and have the stuff from the clerk, and the iron, and theres supposed to be an anvil lying around, but no one will tell me where. Im tired of pixel hunting - any hints?

Also im in clerks ward and went into the curiosity shop

spoiler(highlight to read): tried selling annah, but that didnt work out well. Is selling a party member a bad idea, despite what the book i found earlier says?

I do hope Im getting close to the end.

	20-07-2004 18:30									#126
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spoiler(highlight to read): You just need to find the vat that's empty and click on it. You'll need tongs, fire protection, a hammer, and ore. And don't sell Annah -- the benefits you get from the Book of Pestilential Thought just aren't worth the evil alignment it gives you if you listen to it.

	20-07-2004 18:38									#127
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark so does anyone know spoiler(highlight to read): where the anvil is? Im trying to use the foundry, and have the stuff from the clerk, and the iron, and theres supposed to be an anvil lying around, but no one will tell me where. Im tired of pixel hunting - any hints?

Already answered , you can find all the items in the foundry.

quote: Also im in clerks ward and went into the curiosity shop spoiler(highlight to read): tried selling annah, but that didnt work out well. Is selling a party member a bad idea, despite what the book i found earlier says?

spoiler(highlight to read): You can sell a useless party member, like Fall-from-Grace, to get the Adder's kiss spell. Completing all the tasks will give you Power Word Kill spell.

quote: I do hope Im getting close to the end.

Althrough I do not know what you have done, or have not, I suppose you completed around 55 percent of the game. Do not worry, once you leave Sigil, things are more straightforward and faster. Be sure to visit

spoiler(highlight to read): Modrons's Maze and Siege Tower

	21-07-2004 03:54									#128
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He might be around 60 or 2/3 of the way through.

	21-07-2004 03:58									#129
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After Sigil it seemed to go pretty quickly. Probably because it was so straightforward.

	21-07-2004 04:00									#130
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yeah, you spend less time going back and forth between areas. I guess you can say it's more linear . But not too much. You can do those mazes at any time iirc. I did all of them. But I think one isn't required.

	21-07-2004 13:32									#131
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Wow, so many posts repeating the same information.

	22-07-2004 00:52									#132
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ive done, i think all of the lower ward except the siege towar, and, i think, all of the clerks ward.

Now Im stymied. How do I get to the upper ward? (that is the next step?) ive seen the weapon in the great foundary, head the lectures in the festhall, etc. Still a bunch of unresolved quests including some from the hive. Still only 3 party members (never got morte back).

	22-07-2004 00:56									#133
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You haven't got Morte back? No Ignus in the party? No Nordom? You we got a lot of things to do quickly. Your objective would be to get Morte back and go to Clerks Ward - which is easy to get in - just go SE.

	22-07-2004 01:00									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Illuminatus You haven't got Morte back? No Ignus in the party? No Nordom? You we got a lot of things to do quickly. Your objective would be to get Morte back and go to Clerks Ward - which is easy to get in - just go SE.

I think i mislaid the skull i needed - the usual inventory management trouble, including lots of skulls down in the dungeons below the Hive, and i stowed some, or dropped some somewhere. Im not too keen on pixel hunting back through the entire Hive, for every skull i might have dropped anywhere - IF - as ive been told - I dont need Morte to finish the game.

I need some secret word to get Ignus - havent found it. Nordom - who he?

	22-07-2004 04:22									#135
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Nordom I think is the guy you get in one of the mazes. He's that mechanical thingy. I'm not sure what to call him.

	22-07-2004 13:37									#136
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Nordom is a rogue Modron. Ypu shall get the secret ward in Clerk's Ward. Nordom can be get in maze for which you need a certain item.

	22-07-2004 21:41									#137
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ok. so next thing i do is check all recent journal entries for anything on Ignus' work, then go back and talk to every single character in the clerks, ward, focusing just on that, till i find it.

I went down an entry to the "underworld of sigil" thinking it might lead somewhere interesting, like the sewers in BG. Had some really nasty monsters. Any reason to try again?

	22-07-2004 21:43									#138
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Although I wasn't real impressed by him as a "fighter" I tink he has a crossbow you can use. Like the only crossbow in the game . But losing Morte isn't the end of the world. His usefulness isn't that great near the end of the game. The fighter/mage can do more damage I believe. Morte is pretty useful in the early stages, because you don't have much offensive power then. Combat isn't a real big part of this game anyways.

	22-07-2004 22:34									#139
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Under-sigil is just a place to level up your characters. You can also get some good drops there much later in the game, when it's too late for them to do you any good.

spoiler(highlight to read): Morte, Nordrom, and the githzerai become much more impressive after you explore all of their dialogue options. F'rinstance, Morte gets some nice stat boosts after you explore the "baatorian smell" dialogue options, and the githzerai becomes much more impressive after you've unlocked the 8th circle of zerthimon and talked to him about it. I added Fall-From-Grace to my party on the second run-through just to get the "baatorian smell" dialogue options, and dumped her shortly after. Who needs her healing spells when you've got blood bridge?

	23-07-2004 20:01									#140
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fall from grace and annah were pleasant to look at I had both in my party. Along with the gith and Morte. And near the end I got that one dude who's real hard to get. he's a lawful evil type.

I didn't bother with Ignus, as I was a mage myself, I didn't need the extra mage firepower.

	23-07-2004 20:19									#141
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I got Ignus to get some spells (since I had HP to spare), then dumped him. A lot of the tougher enemies are immune to fire anyway, which is also why I never bothered getting those expensive fire-teeth for Morte (the first time through I couldn't afford them, the second time through I could afford them but I knew I didn't want them, since Ingress' teeth are more consistent).

	28-07-2004 22:12									#142
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ok, ive gotten fall from grace, and the word to get Ignus(had to check a walkthrough to get that )

I want another mage sine im not a mage. Clearly going nameless one going mage and then learning blood bridge should be powerful, but i already had daakon learn that scroll, and i assume no other blood bridge scroll will show up, so im keeping nameless a fighter.

It seems from talking to Annah that i can get nameless journal back in Pharods hangout, and i need that to open up more of the game.

	28-07-2004 23:10									#143
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Blood bridge is a pretty common spell, I think it might even be a random drop, but at any rate I'm almost sure that somebody sells it. It's a lot more useful to have Nameless One cast it than Dakkon, seeing as how Nameless One regenerates like a madman if you're playing lawful-good. Ignus and Fall-From-Grace also regenerate (I assume that Ignus could cast blood bridge, though like I said I dumped him and never had him learn it), but not nearly as quickly as a beefed-up Nameless One -- it can be a problem with Fall-From-Grace, who's a real idiot in battle.

I don't think you need any of Nameless One's journals to finish the game, though they give good experience and some really help later on. At this point you can probably leave Sigil whenever you want (after completing the "getting the stuff to leave Sigil" quest, of course).

spoiler(highlight to read): Pharod has the bronze sphere, which you should pick up -- it's a journal of sorts, I suppose. The other journals are the one in your crypt in the catacombs (the stuff written on the walls), and the dodecohedron in your old room in the hall of sensates.

	28-07-2004 23:23									#144
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spoiler(highlight to read): Bronze sphere is also VERY usefulla t the end of the game

	28-07-2004 23:39									#145
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spoiler(highlight to read): geez, i think i returned the bronze sphere to Pharod, wasnt I supposed to? Wonder if this is yet another mistake I cant undo?

So is it worth it to turn Nameless to a mage? that leaves me with no pure fighter, but maybe thats ok.

	28-07-2004 23:50									#146
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spoiler(highlight to read): You did return for it after Pharod died?

	29-07-2004 00:10									#147
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spoiler(highlight to read): You did return for it after Pharod died? - i dont remember, what happened after i went off with Annah. Ill need to recheck my journal, I guess. I suppose i need to go back.

	29-07-2004 00:11									#148
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Nameless is still pretty good as a fighter even after you've switched him over to magery, so long as you boosted his knife proficiency.

	29-07-2004 20:29									#149
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ok ive picked up Ignus. I wonder if it will be annoying that he has all his own set of spells. I mean i can see why that could be seen as adding to the story, and adding strategy, but i have enough trouble remembering spell effects as it is.

now im gonna go look for mourning trees (or whatever) to finish that quest.

	02-08-2004 18:31									#150
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ive gone back to pharods area

spoiler(highlight to read): got his sphere, went into his vault, got the doll

then went back to the clerks ward, became a sensate,

spoiler(highlight to read): went to my old room, got all those spells, and the dodecahedron - now i need to figure out what to do with the sphere, the dodecahedron, and the doll

also still looking for mourning trees, so i can go back to Mebbeth and become a Mage.