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The Emperor Fabulous is offline The Emperor Fabulous
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For those who didn't watch the speech, or didn't get what points were made, here they are:

Presidential goals

"Make America stronger and respected in the world."

"Restore trust and credibility to the White House."

War in Iraq

Bring in more allies to share burden.

Foreign policy

"Never hesitate to use force when it is required."

Meet any attack "with a swift and certain response."

"Never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."

Lead global effort against nuclear proliferation.

Military policy

Add 40,000 active duty troops.

Double special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations.

End "backdoor draft of National Guard and reservists."

Go to war only "because we have to."

Never fight "a war without a plan to win the peace."

National security

Immediately implement 9/11 commission recommendations.

Inspect container ships coming into ports.

Better protect nuclear and chemical plants.

Economic plan

New incentives to "revitalize manufacturing."

Invest in technology and innovation to create "good-paying jobs."

Close tax loopholes that "reward companies for shipping our jobs overseas."

Reward companies that "create and keep good-paying jobs" at home.

"Fair playing field" for American workers to compete in global economy.

Tax policies

"I will not privatize Social Security. I will not cut benefits."

Cut the deficit in half in four years by ending "tax giveaways that are nothing more than corporate welfare."

Cut taxes for middle class.

Reduce tax burden on small businesses.

Roll back tax cuts for individuals making more than $200,000 a year.

Make government "pay as you go."

Education

Demand accountability from parents, teachers and schools.

Reduce class size.

Create tax credit to families for every year of college.

Health care

Health care "a right for all Americans."

Make system more efficient to save families up to $1,000 a year on premiums.

Ensure that system allows patients to pick their own doctors.

Allow patients and doctors to make decisions, not insurance companies.

Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices for seniors.

Allow Americans to buy less expensive drugs from countries like Canada.

Energy policy

Invest in new technologies and alternative fuels.

Invest in cars of the future.

Campaign goals

Take the high road.

"Be optimists, not just opponents."

"Build unity in the American family, not angry division."

"Make this election a contest of big ideas, not small-minded attacks."

- From CNN.com

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I disagree. When you're trying to sell yourself, one of the most effective techniques is to let others do the selling. Let the crowd cheer their hearts out. It makes you seem a much better speaker.


Dunno about that. It makes you lose your momentum, which especially hurts in long speeches.

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Never fight "a war without a plan to win the peace."


This comment made me realize what ametuers the Bush administration was. You'd think that professionals would have had a plan-B in case everything went wrong. Makes me realize how good a Presidency we had with Clinton.

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I disagree. When you're trying to sell yourself, one of the most effective techniques is to let others do the selling. Let the crowd cheer their hearts out. It makes you seem a much better speaker.


Dunno about that. It makes you lose your momentum, which especially hurts in long speeches.


Not if you know how to use it. You should command the speech, don't let the speech command you.

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Good speech by Kerry, if not great. Enough to have done the job it needed to do. His delivery may not be Churchillian, but it's far, far better than Bush, who's an utterly inept speaker. The contrast will be striking.

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I guess none of you saw it on CNN. Go to www.drudgereport.com

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I don't have cable, I watched it on PBS.

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Shi, I saw it on CNBC, but changed to CNN when they stopped showing it after Kerry's speech. The guy who ordered more balloons and said the f-word was priceless

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For those who didn't watch the speech, or didn't get what points were made, here they are:
I'm sorry but I'd like specifics on how he plans to do that rather than just platitudes. It's the reason I didn't watch the DNC and I won't watch the RNC.

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I guess none of you saw it on CNN. Go to www.drudgereport.com


I saw and heard that...and knew immediatly the far right would trumpet it to try to overshadow Kerry

It won't ****ing work

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I haven't watched a convention since '88. I dedided I wanted to see Kerry speak. I'll try and do the same for George, but it really pains me to even see him move, so I don't know if I'll be able to watch the whole thing.

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I saw and heard that...and knew immediatly the far right would trumpet it to try to overshadow Kerry

It won't ****ing work


*snicker*

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I guess none of you saw it on CNN. Go to www.drudgereport.com


who cares? god forbid someone says ****.

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OK, I just read the speech.


It's really really good.

But from listening to him, I had no idea.

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CNN is my source for news most of time, so yes, I did watch it on that channel.

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Interesting detail.. I went to visit both candidates websites, www.georgebush.com and www.johnkerry.com and they both concentrated on Kerry. Take a look yourself.

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That's not really surprising. Kerry just did something important.

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Interesting detail.. I went to visit both candidates websites, www.georgebush.com and www.johnkerry.com and they both concentrated on Kerry. Take a look yourself.


Ok. I read today that the Republicans were concentrating on Michael Moore, because Kerry was only saying, "hope is on the way."

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BALLOONGATE

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DNC CONVENTION DIRECTOR DON MISCHER AIRED ON CNN AS KERRY ENDS SPEECH, HEARD WORLDWIDE: 'No confetti. No confetti yet. Go balloons. Go balloons. More Ballons. All balloons. All balloons. Come on guys, let's move it! Jesus. We need more balloons. I want all balloons to go, goddamn! No confetti. No confetti. No confetti. I want more balloons. What's happening to the balloons? We need more balloons. We need all of them coming down! Balloons. Balloons. Balloons. What's happening! They're not coming down. All balloons. Where the hell! Nothing is falling. What the f*** are you guys doing up there? We want more balloons coming down. More balloons. More balloons'...

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I heard that too, ixnay . . . . . .

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That's not really surprising. Kerry just did something important.

It was that way before the convention too--for example, the Bush web video with the vague Hitler usage, the multiple negative anti-Kerry TV ads, the web site being full of Kerry before (to their credit, in the weeks after Ronald Reagan's passing, the Bush and GOP sites became memorials for the Gipper.)

I've been recieving the GOP e-mail newsletter for several weeks and there are consistently two dozen mentions and/or links of Kerry in every newsletter. It's difficult to even find where they talk about themselves.

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I missed Kerry's speech but my expectations are that it was underwhelming.


How come nobody talked about Al Sharpton's speech?

That was the BEST speech of the convention, nobody else CAME CLOSE.

"WE GONNA RIDE THAT DONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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I like talking about my crazy uncle, but some people don't.

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What are you talking about?

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I'm speaking in tongues.

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Anyway no matter what you think of Sharpton (I personally don't like him) his speech OWNED.

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Balloongate can be heard here.
http://www.wiredvideo.com/clips/av6/dnc.mp3

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I've been recieving the GOP e-mail newsletter for several weeks and there are consistently two dozen mentions and/or links of Kerry in every newsletter. It's difficult to even find where they talk about themselves.


Sounds like they're tearing a page from Canada's Liberals.

 
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