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Feb 2000
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Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
 good thing.
btw, obl will never take over 'country by country.' one country is the max, but we would never let them take it.
its like those idiotic 'stop the red spread' garbage, which follows that if thirdworld shitholes like Korea, Vietnam, Zaire, and Afghanistan go commie, so will all of western europe.
money talks, and bush is so well connected with saudi's that we would always have an open pipeline of oil. |
I was just saying what he wants. HeII in know we would never stand by and let him, but hey he scared the sh1t out of Spain and The PI. OH look at the problem he is causing in the PI, a Catholic country and he is trying to set up a Muslim State in their country.
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Comrade Tassadar
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The people and the government do learn and they do change. |
Perhaps temporarily, but not over the long term. There is a tendency to gravitate back towards what used to be.
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Sometimes it isn't what fits your definition of a right or wrong philosophy. |
If you believe that, why do you support invading Iraq? Or do you support invading Iraq?
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I daresay that would be the case in any event...it's a consequence of having power. |
Yes, but if they resent you because you gave arms to people who slaughtered them, or you slaughtered them yourselves, or you overthrew their democracy, etc...Then perhaps you should look at your government and make sure it never happens again, as opposed to simply dismissing it as "Oh, well people will always hate us, so let's all just go home."
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atomant
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Aussie, no longer lost in Africa
Jul 2002
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The Strykers seem like pieces of junk They get blown to bits by a standard rpg round. Doesn't seem like much in the way of armour to me. |
August 14, 2004: A U.S. Army Stryker brigade stationed in the north of Iraq, around Mosul, for eight months now, has proved itself quite capable. The Stryker armored vehicles are controversial, as they are light armored vehicles that move via wheels, rather than tracks. The Strykers are also catching a lot of criticism for the usual problems a new combat vehicle encounters. The Stryker brigade equipment exchanged a lot of armor protection and heavy weapons for more electronics and communications equipment. The brigade has an initial version of the “battlefield Internet” that the army is slowly putting together. The action in and around Mosul is not as heavy as it is down around Baghdad. But there are heavily armed Baath party diehards and al Qaeda terrorists up in Mosul. The Stryker brigade has seen a lot of action, some of it quite heavy. It was thought that the Strykers would be very vulnerable to RPGs, but only two vehicles have been lost that way so far. In some actions, platoons (four vehicles) of Strykers had dozens of RPGs fired at them with no serious damage. The protection on the Strykers has been up to the job, but the troops, and hostile Iraqis, have also noted that the Strykers are faster, and quieter, than armored vehicles. This turns out to be a battlefield advantage, something American troops had forgotten about. The last large scale use of wheeled armored vehicles by American troops was in World War II. Some of the details of how those vehicles could be used had apparently been forgotten. A wheeled armored vehicle can more quickly move out of an ambush, or any other kind of trouble. Wheeled armored vehicles also make a lot less noise. The “track laying system” is inherently noisy, wheel’s are not. Strykers can sneak up on the bad guys, an M-2 Bradley or M-1 tank cannot.
The troops in the Stryker Brigade are trained to same high standards of all American infantry, which means soldiers capable of operating at high speed. The Stryker brigade has a new communications system that allows for speedier operations. Whether it’s getting out of an ambush, or getting into position for a raid or attack, the extra speed leaves the enemy at a disadvantage.
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Ted Striker
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Jan 1970
time: 21:35
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Originally posted by atomant
August 14, 2004: A U.S. Army Stryker brigade stationed in the north of Iraq, around Mosul, for eight months now, has proved itself quite capable. The Stryker armored vehicles are controversial, as they are light armored vehicles that move via wheels, rather than tracks. The Strykers are also catching a lot of criticism for the usual problems a new combat vehicle encounters. The Stryker brigade equipment exchanged a lot of armor protection and heavy weapons for more electronics and communications equipment. The brigade has an initial version of the “battlefield Internet” that the army is slowly putting together. The action in and around Mosul is not as heavy as it is down around Baghdad. But there are heavily armed Baath party diehards and al Qaeda terrorists up in Mosul. The Stryker brigade has seen a lot of action, some of it quite heavy. It was thought that the Strykers would be very vulnerable to RPGs, but only two vehicles have been lost that way so far. In some actions, platoons (four vehicles) of Strykers had dozens of RPGs fired at them with no serious damage. The protection on the Strykers has been up to the job, but the troops, and hostile Iraqis, have also noted that the Strykers are faster, and quieter, than armored vehicles. This turns out to be a battlefield advantage, something American troops had forgotten about. The last large scale use of wheeled armored vehicles by American troops was in World War II. Some of the details of how those vehicles could be used had apparently been forgotten. A wheeled armored vehicle can more quickly move out of an ambush, or any other kind of trouble. Wheeled armored vehicles also make a lot less noise. The “track laying system” is inherently noisy, wheel’s are not. Strykers can sneak up on the bad guys, an M-2 Bradley or M-1 tank cannot.
The troops in the Stryker Brigade are trained to same high standards of all American infantry, which means soldiers capable of operating at high speed. The Stryker brigade has a new communications system that allows for speedier operations. Whether it’s getting out of an ambush, or getting into position for a raid or attack, the extra speed leaves the enemy at a disadvantage. |
I think they are a good choice for the peacekeeping stage the troops are in. Big noisy slow to start armor doesn't make as much sense.
Though I hope they will research why the RPG's disable those 2 that got hit.
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