10-03-2005 10:12									#271
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Turn played and sent.

At the news of the fall of the Hive, streets of Angel bases were full with celebrating people praising their Altantean brothers. As for members of RAF stationed at the Spot, their mugs were kept full to the brim by ever-flowing xenofungal ale paid by apprective Angel citizens.

	10-03-2005 18:07									#272
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Turn played and forwarded in a few minutes (went to see the forum first)

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Internal Memo, Military HQ at New Atlantis - MY 2203.1003

Recently a fluctuation in battle performance has been noted
in the RAF squadron based at The Spot. Every time after a
significant Atlantean military victory whereever on Planet there
is a severe dip in the efficiciency of their actions.

We recommend sending a higher officer in charge (with subsequent
military escort) to investigate the situation.

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Broadcast from the Human Rights League, Elevea Shelf

We are worried about recent occurences in the Nautilus Empire.
The last few years a high amount of abuses at POW's is noted
within the faction, and recently news came in that Cpt. Sankis
has ordered human shields to be stationed at bases at risk
for being taken by their adversaries, the Gaians.

This tendency is, next to offensive to our beliefs, a dark sign on
how deep a faction can fall during the stresses of war.

Our lobby has started a campaign to make the larger population
of our Kingdom aware of the situation and with this support in
due time to force our government and the Crown to take
political action abroad and in the Planetary Council.

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	10-03-2005 18:49									#273
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder ************************************************** Internal Memo, Military HQ at New Atlantis - MY 2203.1003 Recently a fluctuation in battle performance has been noted in the RAF squadron based at The Spot. Every time after a significant Atlantean military victory whereever on Planet there is a severe dip in the efficiciency of their actions. We recommend sending a higher officer in charge (with subsequent military escort) to investigate the situation. **************************************************

damn those pesky hangovers eh?

	11-03-2005 00:49									#274
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Nothing from Rubin yet?

Well, in case it's a hotmail slowdown again:

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	11-03-2005 18:15									#275
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2204 to the Pirate.

Gaian defenses have been broken and Deirdre's offensive capabilities are extremely limited as University interceptors shot down Gaian aircraft this year.

Also, University aircraft finally secured the eastern border near the Manifold Nexus. Doctor Rubin still hopes for a diplomatic solution to the Peacekeeper/University conflict.

The University is puzzled by the Atlantean diplomatic cooldown towards the Nautilus Empire.

	11-03-2005 21:08									#276
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I guess this 'cooldown' will easily be solved once the Gaian faction doesn't exist anymore...
Keep conquering in a humanitarian way please!

* GeoModder waves a 'nowar' flag.

	12-03-2005 01:23									#277
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The turn has been passed to the Data Angels

Nautilus Officals announce today that several captive gaians are being returned to their homeland.

	12-03-2005 02:00									#278
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Way on!!!

	12-03-2005 13:12									#279
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sent

	12-03-2005 16:17									#280
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Sent.

Planet just became a little bit wetter.

	12-03-2005 22:56									#281
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2205 to the Pirate.

Lady Deirdre refuses to discuss diplomatic matters; instead she launched a miserable bombing run against University infrastructure. No Gaian survivors.

Brother Lal is silent as well. University aircraft continue to prevent Peacekeeper offensives. A diplomat has been dispatched to end the conflict. Meanwhile, Lal has almost completed the Neural Amplifier.

Doctor Rubin is amazed at the strategic Atlantean terraforming near the former Hive headquarters.

Finally, the Nautilus Empire has contributed important research files to University scientists. No further comments on these matters at the moment.

	12-03-2005 23:16									#282
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quote: Originally posted by Rubin Lady Deirdre refuses to discuss diplomatic matters; instead she launched a miserable bombing run against University infrastructure. No Gaian survivors.

Someone seemed to have put a price on your head, she reports me to have accepted payment for your destruction so won't pledge truce.

quote: Originally posted by Rubin Doctor Rubin is amazed at the strategic Atlantean terraforming near the former Hive headquarters.

Well, I do have to keep a promise regarding securing my databases, and this seemed the surest way.

Off topic: Rubin, did you ever had it in a game that a monolith was 'drowned' and could be used? Hadn't expected that.

	13-03-2005 00:56									#283
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2205 to the Data Angels!
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Tensions rise between Chairman Yang and Captain Sankis! How long can these two remain allies?

The brave Nautilus Marine corp establishes a foothold on Gaian Isle! Captured Gaians being transferred to their homeland.

	13-03-2005 21:08									#284
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Ahh messed up my turn

Sent.

	13-03-2005 21:25									#285
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Let's see if I can save it.

	13-03-2005 22:03									#286
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Mmm, it costed me a 'chopper worth 131 energy, but Alphaville has switched production.

't Was a suicide run thus.

	14-03-2005 01:22									#287
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Turn played and forwarded... Sankis, be adviced there's a greenminded probe cruiser running around!

Rubin, are you preparing special 'accomodation' for Lal after his capture or what?

Barinthus, I prepared the way, but you must do it (correctly!).

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Military HQ reports another Hive base freed from oppression *yawn*

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	14-03-2005 02:09									#288
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quote: Originally posted by Sankis The brave Nautilus Marine corp establishes a foothold on Gaian Isle! Captured Gaians being transferred to their homeland.

Wait a second, you're saying that those human shields are in the bridgehead awaiting the impact guns of their brethern?

	14-03-2005 02:36									#289
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The Altantean courage continues to antonish me. Surely the blogs of Angels will be filled with praises for centuries to come

	14-03-2005 02:41									#290
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Just don't let that courage be spent for nothing...

Atlantis does not think light of it's heroes!

	14-03-2005 07:05									#291
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Wait a second, you're saying that those human shields are in the bridgehead awaiting the impact guns of their brethern?

I never specified what would happen to the prisoners when they were transferred back home!

I'm also going to find that probe, even if it means sacraficing a damned plane!

	14-03-2005 18:49									#292
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2206 to the Pirates.

I believe Monoliths remain even is terraforming lowers the squares to below sea level.

University Headlines:
For the first time in half a century, Brother Lal has agreed to reopen the diplomatic channels. University diplomats were able to procure a truce.
University citizens have been notified of imminent changes in social structure.
Gaian aircraft breaches University defenses and detroys military and civilian personel.
The Planetary Governor hopes for a swift recapture of former Angel bases and suggests to persuade Yang into signing a truce.

	14-03-2005 22:37									#293
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quote: Originally posted by Sankis I'm also going to find that probe, even if it means sacraficing a damned plane!

Feww, for a second I thought you were saying 'sacrifying a damned planet'

	14-03-2005 22:46									#294
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quote: Originally posted by Rubin I believe Monoliths remain even is terraforming lowers the squares to below sea level.

Yes, I discussed this with the GM and he confirms this. Even to a low ocean level it remains IIRC.

quote: Originally posted by Rubin University Headlines: Gaian aircraft breaches University defenses and detroys military and civilian personel. The Planetary Governor hopes for a swift recapture of former Angel bases and suggests to persuade Yang into signing a truce.

Now that the Hive-Angel front is stabilizing, does the Planetary Governor calls for 'persuasion' of Atlantean diplomacy towards the Gaians to end this war? Or should the Nautilus Empire be asked to settle for a truce?

It is the Atlantean view that it would not be wise to sign a truce with Chairman Yang until he has formally recognized the territorial integrity of the Data Angels and has payed an appropriate price for the sufferings done to Angel citizens in the still occupied territory.

	14-03-2005 23:27									#295
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Or should the Nautilus Empire be asked to settle for a truce?

Ok, now you're just talking crazy

Will be on the turn when I get home in ... 2 hours.

	15-03-2005 02:44									#296
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Turn played and sent!

Question though. I remember one of the rules being extortion of the AI, mainly the asking for their bases or exchanging bases. if the AI offers you a base as part of a treaty, does that fall under the rule?
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After nearly a decade, Crow's Nest is once again a sea colony! Citizens rejoice!

The Gaian Capital of Gaia's Landing has been captured by the brave Nautilus marine corp! Gaian leader Diedre begs forgiveness, is denied.

	15-03-2005 03:40									#297
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quote: Originally posted by Sankis Question though. I remember one of the rules being extortion of the AI, mainly the asking for their bases or exchanging bases. if the AI offers you a base as part of a treaty, does that fall under the rule?

You can download rules for this game in the first post, where link is provided.

§ 16. AI Base Exchange

(1) You are not allowed to trade bases with the AI. That is, trading one of your bases for an AI base.

(2) You may offer bases as gifts ('a token of your gratitude') to the AI.

(3) Extortion of the AI is allowed, i.e. demanding that the AI transfers control of a base to your faction.

The way I understand this point is that one single option is not allowed, namely base for a base trading. Rubin you are the author of this ruleset and we should hear also your oppinion here.
The point I mean is the last choice in the screenie where there are seven choices:
"I shal turn over one of my bases to you"

The reason for this rule is I believe that AI has completely no "brain" in this form of trading. In one of my singleplayer games I checked that - and asked Morgan (AI player) for Morgan Construction - base shown on the screenie, having two 1-3r-1 units in it.

1 - my goodwill.... failed. Morgan did not want to do it. this would be asking for a gift. Is this extortion?

2 - you need but name your price, CEO. It was 3412 EC. With my +185 EC/turn and like 250 EC in banks it was out of question for me.

3 - I shall cancel brotherhood Pact - he laughed at me and for me this falls under term extortion...

4 - research - I had nothing at the moment...

5 - modest sum - around like 3412 or so...

6 - I shall turn over one of my bases, and here this choice is prohibited. Imagine that Morgan gave me that base of size 6 with all these buildings for some small, probably strategically unimportant for him base of size 2 having police scout in it and nothing more but recycling tanks.

So as I understand AI is only stupid in this last point. All other were ok for me, unless research maybe. Would some technology be worth of such a base? (Manifold Nexus included in its radius) some I guess yes, other would not be worth. Unfortunately, I have no good experience here. Rubin, what is your oppinion on this issue.

	15-03-2005 03:46									#298
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But regarding an AI giving you a base for signing a peacy treaty with it, I think it is ok.

	15-03-2005 04:01									#299
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Ah, I must have read the rules wrong. I had thought it said "Extortion of the AI is NOT allowed"

	15-03-2005 04:11									#300
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I checked some other turn, where I could give Morgan 2 techs or maybe even more. He did not want to trade that size 6 and also even some small size 2.
Looks like here the AI is ok.
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Edit:

Out of curiosity I checked what would be the cost of mindprobe operation:
buying from Morgan: 3412 EC
mindprobing it: 2412 EC

strangely exactly buying costs 1000 EC more. I think it is ok. I haven't estimated that, but 3412 EC seems to cover like cost of all facilities when rushed for reasonable price and those two plasma units. more or less.

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