15-03-2005 05:07									#301
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So... you're bent on taking all the Gaian territory then, Sankis?

	15-03-2005 06:43									#302
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder So... you're bent on taking all the Gaian territory then, Sankis?

If I don't take it all, then I'll atleast take some and terraform it so it's seperated from the rest of the gaian isle.

	15-03-2005 08:43									#303
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I could do that way quicker for you!! (for an appropriate price of course )

	15-03-2005 10:08									#304
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All over in the nation of Data Angels, Talents and Drones alike stood completely drawn into the special report being aired across all available channels.

It was coming in live, every sight and sound unbarred. Could it be happening? A squad of Raphael needlejets roared across rocky xenofungal plains and emptied their armaments against a sensor defensive grid system that was erected by Angels themselves decades ago. They looked in amazement as squadrons of Michael attack choppers unleashed their righteous fury upon Hivean defenders in Society Grid base. Despite the furious barrage from Hivean perimeter defenses, the military intergity of Hivean defending units was utterly destroyed leaving behind isolated bands of desperate survivors whom offered only scare resistence to Angels missile rovers screaming down streets of the base.

At last significant victory has been won against the Human Hive! Angels rejoiced as they watch the Hive insigna simmering before vanishing and reforming into Angels' own and the base renamed to its rightful name - Alphaville.

Whispers everywhere predict that Newer Ciba City will be once again Angels....

...alas not all news were good that day of the great victory. Due to years of severe oppression by their Hivean occupators, citizens of Alphaville took this opportunity to wreak their revenge upon Hivean survivors.

The Council of Guardians has anticipated this and issued an order to all military units to intervene and prevent any atriocities against Hiveans captured. At the highest tier of the Angel society, they are determined not to lower themselves to the level of Human Hive by commiting such terrible crimes that the Hive commited against their people. Instead, they will receive fair trials and be punished accordingly.

Once the wishes of the Council was made to residents of Alphaville (sometimes at the end of gunpoints by Angel troops), they often disperse allowing troops to take prisoners into their custody. Unfortunately those of more stubborn persistence would not cooperate and soldiers had to intervene using force leaving behind some civilian dead. This left bitter taste in their mouths - they had recently liberated the base only to have killed some of their own people to save some Hive scum from what they probably rightfully deserved.

(In case it's not apparent, turn played and sent! )

	15-03-2005 21:12									#305
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Will the person who 'persuaded' Yang to sign a Peace Treaty with the Atlanteans please explain his reasons?

	15-03-2005 22:24									#306
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It is getting weirder: 3 bases have lost their starting minerals while I had hurried their production or which production should be finished now but who suddenly seem short of 2 or so minerals.

Mart, do you still have the save I sent you for the seamonolith? Could you mail it to me please. I like to compare it with my endsave here.

Edit:

Mmm, there was an artillery duel between one of my ships and a Hive artillery unit, or at least there was such a message, so the Peace Treaty was 'signed' after the Hive turn.

Last edited by GeoModder on 16-03-2005 at 06:49

	16-03-2005 06:47									#307
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Thanks Mart, but I forgot that turn was from the year before.

Played and forwarded.

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RBC, Neptune Bottom - MY 2206.1603

HQ has released the picture below to the public. According to
Naval Reconnaisance it appears that a second marine task force
is on it's way towards the Gaian isle. Speculations whether
it's course will lead to the previous Nautilus captured base
Captains' Fury or further east is still not clear at present.

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	16-03-2005 06:55									#308
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Will the person who 'persuaded' Yang to sign a Peace Treaty with the Atlanteans please explain his reasons?

Oh crap. I may have done that. I opened a com with Yang for something, then when I was done I opened that window to see who he was at war with (Did you know he's at war with the PK? Is this recent or am I just dumb) I hit enter instead of clicking on cancel. I didn't pay attention to the text afterwards, since I just figured it was another "Democracy is evil!" thing he does. Sorry Did you lose anything due to this? If so i'll send some credits your way or something.
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Nautilus Officals have no comment on the transport, however they are curious as to why there is an atlantean ship in their waters.

	16-03-2005 18:36									#309
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quote: Originally posted by Sankis Nautilus Officals have no comment on the transport, however they are curious as to why there is an atlantean ship in their waters.

The Atlantean diplomats wish to assure Cpt. Sankis that no Atlantean vessels are closer to Nautilus waters then to Gaian waters, so technically we're still outside your territory.

Also, note that there never was a definite agreement on the Empire's eastern borders to date. Perhaps it is time after all to discuss this issue, especially in light with the rapidly growing size of land acquisitions within the Nautilus faction.

	16-03-2005 20:29									#310
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2207 to the Pirates.

I should believe that base trading is allowed except for trading a base for a base. You are free to donate bases to the AI and, I should think, demand a base from an AI for free.

	17-03-2005 02:38									#311
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Turn 2207 to the Data Angels.
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The cities of Garden of the Deep, Captain's Fury, Razorbeak Wood, and Silverbird Park have been captured by the brave forces of the Nautilus Empire. The back of the Gaian Resistance has been broken! Nautilus Officals estimate that a complete victory will be obtainable in the five years.

	17-03-2005 02:41									#312
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Couldn't attach the file in a mail for some reason so here it is.

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	17-03-2005 10:41									#313
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HoA is now back in Angels' hands.

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	18-03-2005 06:14									#314
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2207 is played and forwarded!

Reload warning:
I first opened the turn in a modded version of SMAC, so wouldn't want to take the risk that things were changed.

Then when I reopened in the vanilla version, I had a fungal pop + native life that had to be taken care off. Thus I reloaded again for this pop gave me an extra free pollution mineral in my bases and the destroying of native life would give me too much extra energy, not to mention a most likely upgrade for the 'chopper(s) who needed to intercept those native lifeforms.

Third opening was like the first one as far as I could see, so no benefits were reaped from this.

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Royal Demographic Department, Neptune Bottom - MY 2207.1803

The Kingdom has this year reached the one millionth citizen born
from Atlantean parents. Even without the Cloning Project and
the former Hive citizens within our faction our population level
would have been in excess of this number.

This makes us the second faction on Planet to round this cape.

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	18-03-2005 11:51									#315
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2208 to the Pirates.

University research rate increased...

	19-03-2005 02:03									#316
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Turn to the Angels.

The surviving gaians have been holed up in a single city. Their leader ,Diedre Sky, is believed to be inside as well. Total destruction of the Gaians expected next turn.

Nautilus Officals also note the strategic placement of the latest gaian colony.

	19-03-2005 05:31									#317
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Mmm, did the Gaians establish a colony? Or do you mean the latest Atlantean base?

O yes, since about a century the whole of Abyss Ocean and the entrance of Gaian strait are wellknown as Atlantean territorial waters, with the exception of shelf coastal waters. The Queen hopes Cpt. Sankis still realises this.

Also, a territorial claim is put on Gwynn Isle as western border of the Kingdom.

	19-03-2005 09:23									#318
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Everything's same on the Angels

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	19-03-2005 09:38									#319
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Mmm, did the Gaians establish a colony? Or do you mean the latest Atlantean base? O yes, since about a century the whole of Abyss Ocean and the entrance of Gaian strait are wellknown as Atlantean territorial waters, with the exception of shelf coastal waters. The Queen hopes Cpt. Sankis still realises this. Also, a territorial claim is put on Gwynn Isle as western border of the Kingdom.

Well known? You did not have a colony in proximity to this island until the Gaian Island was captured, nor did you dispute my landmark claim, which was there for several decades, until you placed your colony.

The Nautilus Empire refuses to acknowledge this unjust claim.

	19-03-2005 20:16									#320
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quote: Originally posted by Sankis Well known? You did not have a colony in proximity to this island until the Gaian Island was captured, nor did you dispute my landmark claim, which was there for several decades, until you placed your colony. The Nautilus Empire refuses to acknowledge this unjust claim.

The 'well known' remark refers to the Abyss Ocean and Gaian Strait landmark, not Gwynn Isle.

My base next to Gwynn Isle was established before the Pirate conquest of the Gaian Isle was established.

Your map label was void the moment the Gaians established a base between your territory and this map label, and certainly the moment my faction was able to rename this area.

Also, the Atlantean faction did not claim this particular labeled tile, but the isle next to it. We consider this sector and adjacent seatiles as a borderline similar as we established earlier regarding the Nautilus western border. Our factions do have a 'neutral' zone there which is not be settled, and such does the Atlantean Kingdom regards the Atlangnau area as well.

	20-03-2005 01:37									#321
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Handfull of drones , Empathi , Thinkers and Engineers forwarded to the Ivory Tower Intelle...University!

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Gaelic Tale, MY 2208.2003

It was a sight seldom witnessed within the Kingdom, but the last
few weeks it had happened. Displaced workers assembling at
the public areas and uprising surface tower of Gaelic Tale and
shouting their demands.
It could easily have been avoided, and appeasing their grieves
proved not to be too difficult, but nevertheless the government
decided to change the Kingdoms' economy towards a more
environmental friendly one and increased the number of empathic
councillors and economic advisors throughout the faction.
Even the core of scientists was not overseen by silent support
of the Crown in changing research prodedures to their example
the University of Planet.

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Atlantean High Command wonders about the latest Nautilus tactic of leaving freshly conquered bases open to counterattacks (by the Gaians).
Is Cpt. Sankis after all perhaps not prepared to challenge the Kingdoms' territorial claims?

	20-03-2005 20:03									#322
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2209 to the Pirates.

A horribly commanded aerial assault on Vale of Winds caused 4 University aircraft to be lost in the conflict. One aircraft even crashed before reaching the Gaian base.

For the first time since Planetfall, Brother Lal seems to have regained his sanity. The University is proud to announce the first Treaty of Friendship with the Peacekeepers. The strive for peace on Chiron seems one step closer to fulfillment!

Finally, the Planetary Governor carefully monitors the escalating conflict between the Nautilus Empire and the Atlantean Kingdom.

	20-03-2005 23:34									#323
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Turn 2209 to the Angels.
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The last bastion of the Gaian resistance fell today by the Nautilus 129th Rover Squadron. Light casualties were taken on the side of the Empire. Hiding inside a civilian home was Lady Deidre Sky, former leader of the Gaian Resistance. She has been taken in for questioning.

At home, Civilians everywhere celebrate the war's end. Chairman Yang of the Hive spoke with Captain Sankis earlier today to congratulate him in his defeat over the Gaian scourge.

In other news the Nautilus QRU has been retired. All those that served in the QRU have been awarded medals of valor.

Several atlantean probe units have been spotted on the "Atlantean/Nautlius border" as well as the Gaian Coast. Captain Sankis wishes the Atlanteans to know that if any such unit enters Nautilus Terrority it will be destroyed.

	21-03-2005 00:47									#324
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Out of curiosity, did the Gaians take Garden of the Deep before you took the last Gaian landbase, Sankis?

I saw they had the possibility before your turn came, since there was a Gaian IoD near that seabase.

I'm asking this question to have a better understanding of how the AI reacts.

On topic:

quote: Originally posted by Rubin Finally, the Planetary Governor carefully monitors the escalating conflict between the Nautilus Empire and the Atlantean Kingdom.

Dear Governor, a conflict indicates violent actions between our factions, something that has not occured yet till this very day as far as Atlantis is aware of.

Further more, the Queen wishes to point out to the Planetary Governor that it was never the Atlanteans which posted threads of utter destruction towards other factions, not even in the bleakest days of the Hive-Angel war. Cpt. Sankis on the other hand seems to response to the Kingdoms' rightfull naval movements within their own territory with undisguised suspicion and fear.

The psychological profile of the Captain indicates that he had followed this pattern of challenge and threats prior to the escalation of the Gaian-Nautilus war. It was confirmed that a probe action ordered by the Captain started the war, not agression on the side of the Gaians. Will the Governor silently assist the Empire again in such a provocation?

	21-03-2005 03:24									#325
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Out of curiosity, did the Gaians take Garden of the Deep before you took the last Gaian landbase, Sankis? I saw they had the possibility before your turn came, since there was a Gaian IoD near that seabase. I'm asking this question to have a better understanding of how the AI reacts.

Nope, actually It didn't. The city was empty, and remained untouched. I ended up killing the IOD, which is why you'll see a nearly destroyed jet on your border.

	21-03-2005 04:34									#326
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OOC here... I would like to ask everybody to think on the following issue:

I feel that it should be prohibited for a human player to 'force' a truce or whatever between two warring factions (AI vs human). Exceptations would be if the warring human player asked for such assistance.

Are we in agreement?

	21-03-2005 05:33									#327
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus Are we in agreement?

We are, and except for one accident this hasn't happened as far as I know.

quote: Originally posted by Sankis Nope, actually It didn't. The city was empty, and remained untouched. I ended up killing the IOD, which is why you'll see a nearly destroyed jet on your border.

Ah, that's why you are so worried about my fleet strength on the border... You spotted one and decided to check out where-ever you could.

	21-03-2005 08:17									#328
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder We are, and except for one accident this hasn't happened as far as I know.

Actually it happened at least twice as of I know

	21-03-2005 10:40									#329
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I only remember Sankis lately on me. When else did it happen?

	21-03-2005 18:47									#330
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus OOC here... I would like to ask everybody to think on the following issue: I feel that it should be prohibited for a human player to 'force' a truce or whatever between two warring factions (AI vs human). Exceptations would be if the warring human player asked for such assistance. Are we in agreement?

I am strongly against such prohibitions.

I have only asked Lal to sign a truce with Yang and I wouldn't try to force a truce between the AI and a human player unless the human player concurs... at least considering the situation in the game currently.

So, Barinthus, you should fear nothing from the University regarding the "truce" issue--unless the planetary situation changes drastically.