02-09-2004 22:16									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Illuminatus Seconded. Also too valuable for now - it gives us naval supremacy for now.

......Naval Supremacy. The engineer who came up with the self-inflating Unity Raft will have a good time with that one...

	02-09-2004 22:19									#92
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So that's decided - 3 votes out from 4 active players against "Foil to North" and 1 vote for it!

	02-09-2004 22:24									#93
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quote: Originally posted by smacksim ......Naval Supremacy. The engineer who came up with the self-inflating Unity Raft will have a good time with that one...

We are can traverse the sea and transport units, Angels can't . Sound like kind of supremacy to me . Until someone comes up with Iods/Gunships or that sort.

	02-09-2004 22:34									#94
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One question - there is a probe near our Unity Rover - there is great possibility that probe has encountered Unity Rover -perhaps even subverted it. Question is, what if they subvert it (although highly unlikely). Also I checked presend - there was a treaty proposed and alleged message sent to turn player - why is this nowhere mentioned, even in the turn reports? I wondered about this for some time.

	02-09-2004 23:41									#95
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I forgot to mention that in the turn report, though I have now posted about it in the diplo contact thread. I guess I figured the discussion in the diplo contact thread was sufficient.

If we do not send our foil north, where do we send it?

Based on the message back from the Angels, they probably found our rover, but very likely did not subvert it. That would be a pretty hostile action anyway, and an entirely unnecessary one, given the proposal to treaty.

	03-09-2004 01:12									#96
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Perhaps the Foil could transport one of units to the shore north we discovered? It would certainly speed up our discovery of Yang.

	03-09-2004 02:47									#97
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I can't open the picture with Paint, and my Photochop is currently down. But anyways, we might want to take a look at where to move our northern forces. Anyone care to make some arrows and or plans?

	03-09-2004 05:25									#98
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The turn could come any time. Does anyone have any opinions about the northern units?

My suggestions:

Try to move the probe team through the fungus, if a worm, kill with our worm, if not, move our worm onto rocky river to chase the wild one down.

Other, younger worm, pop the pod to the far north.

Rover board unity foil.

That leaves two open ground pods unpopped, but I figure we can bring the worms around to get them after checking our northern border. Also, I'd prefer sending a worm over the water, but the rover is in position now. We could take 2 turns and get the younger worm in position, which is fine with me too.

It's pod city up there. What a bonanza.

	04-09-2004 06:37									#99
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Turn is in.

	04-09-2004 12:51									#100
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I'm going to sleep pretty soon, and then I'll be out for the weekend. Besides, we need to figure out what to do in Angel territory. I say we batter down the fungal tower, take the pod, then retrieve our units. As far as diplomatic communication, I like to keep it to a minimum, both in length and in actual information content.

	05-09-2004 04:43									#101
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I can play the turn anytime. It looks like we are waiting for a decision r/e a diplomatic statement. If Octavian writes something up, I think we are ready to go.... I take it we've been sending diplomacy through PMs to GeoModder? I will wait till I hear about the diplomacy from at least Octavian or Illuminatus. Everyone else, please make suggestions r/e the turn. There is a time limit.

	05-09-2004 13:22									#102
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Seems Octavian is nowhere to be seen. Okay, I can write something up - but we meed to agree what to exactly do in Angel teritory then? Also, what do we really want to send Angels - Okay, we will withdraw ourselves, blah, blah. We can't pop the pod this turn anyway, but we could move units so they are ready to pop the pod next turn.

	05-09-2004 14:21									#103
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And we have about 14 hours to do everything . I am not even sure we have agreed on anything - Unity Rover being loaded and transported by Unity Foil sounds good. But what with the rover and MWs in north - I see no proposal where to move them - I guess smacksims idea is then alright? Also, we have enough credits to hurry a thing or two - are we saving or not? If not why not hurry a thing or two? I guess rover in Angel teritory should go along the river then north on rocky square - Spore Launcher - SE then E? C'mmon people, we got job to do, and so little time!

	05-09-2004 15:30									#104
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We have a policy for rushing things, ie, our probe teams....see CT's posts about that over the last few turns. We rush for last row or last 2 rows (possibly, if rich). We do have 1 turn to decide how to move our units in Angel territory. Suggest minimal message with a note saying "team on vacation, will be more detailed next time" or something. I have to get to sleep now. Play the turn if you like, Illuminatus. I'll be back in 10 hours....

-Smack

	05-09-2004 16:23									#105
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Still need some things to be discussed.I can see four formers that will need additional orders-one north of DoG, two betwwen FT and TFP, and one that will finnish clearing the fungus. First three need orders, while the last one can start the road I guess.

	05-09-2004 16:43									#106
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Partially played turn - I did not hurry or touch formers (except the obvious build road movement). Probe moved north to fungus, MW NE on the river - no sign of rogue mindworm. YOungest MW poped the pod - producing a MW . Captura attempt failed too, but we got a couple of more EC. Oh, with last quarter of movement the youngest MW was moved north revealing end of fungus and some rainy squares. Rover boarded Unity Foil. SL moved along the river to the east. Unity Rover in NewMuirland moved along the river then north. Spore launcher mover SE than E (yes, the fungul tower spawned a fungus square making this possible) - revelaing that fungal tower now has at least three surrounding fungus squares. Of things to do is - hurry production, designate orders for formers and decide what we SL in Angel teritory. Oh and smacksim please tell me what do you seee when you open the SE settings. Every time I open the SE panel the settings show that we are in simple economy and clicking on planned shows refund- +24 credits but no changes. When I close the SE and open it again we are again on simple economics. Am I nuts or is this some kind of bug? Are we in planned or not?

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	05-09-2004 16:55									#107
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This is what I am talking about - when I open the SE panel it looks like this:

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	05-09-2004 16:58									#108
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This is what happens when I click on planned.

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	05-09-2004 17:01									#109
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Now notice our credits:

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	05-09-2004 17:03									#110
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I open the SE panel again:

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	05-09-2004 17:06									#111
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I do nto cahnge anything and look at our credits:

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	05-09-2004 17:08									#112
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So I need someone to look at partially palyed turn and tell me if they are experiencing the same thing, and if we are in planned and what are our total credits.

	05-09-2004 23:50									#113
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That sounds very strange. I'll check it out. Formers were to build roads and clear a path to uranium flats and other areas of expansion, along with starting a few forests. I think we might particularly want to clear some pathways to the ruins, which means moving a defender over there in case of worms. All the more reason to see if we can get the angels to bump our explorer crew home without using the foil. The foil will be busy with the rover and then probe team and then probably a worm....

I'll check the turn and the SE settings.

-Smack

	06-09-2004 00:06									#114
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Played the turn. Did not encounter any SE problems like you mention. It sounds also like the game thinks you are at another difficulty level '24 ECs' == Thinker, I think. Here's a screen of my SE switching. It came up as Planned, which I'll need to switch back to at end of turn (Don't Forget to Do This if you play my presend save!)

I realize that if we use my turn we've played part of the turn twice, but your turn seems corrupted, or your version of SMAX. There is nothing else we could have done. I hope the Gods will accept this! I'll upload the presend to the proper thread and upload more pictures to the 2135 thread. In an hour I'll post the turn to the ACDG if we are o.k. with this....

-Smack

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	06-09-2004 00:22									#115
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Turn Report for 2134 (see the turn thread for text) Here are pictures from my playing of the turn. I'm going to upload to the ACDG now.

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	06-09-2004 00:22									#116
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Northern Units

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	06-09-2004 00:23									#117
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Angel Land

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	06-09-2004 00:23									#118
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Production:

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	06-09-2004 00:25									#119
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Like I said, I'm going to finish the turn now and upload. We are too close to the deadline to try to fix your bug Illuminatus. You'd better do a re-install or at least trash your alphacentauri.ini file and see if you can fix it that way....

-Smack

Oh, could you rename this thread 2134 and 2135? I've already uploaded the pictures here....

	06-09-2004 00:26									#120
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This is strange because a) I never play on thinker. Ermm Smacksim, how about using my partially played turn above and checking if it is corrupt? You haven't downloaded it yet, and this is border action at best.