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Kassiopeia
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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001
time: 07:21
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Originally posted by Googlie
Kass:
What are your thoughts on The Maniac Manifesto
(It'd entail quite a bit of work intiailly to-ing and fro-ing between the other 2 factions to make it work - that's why I suggested if you like that I could quarterback it as I have lots of time and your novel has a high priority on your time right now
Maniac likes it, and maybe it'd be appropriate for you to kick it off and then say something along the lines of If there is interest, details can be co-ordinated through Lt Col Googlie, our Chief of Administration That way you're still front and center in the diplomacy, but not tied up with the minutiae) |
I'm all up for it. Not only does it make my diplomatic nerve tingle (accomplishing it would be rather monumental, and indeed a two-man effort is certainly a requirement), and it would ensure that we can keep pace with the Angels and Gaians. We would also be able to surpass the Morganites, to boot, or at least stick on par with them. All the while we build up our Arsenal of Power.
Are we going to have a conquest during the completion of the Maniac Plan? Of any of the AI factions? This is not a crucial matter to me, but from an RPing aspect it'd be fun.
Re: splitting the load:
I can't tell for certain how much I'll be able to put into the DG in Nov - I will have the two forum games I'm hosting off my back in a few days, so they'll decrease my workload even further - but now in Nov, I think it'd be excellent if you could be able to handle the details of the co-operative effort. You are best versed in our strategy and current situation, "Chief of Administration" is definitely an apt title for you.
I'm thinking, pretty much in agreement with you, that I'll kick everything off, have a nifty pre(r)amble on the Morganite threat etc. explaining why we need to co-operate, and we will together try to get the Gaians and Angels to agree with us.
This would be the phase you'll start to take more and more of my workload in this matter off my back so I can concentrate on writing, and perchance handling Morganite diplomacy. That'll be an interesting effort in itself, should the Gaians and Angels give them a clue of what we're up to with them.
Even more so if you think you'll have the time! So yes, my "yea" as a senior junta member to the manifesto, and my "yea" to your proposal.
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Kassiopeia
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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001
time: 07:21
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I shall post this:
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The Maniac Manifesto - Fusion Power by 2160
"The Maniac Manifesto" is a plan for a joint venture of the Data Angels, the Gaian Union and the Spartan Federation. It is an effort to acquire the following prerequisite technologies for Fusion Power:
- Superconductor
- Pre-Sentient Algorithhms
- Advanced Military Algorithms
- Cyberethics
- Intellectual Integrity
- Optical Computers
- Adaptive Doctrine
- Polymorphic Software
And then finally:
- Fusion Power
This endeavour will require open, direct and frank co-operation between our three factions, with extensive research leapfrogging. The Junta believes that it is possible and conceivable.
The reason for this rather bold and open proposal is the fact that the Morganite faction is spiralling out of control. It has constructed Planetary Transit System and is in the process of effectively doubling or even tripling its population by abandoning and rebuilding bases to gain the boon the PTS gives. We can all attest to the fact that the Morganites are a force to be reckoned with, and the Spartans are willing to give up their slight lead in the tech race to level the playing field with the Morganites.
I have appointed the Spartan Chief of Administration, Lieutenant Colonel Googlie, to act as a special envoy on this matter: he will be conducting official diplomacy by my side, as we feel that one person alone can not organize this extraordinary project between three separate factions.
Yours sincerely, and awaiting for your response,
Major Kassiopeia, Senior Diplomatic Officer of the Junta of the Spartan Federation. |
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Googlie
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Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999
time: 21:21
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I posted a more detailed explanation as to how it might be possible:
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Posted by Googlie in the Embassy
To further elaborate:
Fusion has 2 prerequisites: Superconductor (string #1) and Pre Sentient Algorithms (string#2)
Yang will have researched Superconductor in 2154, so that technology can be "lifted" any time therafter
PSA needs Advanced Military Algorithms and Cyberethics
AMA needs Optical Computers (Yang has that) and Adaptive Doctrine, which in turn needs Polymorphic Software (Yang has that) and Doctrine Flexibility (Sparta has that)
So for the first string, we need:
1 probe action to extract Polysoft from Yang and then one of us researches Adaptive Doctrine
1 probe action to extract Opticals, then with AdaptDoc, research Advanced Military Algorithms, then wait for string # 2 to catch up
Cyberethics needs Planetary Networks (we all have that) and Intellectual Integrity, which needs Ethical Calculus (Sparta has that) and Doctrine Loyalty (can have next turn)
So the second string needs:
1 of us to research Int Int, then pass the baton to another who'll change to Cyberethics
Then AMA and Cyberethics get passed to the the team that will research Pre Sentient Algorithms, which, when completed, goes to the team that has received the probe fruits of Superconductor, who changes to Fusion Power
Thus in 14 years we are researching 6 techs among 3 factions (and 1 or more of those techs may be extractable from the Uni or PK's through probe action or trade).
With leapfrogging, it is attainable (even without assuming that the Gaian Union and Data Angels are able to maintain a faster research rate than the Spartan Federation)
How about it?
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Snoddasmannen
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What an outrageous proposal. Either there is something they are just not getting, or they are provocing us.
Perhaps it is time for Cpt. Snoddasmannen to be appointed chief diplomat to the Gaians? That would be a good way to break the treaty come the time.
Off to work now...
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Googlie
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Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999
time: 21:21
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The citizens of Sparta Command awoke to the sound of an army on the move.
Well, perhaps not an army, but certainly that of Alpha Platoon of the First Light Infantry as they left the confines of the small barracks beneath the Headquarters building, their boots rapping on the synthmetall pavement as they made their way to Module 13.
The young Lieutenant in the lead freqently referred to her wrist commlink as she gave the orders to her command.
They reached Module 13, where in the still morning air the two flags of the Gaian Union and the Spartan Federation hung limply. At her command, the Platoon split and the troopers rapidly deployed around the building. The Lieutenant brought her wrist to her face and muttered fresh orders into the commlink.
Beside her, a sapper ran up to the door, and planted the two halves of the electronic lock on either side, then activated the lock, A faint blue shimmering arced across the gap of the doorway as the lock engaged.
"Report", she muttered into the commlink.
"All secure," came the various replies. "Windows, emergency exits, trades entrances, even ventilation shafts. "
"Now what" the sapper asked.
"We wait for the Lieutenant Colonel" she replied.
Almost on cue, the staff car arrived, and out stepped Lieutenant-Colonel Googlie. He looked over the module, then nodded, and snapped off a crisp salute to the Lieutenant.
"Good work, Lieutenant. I see those years in the hospital haven't dulled your efficiency."
Lieutenant Rynn saluted in return. "Thank you, Sir. My stay was protracted, but I'm 100 percent now."
Googlie nodded. Many would be scarred for life upon escaping the massed mindworm attack on her Rolling Thunder Division some years ago, in the Battle of Taygetus Gap. But the Lieutenant was nothing if not a survivor. Her strength of will forced her to move away from the mindworms' psi-numbing powers, until she eventually made her way to Olympus Academy and safety, but badly injured, both physically and mentally.
Lt.-Col. Googlie walked up to the door, and at his command the lock was de-activated. He entered.
The Gaian Embassy staff - just a handful as Lord Illuminatus had been recalled for urgent Council meetings - were gathered in confusion.
The Lieutenant-Colonel spoke to them.
"You will pack your belongings and take your Embassy files and data crystals and vacate this Embassy. Transport is awaitng outside that will take you to Gythium Harbour, where a ship of our Pegasus fleet will transport you down through Hive waters to drop you off on your mainland.
This Embassy is closed."
He turned on his heels and left, as the frantic packing began.
Lieutenant Rynn turned to the Lt-Colonel; "And what of our staff in Gaia's Landing?"
He replied: "Major Kassiopeia returned last evening for a Junta meeting, and the rest can evacuate to the east coast where the SCC Invincible is waiting."
"How will they - and we - contact each other now?" she asked.
"The old fashioned way," he replied laconically. "By commlink to individual Junta members. If we answer, that is"
They relaxed for a few minutes by the door until the Gaian staffers emerged with boxes and files, to board the now-arrived transports for the journey south.
Lieutenant-Colonel Googlie waved an arm to the sapper, who reactivated the locks, then the Lieutenant-Colonel ceremoniously pinned the notice to the door:
The Gaian Embassy is closed indefinitely
By Executive Order of the Junta
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So whaddya think? Should I take the Embassy offline?
Last edited by Googlie on 09-11-2004 at 22:52
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Snoddasmannen
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Illuminatis has replied to my post:
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I see Snoddasmannen has been authorised to make diplomatic contacts, or Sparta shows it cannot control violent outbursts of it's members, again. Giving you Doctrine: Loyalty grants you a tech which enables you to build a project, and a second one in very near future, especially powerful for you, while we get technology that is not useful for us. This is not cooperation, this is gain, gain for Spartans, and far from fair trade. Note that Spartans refused to cooperate before, deciding not to trade technologies, notably Doctrine: Flexibility and Ethical Calculus to Gaians - this has been remembered by the High Council. If Spartans do not wish to make a fair offer, fine by High Council. We are not in need of Doctrine: Loyalty, and we get Social Psych next turn in any case.
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Do we close the embassy?
( I vote yes  )
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Googlie
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Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999
time: 21:21
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I posted the followign reply to Illuminatus:
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Posted by Googlie in the Embassy
Reply to : Illuminatus of Gaia
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I see Snoddasmannen has been authorised to make diplomatic contacts, or Sparta has lost grip on its members again.
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As Recording Officer to the Junta, Curator of the Museum, yadda, yadda etc, I can shed a little light on the Junta operations.
There are 2 distinct factions within our Junta, one of which is somewhat afraid of the lead that Morgan Industries appears to be generating (and as a result this faction - or "wing" - has favoured strong co-opration with the Gaian Union, and, if the Union's ties go deep, with the Data Angels as well). From this faction grew the Maniac Manifesto, the intent of which was to ensure that our 3 factions (Angels, Gaians and Sparta) would be sufficiently strong, togetehr, to offset the lead that Morgan Industries was building.
A second faction - or "wing" - believes that the way to proceed is to work closely with Morgan Industries, to set the stage so that either they can pursue an economic victory while at the same time the Federation proceeds to victory along the more conventional military and diplomatic route. There would be a degree of "May the best philosophy win", but it undeniably has its adherents within the Junta.
It is against this backdrop that the "Gaian wing", feeling emboldened and in the asendancy within the Junta, made its offers of technology co-operation.
The Union's rejection of our advances - or, to be more precise, the acceptance - subject to our agreeing to add unreasonable sweeteners to the transaction - have seriously diminshed the ability of the "Gaian wing" to argue cogently and coherently in Junta sessions for any reply other than "OK - then there is no deal". (My post, in the other concurrent thread, where I attached the Hive's production data, was a last ditch attempt to persuade the Union through logic what your hearts were denying)
There is no doubt that following this decisive failure of the "Gaian wing" to deliver the goods, the "Morgan wing" feels commensurately emboldened. So Captain Snoddasmannen, rather than "being aithorized" is "flexing his muscles", as it were, as a Junta leader to castigate the Union for its short-sightedness.
And both "wings" have strong champions.
In retrospect, when Chiron's history is written, the Gaians' intransigence in 2146 may well go down as the turning point that handed victory to Morgan Industries.
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We have a few hours left before we need to wrap up the turn, so we can wait and see what that may bring. If nothing, then I'll take the Embassy offline at the same time as we post the turn, and ask Method or Drogue to post the short story in a Gaian thread
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Snoddasmannen
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quote:
Originally posted by Googlie
I posted the followign reply to Illuminatus:
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Very well put. It's not every day you get to use a word like intransigence 
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We have a few hours left before we need to wrap up the turn, so we can wait and see what that may bring. If nothing, then I'll take the Embassy offline at the same time as we post the turn, and ask Method or Drogue to post the short story in a Gaian thread |
We should make sure that the Gaians have a chance to read your post on the embassy before closing it though.
Also, for what it's worth. Illuminatis edited this part:
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I see Snoddasmannen has been authorised to make diplomatic contacts, or Sparta shows it cannot control violent outbursts of it's members, again.
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to this:
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I see Snoddasmannen has been authorised to make diplomatic contacts, or Sparta has lost grip on its members again.
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Seems about the same to me, why bother to change it?
And hey, if/when we re-open the embassy, we should have edited their posts, cramming them with insults or obscenities, to simulate the extensive vandalism caused by anti-Gaian subversives. Or perhaps we should do that before we close it and hope they get a glimpse of it
Gaian soldiers groom with mindworm droppings
Ok maybe not such a hot idea ... I'm just trying to think outside the box
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