03-11-2004 09:39									#61
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So it was not just a jester, it will be felt (the bombing) a bit and could cost them a turn or a least some gold.

	03-11-2004 16:10									#62
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Indeed. And MZ did mention to us a few turns ago that he thought he could bombard a bit of Lego, but made a miscalculation, and needed to correct that. Airfield not placed right, perhaps?

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	06-11-2004 22:36									#63
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quote: Battlereport 1260 AD - fighter bombards 3/4 DD at Abilene 44111 (sorry, forgot to record its name). Misses. - DD attacks 3/5 sub U-Q1(?). DD 3/4. - DD attacks 3/4 DD at Abilene 44111. DD 3/4. Total: 1 bombardment, 2 attacks. Lego lost a Sub and a DD.

	17-11-2004 01:37									#64
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quote: Battle Report 1265 AD - DD attacks 3/5 BB Legopolis. DD sinks. BB 2/5. - DD attacks 4/5 DD At Abilene 4411 (forgot to note the name). Defensive bombardment misses. 2/4 DD. - DD attacks 2/4 DD Myrmidon. DD sinks, Myrmidon 2/4 - 3/4 DD attacks 2/4 DD Myrmidon. DD 3/4. - 3/4 DD stumbles into (reg or 3/4?) sub at Abilene 47. DD 2/4. - 3/4 DD stumbles into sub at Abilene 411111111. DD destroyed. - 4/5 DD attacks sub at Abilene 411111111. DD 1/5. Total: 7 battles, 3 lost. We lost 3 DD, Lego lost 2 DD and 2 Subs.

I wonder if we should include a couple of screenshots, just for fun.

DeepO

	17-11-2004 01:45									#65
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screen shots: maybe, but your the Poobah.

Anybody want to bet how long GoW sit on the save?


And is anybody up for ridiculing the Warmongers team if they get thwarted by the builders? (j/k, of course)

	17-11-2004 01:57									#66
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I wonder what would have happen if you had lead out with the 4/5 DD before the 3/4 and the 4/5 ran into the sub?

No problems with screens if you feel like. They will see the area anyway.

	17-11-2004 02:15									#67
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 I wonder what would have happen if you had lead out with the 4/5 DD before the 3/4 and the 4/5 ran into the sub?

Should have remained the same if no promotion would occur. It total, there are 9 hp, no matter which ship went first. We were however lucky the Sub was there, and not on a tile in the second 'leg' to the position. In case we would have run into it with the second ship instead of with the first, we wouldn't have been able to sink it, and our DD would have been gone next turn.

I'll see what I can do with the screenies.

DeepO

	17-11-2004 03:06									#68
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I think a limited screenshot of the landing site would be ok. A rectangle from just S of Abilene to just N of Quanto (or N enough to show our 8 Marines ), just W of our 11 Transports, and just E of Quanto.

	17-11-2004 03:28									#69
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Add this to the post:



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	17-11-2004 03:29									#70
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The problem so far is that it shows exactly what we know of Lego's land, including that we investigated Abilene and Quanto, and not Forkmouth or Sando.

Maybe I should correct that, by blacking out certain regions on Legoland too.

DeepO

	17-11-2004 03:36									#71
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Also shows you didn't steal their map.

	17-11-2004 03:47									#72
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Yeah, I'll work on it.

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	17-11-2004 03:53									#73
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Let's hope GoW is able to do something good on their turn and at least spread the pressure out a bit.

	17-11-2004 03:53									#74
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Pic updated. This should be better.

DeepO

	17-11-2004 12:30									#75
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It looks pretty good.

One thing to consider is blacking out the tile Abilene 444411. It shows FoW where Lego may not know we don't have a ship to have the FoW uncovered. Same with the area NW of last turn's massacre. That may be a helpful thing though (protects Hub 2 and Hub 3 a little), not sure.

I'd also like to see our 8 Marines given a name on the screenshot. They deserve that much for their stupi... stupendous bravery.

SpecOps Torpedochicken Underwater Pontoon Infantry Divisions I-VIII

	17-11-2004 12:36									#76
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Nice acronym STUPID VIII, hope it turns out better.

	18-11-2004 05:01									#78
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Updated the pic, and I'll post the message to the public.

DeepO

	18-11-2004 05:39									#79
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There is one thing we have given away with that screenshot, and it's too bad I only now realised it. We give the exact positions where Lego is supposed to attack next turn, they can switch Abilene, and even Tipperary to naval builds. That's one more DD we haven't counted on; good thing we took a reserve.

Next time I've got to be more careful in this. Lesson learned.

DeepO

	18-11-2004 07:15									#80
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It might be better for us if they change builds anyways. Another Tanks could kill 2+ of our ground units (either defending or attacking), but another DD probably will only hamper our movement by killing a Transport we'd chain with.

	22-11-2004 23:45									#81
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A PM from UnOrThOdOx, and my response:

quote: Hello. I am wondering if there are any on GS who would be interested in assiting me in a project similar to last years: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=104617 May be a different poem this year, unsure yet, but will be about the Lego altercation. In any case, once finished I will at least need to know who to ask whether GS would allow me to post it. (I always ask at least one member of the effected teams before posting such things)

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quote: UnO, I'll post it in the forum - I'm not the most active GS'er by a long shot. Considering how good the last one was, I'm sure we as a team will be ok with it, but I won't speak for the team. -Arrian

	23-11-2004 01:58									#82
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I don't remember much about the post, but my position is that it is fine. He will either reflect well upon himself or less well, he will have no reflection on us.

	23-11-2004 03:46									#83
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UnO's pretty cool about stuff like this... if I remember, I was the contact last time, and he was scrupulous about clearing whatever he wrote with us.

	23-11-2004 04:18									#84
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Fine by me... and we've got the perfect thread to check it first, although I'm sure it will be ok.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 01:27									#85
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I think this is the place to post this: With the amount of damage it seems we are about to do to Lego, it looks like they aren't going to be in this game for much longer. The problem that I am having, is how to break the news to Lego (Vondrack, in particular, due to the dialogue in the conversation thread). We have, in a matter of days, broken an empire that has taken more than two years to build. How heart broken are they going to be to find out that the one mistake that they made, with the BBs, has cost them, the majority of the past two years of their lives?



So how should we break the news to them? Should we post it after GoW have done their bit, or what? Formal, or with heart felt sorrow?

	10-12-2004 01:36									#86
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Well, I don't know about you guys, but I feel sorry for them. I see no problem in showing that to them either. I think it's obvious that we're not going to gloat about this...

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	10-12-2004 01:45									#87
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I think breaking it to them personally before we go public would be the right thing to do too.

	10-12-2004 01:46									#88
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I think it should be formal.

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Lego did a smart thing in every case I can think of. There may have been better things to do in hindsight, but not necessarily more intelligent. Too much of "better" ends up resting on unknowns.

I wouldn't count that BB a mistake as if we hadn't been able to break through we were stuck and healing up their ships would help more than otherwise. Reasonably, I wouldn't expect many people to plan for the Transports attacking. Lego had 15 Transports remember.. and not once did we account for them in our naval simulations. If they had had them available to attack our N fleet, and thought of it, we could have lost a lot of units. The Artillery chained is something that could be easily overlooked too.

As for too many units in Abilene, remember we could've chained 8 Artillery and bombarded Abilene, or chained 8 more Tanks to attack with, and they might not know the full capabilities of our chain because there may be holes in their intelligence. If we had more Transports to chain over somehow (we did have a lot of empties around) and we brought 24 Tanks, it would have been a very close thing. If we had bombarded them down to city size instead of metropolis, it could have been a very close thing even without the extra Tanks.

	10-12-2004 04:34									#89
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There might be a way to bring it to the forum... I'm not sure if it wouldn't be considered some serious gloating. In a moment, with very little trouble, we're going to spot what was left of GoW's stack. We could simply post that in the battle report discussion:

quote: GoW's troops at Fort Stanwix 6: - so many tanks - so many infs - so many arts.

At first they might think we just spied on GoW.
Second post:

quote: so many 1/4 tanks, so many 2/4 tanks, etc.

Probably a bit too much. But once they realize we can see GoW's stack, the implications of this starts to register.

Nah... probably too much. But a neat idea anyway

DeepO

	10-12-2004 04:50									#90
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That be the fun thing about a private forum, we can gloat all we want in here.