04-11-2004 03:38									#91
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Just heard him talking on the news, I find it funny that the president of the USA cannot pronounce America (Merka) or American (Merkin - which could be an advertisement for a pubic wig company i guess...).

overall kind of sad, means I have to try for another 4 years to boycot American goods and not go there on holiday.

	04-11-2004 03:41									#92
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Personal boycotts hurt yourself in the first place. But if that is what you wish...

	04-11-2004 03:45									#93
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Nah i don't worry about it too much tbh Just won't go there whilst Bush is in power, especially now us EU people ahve to get visas and fingerprinted etc on entry.

	04-11-2004 03:53									#94
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I guess I shouldn't have listened to right wing talk radio this morning. ****in **** man. I have a strong urge to kill masses of idiots.

	04-11-2004 04:00									#95
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat I go with Schadenfreude too, for the simple reason that the Dems still need some lessons in national electibility and how to reach down to the two-digit IQ vote, and four more years of Bush won't bring the US to it's knees, but will help the Republicans achieve what they did the last time they were in power for any length of time - make themselves and their policies so widely repudiated that they didn't see daylight for more than half a century.

I said something remarkable similar to the first half of your reply and DanS accussed me of being condiscending. I'm seeing it as simple reality.

	04-11-2004 04:10									#96
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disgusted

	04-11-2004 04:13									#97
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Thats's a good one axi.

	04-11-2004 04:40									#98
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Hm. Actually I am impressed. Would´ve bet it was Kerry 70% to Bush 30%...

Oh, wait, that was the worldwide poll, not the American one!

I cannot believe how a country with so many brilliant people can still hang around in a stone cave playing with clubs, while the world is evolving outside... Oh well, another four years without holidays in the states...

As for the argument "at least Bush fights the countries spawning terrorists": Thanks, that gave me a good laugh! Iraq... Saddam... supporting terrorists... how cute...

	04-11-2004 04:48									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I said something remarkable similar to the first half of your reply and DanS accussed me of being condiscending. I'm seeing it as simple reality.

My impression is that there are both high IQ people and low IQ people all sides of the political spectrum, for a wide variety of reasons, and this kind of charecterization is a pretty schoolyard kind of thing.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I said something remarkable similar to the first half of your reply and DanS accussed me of being condiscending. I'm seeing it as simple reality.

Well, anyone accusing me of being condescending might well be accusing the sun of rising in the east.

2 digit IQ is being a little harsh, but there is a huge fundamental cultural divide in this country, and I don't see it diminishing any time soon.

	04-11-2004 04:53									#101
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat but there is a huge fundamental cultural divide in this country, and I don't see it diminishing any time soon.

It's not as if that's something recent, is it.

	04-11-2004 04:54									#102
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark My impression is that there are both high IQ people and low IQ people all sides of the political spectrum, for a wide variety of reasons, and this kind of charecterization is a pretty schoolyard kind of thing.

Schoolyard things seem to the basis of campaigning. Bush senior campaign hacks stating that the whole basis of opposing Bush was hate, etc. Campaign ads don't appeal to intellect, nor do slogans or events. The entire point from all sides seems to be targetting the voter's limbic systems.

	04-11-2004 04:55									#103
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quote: Originally posted by alva It's not as if that's something recent, is it.

It's more pronounced in terms of its growing dominance in national politics.

	04-11-2004 05:10									#104
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Really? I didn't know that the stem cell bill mandated anyone participate in stem cell research.... Funny, I did reat the text of the initiative and I missed that part. Invalidation of restrictive legislation with the opportunity to restate the legislation in a different way != social legislation. How many social conservatives have been compelled to have abortions, or to perform abortions, under Roe v. Wade?

While an obstetrician may refuse to perform an abortion using the excuse that he is not trained, I as a primary practitioner do not have the luxury of refusing to arrange for a woman to have an abortion as to do so might not only get me sued and have my license revoked but might also put me in prison.

	04-11-2004 05:12									#105
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat 2 digit IQ is being a little harsh, but there is a huge fundamental cultural divide in this country, and I don't see it diminishing any time soon.

But, but Michael, you're in Mexico!

	04-11-2004 05:18									#106
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I'm disappointed.

but it's not really that big a deal. I was going to vote for Bush up until about 6 months ago anyways.

The only reason I didn't was the prison abuse scandal. I can't explain why, but that has deeply disturbed me. I've never been so ashamed of being an american. Perhaps I was being naive, and didn't realize how evil the country I live in really is. I just couldn't believe ordinary people are that sadistic. What's even more ****ed up is a few months ago when discussing who we were vote for, some Bush backers were defending this behaviour saying it wasn't that bad.

I no longer like my country. But I'm too lazy to move

	04-11-2004 05:24									#107
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Where was the 'Pissing oneself laughing' choice...?

Oh well, better go for Schadenfreude then

Talk about self-destruction. Probably the best thing to happen for the rest of the World (well, most of it!), though we probably won't realise for at least 4 years...

	04-11-2004 05:27									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Micha I cannot believe how a country with so many brilliant people can still hang around in a stone cave playing with clubs, while the world is evolving outside... Oh well, another four years without holidays in the states...

That is what you get if you give gullible morons the opportunity to vote...

	04-11-2004 05:31									#109
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The strongest argument against democracy: The United States of America

	04-11-2004 05:33									#110
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Relief. I'm no Bush fan, but I'm certainly relieved that Kerry won't be Commander-in-Chief...

	04-11-2004 05:37									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Relief. I'm no Bush fan, but I'm certainly relieved that Kerry won't be Commander-in-Chief...

I find it strange that your in Japan yet you seem to support the rise of your new overlord the Golden Emperor Hu Jintao

	04-11-2004 05:37									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Relief. I'm no Bush fan, but I'm certainly relieved that Kerry won't be Commander-in-Chief...

why's that? how badly can he screw up?

	04-11-2004 05:44									#113
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I don't know; I'm just glad we don't have to find out.

	04-11-2004 05:56									#114
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:Angry:

I deal with the victims of conservative domestic policies daily.

	04-11-2004 06:01									#115
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I deal with the victims of conservative domestic policies daily.

What do you mean, precisely?

	04-11-2004 06:04									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor What do you mean, precisely?

yes I'm curious as well. I made a post in the election thread about how presidential policies really don't affect me, or anyone that I know. As far as I can tell, they don't affect my whole city. How can conservative policies be that bad?

	04-11-2004 06:04									#117
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Like many other semi-intelligent non-Americans posting here, I simply shake my head in bewilderment at how more than half of America's voting population can fail to see what the rest of the world so clearly sees.

Oh wait, I forgot something.....90% of Americans don't give a rat's arse about the rest of the world, and most of those do'nt even recognise that there is a world outside of America (except Afghanistan and Iraq of course, and then only in the last 3 years).

So with that in mind......I guess I'm not so surprised after all.

	04-11-2004 06:05									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident How can conservative policies be that bad?

You are joking, aren't you?

	04-11-2004 06:06									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 Like many other semi-intelligent non-Americans posting here, I simply shake my head in bewilderment at how more than half of America's voting population can fail to see what the rest of the world so clearly sees. Oh wait, I forgot something.....90% of Americans don't give a rat's arse about the rest of the world, and most of those do'nt even recognise that there is a world outside of America (except Afghanistan and Iraq of course, and then only in the last 3 years). So with that in mind......I guess I'm not so surprised after all.

not everyone is alike. Apparantly people think Bush is doing a good job.

And he is if you think about it. The economy is good. There are plenty of jobs. I would have voted for him if he hadn't messes up the Iraq war.

	04-11-2004 06:06									#120
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