06-11-2004 05:22									#91
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@ Aggie.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I note that interesting comment about public transit. For me, the biggest difficulty is that the transit does not run early enough in the day. For me to get to a job first thing in the morning, I need to buy a car, which is a cost I'd rather do without.

	06-11-2004 05:45									#92
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BK: Can you walk or bike? It's funny, since I've been working out more I've really been feeling far better physically and mentally

Obviously I'm not suggesting a 40 mile hike every morning, so within reason etc.

	06-11-2004 05:51									#93
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Depends on the distance.

I do not know how far my commute will be as I have not been assigned a depot.

It could be reasonable, it could be unreasonable.

Cities over here tend to be more spread out than in England, so the chances are less that I would be close enough to walk.

	06-11-2004 05:54									#94
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I routinely walk around 30 blocks a day, so anything within that radius would be doable on foot.

As for a bike, it would prolly be easier for me to buy a used car, than shop for a bike.

	06-11-2004 06:18									#95
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Ah understood, though a motorbike may be a good compromise too? Depending on safety and luggage etc. Northampton is a fairly large town, actually it's supposedly the largest town (non-city) in Europe, though it's still god awful. Last night I walked back from... well... an interesting evening , about six miles so only 90 minutes or so, but right past where I got beaten up a couple weeks ago which was rather nerve-racking .

	06-11-2004 07:26									#96
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Maybe we can cut the taxes on the rich somemore so they have more excess income to fund the private charities with?

On what basis do you make such a proclamation?

	06-11-2004 07:32									#97
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'm trying to figure out what I own that anyone would want, actually.

Don't think about that, since they want the oddest things. Just put whatever you don't want/need for auction. You will never know who may come along.

	06-11-2004 07:35									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Asher There's just not many jobs for "web designers", a trade which went out of style in...oh...'99.

Lovely, here comes another commentary about the real world from a person who has no real world experience whatsoever.

	06-11-2004 07:36									#99
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Oh, he has some. Just not nearly as much as he thinks he does.

	06-11-2004 07:37									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Lovely, here comes another commentary about the real world from a person who has no real world experience whatsoever.

This from a communist.

	06-11-2004 08:28									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker This from a communist.

This from somebody who has even less experience than Asher.

	06-11-2004 09:07									#102
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara .... just a complaint about the idea that private charities are an answer and better than the government.

Charities no longer operate that way BECAUSE goverment provides said assistance. But, have you tried your church? I couldn't imagine your church turning you down.

	06-11-2004 10:05									#103
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He's got no church.

	06-11-2004 10:08									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger This from somebody who has even less experience than Asher.

So you aren't a communist?

Otherwise your comment makes no sense, as I don't need that much experience to tell that you're a commie.

	06-11-2004 10:24									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger He's got no church.

It takes a village.

	06-11-2004 10:32									#106
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That's true, though - join a church, or even just go talk to them, and they'll probably be happy to help you out. That's the fair way to do it, rather than going on welfare and making others help you.

(not directed at che, just speaking in general about welfare)

	06-11-2004 10:34									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Lovely, here comes another commentary about the real world from a person who has no real world experience whatsoever.

I was a web designer til '99, actually.

Some people here may even remember SidGames, for one.

	06-11-2004 10:34									#108
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I dont really care what he does or the politics behind it, just take care and do whatever it takes. I know in his position I'd feel more awkward about going to a church than I would about government.

	06-11-2004 10:38									#109
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quote: I know in his position I'd feel more awkward about going to a church than I would about government.

Oh, you feel more awkward about going and asking for money from those who don't have to give it but do anyway then going to the government and taking some of my hard earned money? Boo-****ing-hoo. I'm sorry if you have to swallow your pride a little, but I'd just as soon keep my money.

	06-11-2004 10:46									#110
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Well I suppose (and I'm playing devils advocate because economically speaking, I just don't give a ****) you're paying less than you would be if you were contributing to the church fund. Also the taxes you pay for such things are insignificant compared to the proportion of your salary going into Iraq. Beside, the actual amount you pay doesn't change per individual, and in these situations, one doesn't (nor should one in my view) consider society as a whole, rather the situation at hand.

Given the choice between swallowing my pride or going to the government, it's not a tough one .

	06-11-2004 11:01									#111
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quote: But, have you tried your church? I couldn't imagine your church turning you down.

That was my point earlier on in the thread. You can't consider private charity without looking at friends and the churches.

	06-11-2004 11:09									#112
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quote: Last night I walked back from... well... an interesting evening , about six miles so only 90 minutes or so, but right past where I got beaten up a couple weeks ago which was rather nerve-racking

You are out of shape, whaleboy.

I can walk 8.5K in about 90 minutes. From UBC to my place in the summer, if I didn't feel like taking the bus.

	06-11-2004 11:22									#113
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quote: you're paying less than you would be if you were contributing to the church fund.

Maybe, but the church fund is voluntary - I can give any amount I want, from zero to everything.

quote: Also the taxes you pay for such things are insignificant compared to the proportion of your salary going into Iraq.

I oppose the war in Iraq as well. What's your point?

quote: Given the choice between swallowing my pride or going to the government, it's not a tough one

You're right, it's easy - swallow your pride and ASK for help rather than DEMAND help that you're somehow "due".

	06-11-2004 13:50									#114
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quote: Oh, you feel more awkward about going and asking for money from those who don't have to give it but do anyway then going to the government and taking some of my hard earned money?

Che. I've decided. Go to the welfare office and take some of Dave's hard earned money. The feeling of ****ing over the Libertarians should compensate for any bad feelings you might get from dealing with the welfare people.

	06-11-2004 13:58									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Huh? Didn't he just establish that most rightists don't believe in the absolute free market? Aggie, you need to stop being a CCCP.

I wish Agathon would just quit with the whole "LOOK AT ME IM THE SOVIET UNION!!!1!1" routine

	06-11-2004 14:24									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi @ Aggie. Like shooting fish in a barrel. I note that interesting comment about public transit. For me, the biggest difficulty is that the transit does not run early enough in the day. For me to get to a job first thing in the morning, I need to buy a car, which is a cost I'd rather do without.

When does it begin where you live?

Trains and buses start at about 6am round here, despite the fact that they've given the trains to the bus company.

	06-11-2004 17:43									#118
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quote: Che. I've decided. Go to the welfare office and take some of Dave's hard earned money.

Sure, go ahead - let's just be honest about what welfare really is and where it comes from, though.

	06-11-2004 18:57									#119
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quote: You are out of shape, whaleboy. I can walk 8.5K in about 90 minutes. From UBC to my place in the summer, if I didn't feel like taking the bus.

6 miles = 9.7 Km

	07-11-2004 08:06									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker So you aren't a communist?

Yes, no, maybe.

quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Otherwise your comment makes no sense, as I don't need that much experience to tell that you're a commie.

It makes as much sense as your response.