25-11-2004 18:22									#91
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I don't think Pirates will be affected.

	25-11-2004 18:23									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Opps, Firaxis did EU2 not Sims.

Firaxis made SMAC

Maxis made The Sims

Paradox made Europa Universalis

	25-11-2004 18:26									#93
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Yeah it can be diffecult to tell those 3 developers apart... they all have an x in their name

	25-11-2004 18:32									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Yeah right, now you've ruined it. It's probably Vivendi Universal.

Please... don't... do.. that... to.. my.. heart... again....

	25-11-2004 21:17									#95
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if Firaxis bought it, can we expect they feel more comfortable to introduce some new ideas into the series?

	25-11-2004 21:21									#96
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quote: Hmmm... if Firaxis and Atari have parted, who will publish and distribute the new Pirates game?

Firaxis and Atari didn't part. Atari parted with the civilization franchise, that's all. They will still publish Pirates!

	25-11-2004 22:10									#97
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Get +1's

	25-11-2004 22:11									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Alex if Firaxis bought it, can we expect they feel more comfortable to introduce some new ideas into the series?

This would put them in a position similar to iD or Blizzard, where publishers would cater to THEM to get the game, rather than Atari dictating how things would go. This would likely give them more creative freedom on what goes into the game, as well as a better contract and more money.

So yes, it would be better on the whole for Civ, if you trust Firaxis, of course.

	25-11-2004 22:26									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Well, I am one of those who strongly prefers Alpha Centauri over Civ III. I can only hope that any Civ IV uses some of the features of that game rather than Civ III.

Ned and I agree again!

	25-11-2004 22:46									#100
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Sad news

Disney bought it

	25-11-2004 22:52									#101
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I didn't see that in the link

JOn Miller

	25-11-2004 23:02									#102
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Damn, I wanted to cause a few heart attacks. Couldn't you wait a bit more before spoiling my troll?

	26-11-2004 00:38									#103
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

CtP wasn't that bad. It was definetily different from the Civ-series, so I felt a bit ripped off when buying it, believing the hype which called it "Civilization III", though.

	26-11-2004 00:54									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Damn, I wanted to cause a few heart attacks. Couldn't you wait a bit more before spoiling my troll?

At least what I linked to was funny.

	26-11-2004 01:07									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Trip At least what I linked to was funny.

I didn't even bother to click on my link, you know

	26-11-2004 01:49									#106
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i agree with ned and che?

shiznit.

	26-11-2004 02:24									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i agree with ned and che? shiznit.

Extremist

	26-11-2004 05:24									#108
	PARADOX has bought Civ franchise rights!!! Got spare money?

Let me inform you. The franchise has been bought by PARADOX, the maker of Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, Crusader Kings, Victoria and which recently bought "Diplomacy" and "Squad Leader" rights too.

	26-11-2004 05:43									#109
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I seriously doubt Paradox could afford it.

	26-11-2004 05:50									#110
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Same here. And since the information is given by a DL...

I continue to think Disney has bought it

	26-11-2004 05:54									#111
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He's been in the thread in the Civ 4 forum. I hope he sticks around for a few weeks...

	26-11-2004 05:59									#112
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Link?

	26-11-2004 06:07									#113
	Why doubt Paradox cant afford that Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Why you doubt PARADOX cant afford that? They have a great name in Strategy games. The information I am giving you in authntic. Paradox has made some big changes recently and what I say is 100% correct as I have inside information. Anyway, you will come to know what I am telling you after some time.

	26-11-2004 06:09									#114
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I'll believe it when I see it on a news site.

	26-11-2004 06:13									#115
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Oh well, we shall see "after some time", then. It's just that I've always thought of them as a rather small outfit - the games are great, but initial bugs and the like hurt sales, nevermind the fact that they are aimed at a crowd with a very small niche. I doubt they'd have tens of millions of euros they could throw at Civ, considering that Firaxis is already developing it, and Paradox is more concentrated on developing itself, rather than publishing, even if it does do some self-publishing.

	26-11-2004 06:14									#116
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quote: Originally posted by icett Why you doubt PARADOX cant afford that? They have a great name in Strategy games. The information I am giving you in authntic. Paradox has made some big changes recently and what I say is 100% correct as I have inside information. Anyway, you will come to know what I am telling you after some time.

Paradox's last project Victoria didn't do so well. Look at the reviews. It didn't sell so well either. They're not a big company. No reputation will give you 25 million dollars out of thin air. 25 million dollars is about the total amount that Firaxis would recieve from 2 games, and Firaxis sells many more games than Paradox would. It's even a stretch that Firaxis bought it, though that's what most people are hoping.

	26-11-2004 06:16									#117
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CapTVK has posted that the old titles will stay with Atari.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=125822

	26-11-2004 06:18									#118
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Well, 22 million $ is a lot of money, and Civ is probably too big a bone for an editor used to publish small-audience (nearly niche) strategy games like Paradox.

The Civ series is probably the most popular TBS series, and its audience compares to very famous games, which is far beyond any other TBS.

Maybe Paradox intends to publish large-audience strategy games, and has found the money to do so. But I would imagine that one of the big publishers out here would more easily find the money to publish a sure profit-maker.

	26-11-2004 06:52									#119
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No way Paradox could come up with that kind of money. And depite the fact that I really like their games, I'd hate for them to pick up Civ. They're really a one trick pony, but it's a really nice trick.

	26-11-2004 07:57									#120
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btw, don't the Firaxis guys ever stop by Apolyton? They seem to only go to CFC, did they have some falling out with poly?