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Another book I would recommend are the memiors of the infamous Colonel Masanobu Tsuji.

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@Typhoon: My library says they don't have a book by that name. Is that actually what it's called, or does it have a different title, and if so, what?

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It's been published under a myriad of titles, first in 1954 as 'Singapore: The Japanese Story' or more recently as 'Japan's Greatest Victory/ Britain's Greatest Defeat.' While focusing mostly on the Malaya campaign, it does contain a lot of information of Japanese war planning in China and elsewhere.

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Typhoon: You seem to be the graphics man here - I noticed that the zip Patine posted has what look suspiciously like darkened versions of my unit icons. I'm guessing this is a consequence of the png beta correction problem with IE mentioned first by Catfish. If you PM me your e-mail address I'll send you the unadulterated originals

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@typhoon: Thanks for the possible titles. I'll check my library under those. Is Col. Masanobu the stated author of the book, or is there a different credited writer?

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I'm not the graphics man, Jimmy is. Here is the lightened units.bmp, which I have tried correcting with some of your units. If Patine and yourself could kindly take a look, and change whatever needs changing, we'd all be very grateful.

@ Patine

Yes, he is the author.

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Uhm, typhoon, sorry to break it to you, but there's no units.bmp file there.

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Patine:

A few more suggestions:

1) In certain locations perhaps have oil in abundance (such as in the Dutch East Indies, etc). In addition to the gold the Jap player could obtain by capturing those cities, he can also gain oil (in the form of shields) to produce more units. If this oil resource is mined, it will yield even more shields...

2) In addition to the "oil" resource, you could also have "tin", "gold", "iron", etc... that would make it doubly attractive for the Jap player to secure certain areas...

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Patine:

A few more suggestions:

1) In certain locations perhaps have oil in abundance (such as in the Dutch East Indies, etc). In addition to the gold the Jap player could obtain by capturing those cities, he can also gain oil (in the form of shields) to produce more units. If this oil resource is mined, it will yield even more shields...

2) In addition to the "oil" resource, you could also have "tin", "gold", "iron", etc... that would make it doubly attractive for the Jap player to secure certain areas...


Rubber as well..

They could also produce more trade rather than most shields, giving the japanese more money to buy stuff, and also making trade routes between those cities and the japanese mainland more lucrative in terms of trade per turn that the route gives.

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Rubber as well..

They could also produce more trade rather than most shields, giving the japanese more money to buy stuff, and also making trade routes between those cities and the japanese mainland more lucrative in terms of trade per turn that the route gives.


I agree.

Commodities such as rubber, tin, gold could yield more trade.

These areas would be worth fighting over and developing...

Of course, these would also be areas that the allies would be trying to re-take, to shut down the Japanese economy ...

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Here is the lightened units.bmp, which I have tried correcting with some of your units.


Please don't Whoever put it together has used MGE versions of the 25-pdr and Pack 75, and darkened versions of the rest (my fault I guess; I originally posted these as a png which led to the problem in the first place. Mind you, it had been replaced within a day....)

Here are the correct brightness/contrast originals. I really want whoever is in charge of the unit graphics file to replace the darkened/MGE versions with these.

Attachment: fairline ww2 tot.zip
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I agree with the resources idea, save that it gets kind of tricky when you can't place resources yourself. However, I can give it a go. Does anyone, perchance, have good rubber and tin resource graphics?

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I agree with the resources idea, save that it gets kind of tricky when you can't place resources yourself. However, I can give it a go.


I think that you can do it quite easily. Your scen will probably not need the glacier and tundra terrain slots. Use them for resources. You could have resource type terrains labelled oil or tin or whatever, producing any desired number of shields and trade arrows, that you can place around selected cities. There is no need to try to work with the CIV2 resource squares.

If you have to boost trade bonuses, check with Kobra as to how he does it in Blitzkrieg 36. Payoffs in the 3000 (non-demand) to 6000+ (demand) range are common when Asian (Japanese) freights arrive in New York (disarmed but deliberately left in hostile American hands). Your numbers would likely be quite a bit lower because both the home and delivery cities are Japanese and the Japanese will have discovered Flight.

In addition, you may be able have certain resource rich cities generate cash every month as long as Japan holds them. I know that Techumseh can do it in TOT, I don't know if it is possible in MGE.

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In addition, you may be able have certain resource rich cities generate cash every month as long as Japan holds them. I know that Techumseh can do it in TOT, I don't know if it is possible in MGE.


Am I missing something, or are you describing the effects of capitalization in a high shield city? Yes, yes, switch to ToT and take advantage of its unique benefits!

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I agree with the resources idea, save that it gets kind of tricky when you can't place resources yourself. However, I can give it a go. Does anyone, perchance, have good rubber and tin resource graphics?


I would suggest having a look at Harlan's Pacific scenario again. He has done the resource thing and has those graphics in his terrain1.gif as well as in Rules.txt.

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Heh, silly me.

Attachment: risingsununits.zip
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Am I missing something, or are you describing the effects of capitalization in a high shield city?


I hope I'm not stealing Techumseh's thunder in mentioning this. No, it's not capitalization but actual cash payments to a limited number of civs (1-2 or 1-3) if they hold a particular city.

BTW, how do you get the strike through text in your post? The strike throughs did not survive being copied from your post and pasted in the quote box above.

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Actually, I had been using glacier and tundra in my scen, but not necassarily in their best utilization. However, to swap out those terrains, I'd have to destroy and rebuild most of my standing cities, unless I can find that elusive utility I've heard about that allows the terrain beneath a city to be changed without disturbing the city.

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Oh, and thanks a lot typhoon and fairline! The units.bmp looks great, now!

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I need an opinion. Is this first events text file (the first chunk of the Dec '41-Dec '42 events.txt) alright, at least in terms of its text poppups accurately reflecting the Japanese point of view. I just need someone to review it and tell me what they think in that regard.

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This event is unesseary:

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^Falling woefully easily to the superior Japanese Imperial Army,
^the Chinese forces begin to crumble upon themselves. When Peking,
^the capital, capitulates, it is all too expected, and Chiang Kai-
^shek was already moved his government to a wartime capital in
^Chungking, in the centre of the country. However, the Japanese are
^bolstered by the victory and prepare to move West into inland


One of the many historical inaccuracies in Captain Nemo's 2194 Days of War scenario was that the Japanese captured Peking in the 1930s, years before Pearl Harbour.

This one is wrong:

quote:
^The Imperial Navy Marines catch the American possession of the
^Philipines unaware in their sudden attack. US Marines stationed
^there fall victim to the swift strike, and Manila, the territory's
^capital, falls to the Imperial war machine. The US military commander
^in charge of the island group's defense, General Douglas MacArthur,
^escapes from the island with a small force, vowing to return. A
^number of US prisoners of war are marched to death by Japanese forces
^on the Batai Peninsula. The Japanese High Command begin the process of
^fortifying the island chain, intent that MacArthur's arrogant boast
^will go unfulfilled.


The Japanese Naval Infantry and US Marines played only a marginal role in the Philipines campaign, which was fought between US and Phillipino Army forces and the Japanese Army. Also, MacArthur only escaped with his personal staff, and not "a small force".

This is also incorrect:

quote:
^The battle for Malaysia goes better than expected for the Imperial
^Army. The Straits Volunteer Corps, positioned on the outskirts of
^Kuala Lampur, fall to the fierce Japanese onslaught. Poorly trained
^Malay troops are mowed down by Japanese soldiers and artillery.
^However, the Japanese intelligence indicates that a Chindit guerilla
^movement, and similar native militias, are being raised in preparation
^for further Japanese expansion into British Asian territory, as they
^see even England's decadent Raj as being preferable to Japan's harsh
^militarist rule.


The Chindits were set up over 18 months after the fall of Malaya and were made up of conventional British and Indian infantry, and was not a guerilla force. The guerilla movement in Malaya and Burma was almost insignificant.

Furthermore, the Straits Volunter Force only fought in the defence of Singapore, where it was a small and essentially useless component of the island's defences. The battles of Malaya and Singapore were fought and lost by Indian, British and Australian units.

In regards to another event, the Dutch Queen was in exile in London, not Canada.

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Well, now that this thread is back, I'll use it to track my progress. I noticed some very good suggestions on this thread I liked but forgot about while we were waiting for the restoration (notably trade resources, which I haven't yet altered). My CD-Rom drive is scheduled to be fixed on Tuesday, till then, there's a bit of work I can actually do.

Two things to ask the community, however:
-First, should I, when this scen is done, make a similar edition with the same units, techs, map, setup, and cities, and similar improvements and Wonders, but different events, so it can be played from the American point of view, or would that not be prudent?
-Second, could someone PLEASE make me a People.bmp file for WWII Japanese (I especially like your work on this field, Curt).

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Suffer another graphics update, Patine?

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As for Japanese WW2 people, I'd suggest looking into Dictator TOT...

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Sorry for the triple post, but I forgot the Japanese...

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Thanks a lot, Typhoon! I may have to paste some of Chris' button shields over theirs, but the actual units are superb!

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Everything you see here is pillaged from fairline. Superb? Just check Allard's River War thread for the straight goods.

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OK, I know it's been a while, but here's the new units.bmp file, with Chris' button shields, some US Navy aircraft and updated infantry from typhoon (which he said he took and/or modified from fairline), and a minor but important shading touch-up by Chris (and his WW2 Canadian Infantry, as well). That's the second last thing, with only fixing a bunch of events bugs left, then to playtesting! Let me know what you think of these new units.

Attachment: units.zip
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From what I can see, you need to fix the shield placements (the blue dots).

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True. In the meantime, here is a version which fixes .png darkening, and updates some of the gfx.

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