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MORON
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Vancouver, Canada
Jun 2001
time: 13:32
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Bah, doing an attack like that is simply not worth it....
Like I said, it is not hard to simply screw someone, it is an completely another thing to win.
Lets see the scot and luji survive the next 2 turns.  For >64bp, you each gained 8/6 bp, worth around 18~25bp.....and complete vulnerability for the next two turns.
Don't attack someone with the avartar of Zero Type 52-Tan, or you face kamikaze. 
Ah well.... I was expecting an allied attack coming my way, but I wasn't expacting two of them 
It is annoying that the failure of other first turn attackers means that I die. -_-
I guess an low profile 4 base noobs will probably win this, since the attrition rate for attackers have been too high to elimate them all in the next ~2 turns without suiciding themselves. Jamski and Joncha are in an strong position, but they can be taken down by the 4 base noobs if someone allies.
Side note: neither Jamski nor Joncha have an shield...
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MORON
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Vancouver, Canada
Jun 2001
time: 13:32
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Analysis of prediction:
quote:
Predictions:
Certain attackers:
Drspike, kass, skanky
very high chance of allied attack.....
Almost certain attackers:
Sparrowhawk, GB64, Luj, Joncha,
Certain Targets:
Me , Jamski
Almost Certain Targets:
PaddytheScot
Ambigious:
Atragon
Attacker Defender Ratio estimate:
7.5: 3.5 ~ 2:1 |
Actual:
attackers:
Drspike, kass, skanky, GC64, Ata, Luji, paddy, joncha, jamski
Defenders:
Drspike, skanky, me, sparrowhawk, herc
A to D ratio: 9:5 ~2:1
Prediction rule flaws:
1. Raw Strengh really don't determine attacks, but alliances. (which are hidden) Only people with no allies depends on their own fleet strenght
2. Possibility of shield reduces chance of being picked greatly.
3. People don't pick possible attackers as much as shieldless defenders.
4. Feuds happen.......
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MORON
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Vancouver, Canada
Jun 2001
time: 13:32
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On OOB, and ship build strategy:
All Laser Build: The most reliable way to over power, but also quite dangerous. A few notes: (since I'm dead, no secrets remain) Once the laser fleet out numbers by around 25%, it would steam roll anyfleet reguardless of OOB by using the first attack.
Given equal Bp
All laser vs balanced
An all laser build will will over power balanced build in almost all sisutations given close in, spread out. excluding one OOB type for the defender.
OOB of mixed fleet: TTx xxx, back off against LLx xxx, close in spread out.
100% 2/3 mixed losses, 1/2~1 losses to the laser fleet
Note that against balanced fleets using start out attack, spread out is important to an laser user to prevent torpedos from shutting down attacks completely. Since the LLx start is obvious, the opponent will obviously put torpedos, with no fighters, first.
2nd turn laser attack strategy: Doesn't work
FFT TLL against straight forward mixed fleet strategy from above, close in, the lasers try to line up fighters and fighter counter torpedos.
1/2 chance that:
Turn one causes, 1/6 losses to laser fleet. Turn two lasers would do 1/2~2/3 losses to the enemy fleet while suffering an additional 1/6 losses.
Another 1/2 chance that
The fleet can suffer 2/3 losses the first three turns and lose the battle.
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Summary: an laser fleet is not flexible but it is effectiv against evenly mixed fleets, as it can match at worst, defeat utterly with the best OOB settings.
Laser vs 1/2 fighter torp - counters lasers
Similar to balanced fleet's OOB, however the defender's choice of OOB are: TTF FLL, and TTL LFF
TTF FLL requires the laser to play it safe, as in spread out. If this happens, the win chance for the 1/2fight/torp fleet is ~100%. If no spread out, than the chances are either complete laser death without losses, or 3/4 f/t losses and lose the battle.
TTL LFF, back off against someone who uses spread out and logical oob, and the chances are
50%
1/2 f/t losses to 1/2~1 laser losses
50%
3/4 f/t losses, 1/2~3/4 laser losses
Against someone who doesn't use spread out
50% complete victory for f/t fleet
50% 1/2 f/t losses, ~3/4 laser losses
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Atragon
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TRAITOR!
I call upon members of PiMP to unite and strike down the traitorus member within our ranks, Ljube-ljcvetko!
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MORON
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Vancouver, Canada
Jun 2001
time: 13:32
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Gah, thats 3vil.....why can't this by like faceless online matching games where no one knows anyone else? >_<;;
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Atragon
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In that case Johncha, join us in the attack on the traitor Ljube.
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16-01-2005 14:21
You're just now figuring this out? 
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