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He is privately taught by the finest teacher in Carthage.

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Macedonia to Athens and Egypt and anyone else who sent us messages:

Please be patient. We will answer, but we need some other things cleared up first.

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Egypt to Persia:
We've noticed a certain lack of grain in your lands. We'd be willing to trade 10 talents\turn grain for 10 talents\turn of your cattle. Is this acceptable?

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I'm not sure I'm clear on the trade system...Even though I have only one, for example, fish resource, can I sell it to another nation without a decrease in my stats? If so, to how many other nations can I sell to before it has an effect on my country?

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OOC: Just don't be ridiculous in your exploitation of it. Selling huge quantities of fish to everybody isn't going to work, and Micha will tell you if you're going overboard. If you want to export more, invest in the resource, like the money I've put towards grain so I can export more of it. At least, that's my understanding.




I wanted to include the amounts produced, but then I would also have had to include the amounts needed, and then Iīd have to calculate fractals when determining the effect of importing 56% of the needed amount on your economy... Too much work, at least for the exam time right now.

If someone has a better idea, donīt hesitate to tell me about it. I was thinking about a civ3 system, where one ressource was kept to oneself, while an additional one of the same type may be exported to another country.
However there would be problems like Crete needing as much grain as the entire Persian empire...

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[SIZE=1]Egypt to Bosporian Greeks:
We'd like to begin importing your furs and timber. We'd like to start by importing 4 talents\turn furs and 4 talents\turn timber. We'd also like to offer you the chance to import our paper.

We are most honoured your merchants offer that much of a demand!
Epect our trade vessels to Tanys soon.
Long live the Pharao!

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To: Sparta
From: Carthage

We wish to purchase honey from you. For what amount would you say?

Most excellent! We can provide up to 5t/turn!

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To: Lydia
From: Carthage

We are already being supplied fur from the Romans, so how about 7 talents for pottery?

Sounds good. We have a deal then.

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Magna Graecia to world
We need to inform you that any action helping the Romans is a threat to us. We therefor announce the Roman waters warzones. We will intercept ANY shipping in this area, regardless of nations involved.
Please donīt force us to worsen our mutual relations by forcing us to sink your trade vessels...

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According to good sources, Egypt has been granted an own fish ressource. The infrastructure rating has been downed to counter the effect of the new ressource and to better resemble the destruction the recent wars have caused in Lower Egypt.

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To: Sparta
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Just trade to the city Cyrene, and then we will transport it from there. That way, you can go around Magna Graecia.

To: Lydia
From: Carthage

We have a deal.

Carthage is now receiving pottery and honey.

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Rome to the World

Theres no need to worry. Our navy will destroy the Greek pirates. Any assistance is welcome though.

Rome to Macedonia

Your proposal is interesting. What do the Northern cities respond?

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Rome to Egypt

Would you be interested in Roman timber? It is exellent material for shipbuilding


Rome to Sparta

We are very interested to trade Roman iron for your honey. What about you?

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Egypt to Rome: We've already accepted a deal with the Bosporian Greeks to purchase their timber. At the present time, we don't require any of yours. However, should the Bosporian Greeks prove unreliable, we will keep you in mind.

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Macedonia to Northern Greek cities :

It might be advantageous to respond to our proposal.

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Adria, Nicaea and Massilia to Macedonia and Rome
Donīt forget itīs been the Romans who have issued the declaration of war. We demand that justice is done. Punish those responsible for the aggression, and we will join this alliance.
However cannot go back to normal as if this incident has never happened. The level of trust, as it was ten years ago, will never be reached again.

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We are very interested to trade Roman iron for your honey. What about you?

Most excellent! Iron makes an otherwise good soldier invincible!
We however donīt have enough honey to supply you, as our small surplus already goes to other nations.
We offer to buy iron at 5 talents / turn.

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Rome to Northern Greek cities

The only ones responsible for this sudden change-in are the Magna Graecian and the Macedonian general leading them. We are only protecting ourselves. If you are indeed as friendly and peace-loving as you say you are then you should have accepted our proposal without any doubts of our motives.

You have yourselves shown not to be trustworthy. Therefore you have become a liability. Dont blame us for what was bring to us by foreigners.

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Most excellent! Iron makes an otherwise good soldier invincible!
We however donīt have enough honey to supply you, as our small surplus already goes to other nations.
We offer to buy iron at 5 talents / turn.


Make it 7 and you've got a deal. The Egyptian are paying 9 for the same stuff, so I believe our offer is reasonable.

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Northern Greek cities to Rome
Excuse me, what?
You demanded our annexiation and threatened with war!

In other News
I have added the road network to the map, so itīs easier to see what has been done and what still needs attention.
Also the two Wonders ("Guardian of the West", "Pyramids") have been added to the map.

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Make it 7 and you've got a deal. The Egyptian are paying 9 for the same stuff, so I believe our offer is reasonable.

Yes, but the Egyptians are filthy rich people, plus they need more of iron than we do...
Six is the highest we could go. Take it or leave it...

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Rome to Northern Greek cities

Only because we wanted to see your reaction. I must say we were pretty disappointed for your lack of perspective.


Rome to Sparta

Deal.

OOC:

Awesome!

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OOC: Micha, I see "Tourism" listed among Macedonia's income. How did they manage that one?

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Macedonia to Rome and the Northern Greek cities :


Aesop's fable of the three little boys--

There once was a little boy named Macedonia. He had two good friends, who were also good friends of each other, named Rome and Magna. One day, a bully name Pyrrhus came along, and tripped Magna, who fell on Rome. Magna and Rome started yelling at each other, and were very angry, and began fighting. At this time, Macedonia pointed out that it was an accident, and tempers had gotten the better of everyone, and this bickering and shoving weren't really necessary. Magna and Rome began flinging accusations at each other, and Macedonia, very irritated, saw no choice but to beat some good sense into the rotten little twerps, dear to him as they were. This of course solved nothing, and all three friends began fighting, and were unhappy, and bully Pyrrhus laughed and stole their toys while they were busy fighting their friends.

We don't think we need to point out the moral of the story. Come on, Pyrrhus is the enemy here, let's forget everything else and get rid of him and his army of thugs.

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OOC: Micha, I see "Tourism" listed among Macedonia's income. How did they manage that one?


The olympic games!
Also Athens is attracting many people because of its philosophers and schools; Carthage will have that too for its wonder, and once your nation is stabilized Egypt might also become a destination for wealthy travellers...

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Macedonia to Rome and the Northern Greek cities :


Aesop's fable of the three little boys--

There once was a little boy named Macedonia. He had two good friends, who were also good friends of each other, named Rome and Magna. One day, a bully name Pyrrhus came along, and tripped Magna, who fell on Rome. Magna and Rome started yelling at each other, and were very angry, and began fighting. At this time, Macedonia pointed out that it was an accident, and tempers had gotten the better of everyone, and this bickering and shoving weren't really necessary. Magna and Rome began flinging accusations at each other, and Macedonia, very irritated, saw no choice but to beat some good sense into the rotten little twerps, dear to him as they were. This of course solved nothing, and all three friends began fighting, and were unhappy, and bully Pyrrhus laughed and stole their toys while they were busy fighting their friends.

We don't think we need to point out the moral of the story. Come on, Pyrrhus is the enemy here, let's forget everything else and get rid of him and his army of thugs.


Most excellent, Aesop!

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Theres no need to worry. Our navy will destroy the Greek pirates. Any assistance is welcome though.


We regret to inform you that we will not be able to reimburse you for any losses due to piracy. The iron is not ours until we've paid for it at Tanys, and the grain is yours when you buy it at Tanys. However, we have confidence that Rome will adequately protect its merchant fleets and this will be irrelevant.

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When will the update be? I'm trying to see when I should finish my orders.

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Monday. Though I cannot promise anything, I think Monday will be doable...

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I should have it in tomorrow then.

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I'd better get to plotting then.

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Erm, after sighting my examination plan, Monday becomes impossible. Having an exam on Monday 18:00 (6pm) and one on Tuesday 8:30...

But Tuesday noon sounds perfectly fine
So no hurry, no worry

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OK, sounds good, Micha.

 
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