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Not that medecine is the most intellectually challenging profession in the world. Not by a long shot...

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Actually that depends on whether or not there was a job for you, and whether or not anyone would give you the job.


Want to bet what the unemployment rate is for people who have passed the bar exam? For people with PhDs in physics it's under 1%.

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I never was interested in health care. I don't like to touch other people's bodies, unless they are hot women.

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Want to bet what the unemployment rate is for people who have passed the bar exam? For people with PhDs in physics it's under 1%.


Flubber doesn't have a PhD in physics, and whether or not he's capable of getting one is in question.

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And your point is?

It's not that difficult to find a field where you will make a very decent living if you're among the top 10% in intelligence. It's almost hard not to.

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Not that medecine is the most intellectually challenging profession in the world. Not by a long shot...


I just realised that I spelled it medecine.

Holdover from always talking about medical things in French with my gf.

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Flubber doesn't have a PhD in physics, and whether or not he's capable of getting one is in question.



Nope but the point is that the right degrees can almost guarantee good employment. As for my academic abilities, I don't think they were ever in question but I have no doubt I could have gotten a PhD in physics if I had chosen that path. Instead I picked something else.

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physics is easy, I'm certain Flubber could of gotten a PhD in it.

Healthcare is a tricky subject, as ppl are more willing to pay for something when they are in pain. It's kind of like the old saying; why are divorces so expensive? because they're worth it... only with healthcare instead of divorce. You get what I'm saying.


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That depends. If it were easy we'd have a cure for cancer by now wouldn't we?

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Actually that depends on whether or not there was a job for you, and whether or not anyone would give you the job.


Nobody held a special reserved job all for me. I competed and actually chose between competing job offers. I have now held 5 law jobs and usually it was my choice to leave one for another.

But its not a matter of finding someone to "give you " a job like its a favor or something. Instead I made a choice of a field with a low unemployment rate and was confident in my ability to perform at a level that finding employment wasn't a big issue.


Kid it seems your attitude is almost always passive. In most cases people go out and GET jobs, they are not given.

This seems to permeate your writing . . . The capitalist just has or was given his capital. You can't have any sense that he might have worked his ass off to earn and accumulate that capital to get in the way of your outrage of how unfairly the world treats the workers

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but I have no doubt I could have gotten a PhD in physics if I had chosen that path


It depends. There are a lot of people who can't. Including people who get a bachelor's degree in physics.

It's not an easy subject.

There are obviously less challenging subdisciplines in it, but even they require passing courses which I have no fear of saying that 99% of the general public would not pass and would never be able to pass.

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Wow, KH, you must have the biggest d!ck in the world.

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physics is easy




Sure...

I'm naturally better at it than almost anybody I know, but it gets to be very nontrivial very rapidly at a certain level.

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That depends. If it were easy we'd have a cure for cancer by now wouldn't we?


Let me put it this way: I have absolute confidence in the ability of any doctorate in physics being able to understand anything any physician, biologist or biochemist does with a minimum of background reading. The reverse is simply not true...

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Wow, KH, you must have the biggest d!ck in the world.


Nope. I have a little dick. I make up for it with intellectual vanity.

And I'm being pretty serious here. Physics is full of ****ing smart people. I wish it weren't true. Would make my life easier.

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Kid it sees your attitude is almost always passive. In most cases people go out and GET jobs, they are not given.


I agree. And I think a lot of it has to do with his own life (which I don't know anything about, but which I get the sense has been frustrating for him).

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None of the people with physics degrees who I know are stupid. Maybe arrogant *******s, but not stupid by any means. I'd have to agree with KH.

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Even the stupid people are ****ing smart. It's awful. Hard to coast.

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Arrogance or realism?

I'll leave it to you to decide...

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I wouldn't doubt anything KH says - I'm just amused by the aside that seems to serve no other purpose than to brag about how smart he is.

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Wouldn't you think that health care costs should go down as the baby boomers enter it? Whatever happen to volume reducing costs? It's not like there's a lack of overpaid doctors or anything.!

HMOs tried, but they ended up being pain in the ass more than any real benefit.

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I wouldn't doubt anything KH says - I'm just amused by the aside that seems to serve no other purpose than to brag about how smart he is.


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Wouldn't you think that health care costs should go down as the baby boomers enter it? Whatever happen to volume reducing costs? It's not like there's a lack of overpaid doctors or anything.!

HMOs tried, but they ended up being pain in the ass more than any real benefit.


HMOs actually held down the rate of increase of medical spending to a reasonable level for ~7 years. They appear to have found what efficiencies were available, though. Over the last couple of years the cost of medicine in the US has returned to its catastrophic increase (~8% per annum IIRC)

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Medical costs in the US were always high, but are now reaching disaster levels. Adequate medical care is quickly being priced out of the reach of more and more people.

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Let me put it this way: I have absolute confidence in the ability of any doctorate in physics being able to understand anything any physician, biologist or biochemist does with a minimum of background reading. The reverse is simply not true...


In certain fields of Biology
this "minimum in background reading" would keep you busy for a very long time

Especially in fields like Neurobiology

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I agree. And I think a lot of it has to do with his own life (which I don't know anything about, but which I get the sense has been frustrating for him).


True although he hasn't been detailed on the point, he has talked about some misfortunes in the labor market and is back in school.

I can understand frustration with the job market but my experience has been that if you have a hard time finding a job, you need to treat finding a job as your job. Anyone I know that has that dedication will find something good pretty quick

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Nobody commented on the Canadian insurance rates-- I actually thought they were very reasonable for most specialties. Heck a lawyer can pay several thousands in insurance so something like 5K for a doc doesn't strike me as being out of sorts at all

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Let me put it this way: I have absolute confidence in the ability of any doctorate in physics being able to understand anything any physician, biologist or biochemist does with a minimum of background reading. The reverse is simply not true...


But that is a function of the very specialized nature of the field rather than any measurement of intelligence.


I didn't mean to get into a discussion about physics . . . It may be unreasonable confidence or misplaced optimism but I pretty much think that I could succeed at pretty much any academic program ( I think you would find that attitude prevalent here given the poll where something like 20% of the posters thought they were the smartest person on this board-- I make no claim on the title LOL)

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And your point is?


You couldn't get the point if you were stuck with it.

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You couldn't get the point if you were stuck with it.


Kid but 95% of people that respond to you fail to see what the point is . . .

Now perhaps you are just so much smarter than everyone else that they just don't get your brilliance but I would look to other explainations

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Oh and kid I decided to read up a bit so I picked up a book entitled " A short history of communism" -- It promises to give an analysis and comparison of the communist experience in a number of different countries. I think it will be enlightening and will share once I finish my current book on India

 
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