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GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Jan 2004
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  Old Post 15-05-2005 22:01
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Frankly, this sort of thing pushes me over a border.

I'm leaving the ACDG.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 00:10
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My instinct is no deal.

Our agreement was they (the Spartans) would not build the AV and that we could for all the earlier given reasons.

I am not inclined to go back on that. Plus I don't think their new found friends are that interested as they are currently building tacticals at a massive rate.

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Geo: don't act rash, they will not build the AV because of the agreement we have. They are trying it on.

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Oct 2004
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Dont Worry. Googlie is trying psychological warfare on you.

He is trying to get you to act a certain way. The way he wants you to.

Drogue is offline Drogue
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Oct 2002
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I would also ask you to reconsider. Googlie is roleplaying as the Spartans, and as such is being a bully. It's what the Spartans seem like to most people. However you wish to react, or whatever diplomacy you will conduct and deals you'll agree to, it shouldn't, IMHO, be a reason to leave the DG.

SMAC multiplayer always turns into realpolitik, as people betray others when it means they can get ahead. Renegotiation of deals seems quite common, in terms of trying to squeeze another faction for more.

If there is more to this, however, please fill me in, so I can investigate any nastiness or impropriety.

mart7x5 is offline mart7x5
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 03:15
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quote:
Originally posted by GeoModder
I'm leaving the ACDG.
Geo, c'mon...

foolish_icarus is offline foolish_icarus
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the thievery continues
Nov 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 03:38
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he's no longer listed in the DA civgroup list. You'll have to contact him in another way.

Drogue is offline Drogue
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Actually, this is more worrying than thought. Geo's act has left the Angel's without a mod, and while I can top/detop threads, I can't authorise new members.

Cataphract887 is offline Cataphract887
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Apr 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 04:08
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Our agreement was they (the Spartans) would not build the AV and that we could for all the earlier given reasons.

I am not inclined to go back on that. Plus I don't think their new found friends are that interested as they are currently building tacticals at a massive rate.


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Geo: don't act rash, they will not build the AV because of the agreement we have. They are trying it on.


agreed on all points. hope you guys get him back....

on an unrelated related point,i may be able to become active in a few days again(finally!)

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 04:27
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On a seperate point. I am still the Mod as far as I know. I can authorise people and top threads.

Drogue is offline Drogue
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Then that bit's ok

mart7x5 is offline mart7x5
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 16-05-2005 13:00
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I sent a message to Geo that he is awaited in EM Central Command. He should come if Angel Spirit means something for him.

Meanwhile let us be cool about it and just analyze the situation. We cannot at the moment respond to Spartan bullying with force, but if needs be the time will come. We need to work on some good strategy.

Dead or alive we will complete the mission and the game.

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Oct 2004
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Yes; just like life you slow down for the speed bump and then keep on going.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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  Old Post 17-05-2005 01:28
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I also sent a message.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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It doesn't look as if Geo is coming back for a while. We need a new ambassador to the other factions.

Volunteers? ForesterSof?

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Oct 2004
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I will need someone to hold my hand, someone to ask questions and someone to hold my mouth shut at times.

With this done willing to give it a try.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 17-05-2005 20:56
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Mart, Flameflash and I will chip in. Don't worry. You have been following the discussions so you draft a response or draft a question to whichever faction, post it here first and if no one objects send it or if we make suggestions for amendment, include them if it seems we all agree and away you go.

Welcome Ambassador.

Go announce yourself in the main forum as our new Ambassador and then via email they or we will send you the links to the private interfaction forums.

Your first task is with the Spartans to see if they agree to trade Cyber for NG.

Your second task is to say we hold Spartans to their agreement re AV. Their proposal as posted has already cost us a DJ/infotrader.

FlameFlash is offline FlameFlash
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Dec 2001
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I highly agree with Herc's post, and I will provide input when I can.

A real shame about Geo, I wonder what else is going on that made this the straw to break the proverbial back?

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Oct 2004
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From his posts it seems that this game maginfied RL views/problems and the Spartan Letter put him over the edge.

Post:

Hello All

With the way things have been progressing I am now the Ambassador for the Data Angles.

As you will find out I am a Graduate of DAU and thus hold a Doctorite in Environmental Linking with Minors in XenoPsychology and Bad Spelling. This leads to a personality of pure science.

Yes/No, On/Off; just like our computer systems.

As a new arival into this post my responce time and nowlege will increase. Untill then please be patient.

ForesterSOF
Data Angel Ambassador

For a letter:

As I need to know all that is going on in the Diplomatic Arena and the working coppies were destroyed by a Worm could you email me an update as to your views and positions.

Thankyou and l am looking forward to hearing from all.

ForesterSOF
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Letter to Spartans

Hello

As you know We wish to trade Cybernetics for Neural Grafting.

I feel that such a trade would benefit both Factions in their plans of growth.

Another point is the agreement of Asetic Virtues as it is now.

ForesterSOF
ssjwyatt@cableone.net

Last edited by ForesterSOF on 17-05-2005 at 23:58

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Remind Spartans that such a tech trade offer was their suggestion in the first instance and after discussion within our faction we are pleased to say we have agreed to trade..

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Oh and the convention is that you address the leaders of the other factions by their chosen designations. So it would be
Colonel Googlie or whatever.


However I notice postings that were more informal.

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Alpha Centuri
Oct 2004
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General post made.
General letter sent.
Letter to Colonel Googlie sent.

Now to update my tech tree as to where each tech we have came from and from what circumstances.

As I see it all diplomatic ties are stable at the moment except for the letter to Spartans.

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Our there any diplo threads except the ACDG and eventis ones?

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There is a Spartan Diplo forum somewhere.

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looked for it on Googlies's site but did not see it so if hear nothing will email googlie telling her that the Spartan/DA forum URL ca not be found and to please send it to me.

FlameFlash is offline FlameFlash
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(him, unless you've heard something that I haven't...)

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Letter for Googlie:

Dear Colonel Googlie

I find myself unable to find the link to the Spartan/Data Angel Diplomatic Forum. I find that a direct link between our two factions would be beneficial over sending messages back and forth.

Could you please send me the link or do we need to make one.

ForesterSOF
DA Ambasador

I also want to send simular letters to Andid or the Morgans and Chaos Theory of the Gaians.

If these are not their ambasadors please correct me.

Good communication with all factions will help our cause.

Last edited by ForesterSOF on 18-05-2005 at 20:49

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Try Bin Travlin for the gaians

ForesterSOF is offline ForesterSOF
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Sent out

Now it is a waiting game then compile the info.

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In the DA/S embasy.

Also got a fairly recent list of what the Gaians have technologicaly.

It is looking like they will go to Advanced Ecological Engineering or Organic Superlubricant.

This depending on wether they want to teraform or increase their attack level.

Anyone have a recent Spartan or Morgan tech list?

 
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