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Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
Sep 2002
time: 05:25
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Thanks ForesterSOF I am going out again now. I will be back in about 3 hours.
Before we progress we need to decide our response to Yang.
Maybe you could test the other response to him : that is to pry from our cold dead fingers., to see if he announces Vendetta.
Last edited by Hercules on 07-04-2005 at 03:31
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ForesterSOF
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Alpha Centuri
Oct 2004
time: 22:25
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I am a night worker and will be going to sleep in about 30 min (noon).
My guess is that we could get away with denying him once but not twice.
If you want to play it safe then we can give him some info. It doesnot matter I feel since S has CDF already and S will go after Yang as soon as posible. Even earlier if us, Gaians and Morgans fight him.
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I was wrong. He does Vendetta but Lal and Gaians are Pacted with us and Lal becomes the planet Govenor so I would play it "All or Nothing" and give Yang nothing and move all units with any defenceive capability to the Yang border.
I dont like bullying.
Just for curiosity I tried it with giving him II and then he wanted EE. In closing he wants us to go to a police state immediatly.
If we went police our economy and research would suffer and if we did not go to police then Yang would come knocking at our door again I feel.
Another reason why I would say no now and not get in the mess of apeasing one that wants to destroy us.
Last edited by ForesterSOF on 07-04-2005 at 00:04
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mart7x5
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That is very interesting. Spartans seem to be very positive about us.
Also delaying war with Yang is quite ok.
I have to open the turn.
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Ok, some proposals soon in 2160-2170 thread. I have an idea for pod popping near our transport. If there is IOD we could safely escape there.
Last edited by mart7x5 on 07-04-2005 at 05:44
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mart7x5
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Have we seen this from Kasipeia (Spartan)?
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This is an important matter and as such it took a while for the Junta to come up with a response, but to compensate it is a rather exhaustive one.
To the Data Angels:
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We would like to inform you, that we are now in Pact agreement with Gaian Union. We were discussing this with Gaians for long time and in fact sent the pre-accepted offer in 2164, which was before you declared vendetta on the Gaian Union. This pact is intended as economic in nature.
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This development has caused some concern in the Spartan ranks, but we sympathise with the situation and respect the fact that you are willing to honour previously made agreements. It is just an unfortunate circumstance that of all the possible factions it was the Gaians.
To that end, we would appreciate it if you were to remain neutral in the current ongoing conflicts between ourselves, the Morganites and the Gaians.
In fact, with Planetary Governor Lal, we are planning extensive multifactional peace negotiations, and I was wondering if the Data Angels would be willing to mediate between us and our opponents-in-vendetta. We with the Peacekeepers could take care of the actual arrangements, but you would take the role of leading the summit once it's held.
How about it? We want peace, but our diplomatic relations to them have been effectively cut off and we have no intention of trusting any treaty brokered directly between ourselves and them. You as the middleman would make breaking their word all the more difficult for them, which in turn would mean that we could trust those promises.
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We also would like to ask you if you would be willing to enter the Pact agreement with our faction.
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After careful deliberation, our answer is a reserved "yes". I must stress that the nature of this pact must be resolved before we engage in it. The economic sanctions on us will not be lifted until MY 2169, and entering into a pact until then would obviously be of no use. We thus have ample time to iron out the details.
We currently view the geopolitical situation as a very dangerous one as far as your and our factions are concerned. If the peace negotiations between us and the Axis of Weasels (our name for the Morganite-Gaian coalition) will not work out and it will become clear that they intend to reach supremacy by using military force, we may be forced to ask you to join us in a direct military alliance, in an effort to succesfully defend ourselves.
You see, the Gaians and Morganites are, incredibly enough, forming up a bloc of power. With the Gaians and the Morganites in a deep union and us two working as separated entities, we will be cut down to size by the Morganite-Gaian buzzsaw piecemeal until they can sort out the winner by themselves.
The Spartan Federation, naturally, does not like this development and will do anything to stop it from happening. Therefore we believe it is in the best interests of our factions if we form a thorough and full pact with complete co-operation in military, economic and scientific matters. We need to establish a counterbalance to the Axis of Weasels.
Clearly our factions would complement each other greatly: your probe power can keep our weapons up to date while we provide the actual hardware to work with - the boots on the ground, so to speak. The opposing bloc on the other hand lacks military strength, although they do make up for it by economic strength and taking advantage of native life.
This pact would then be dissolved by a mutual agreement when the Morganites and Gaians no longer pose a threat to us, and we would sort out the inevitable victor amongst ourselves. Again, we hope it won't come to that, but everything is hingeing on the upcoming peace talks and the attitudes of the Morganites and Gaians.
Of course, a pact of such nature requires a great deal of trust. We wish to cultivate this by deepening our technological co-operation with you before we actually declare the pact. We are interested in providing you with Doctrine: Air Power and Cyberethics.
The deal with D:AP is a rather elaborate arrangement, as is expected since it's one of Colonel Maniac's ideas. I will explain it further later on, but in a nutshell it would allow you to purchase D:AP from us for the price of a set amount of credits (100 to 150 EC is what has been mentioned in the Junta meeting).
You would have to vow not to trade D:AP on to any third party, however in exchange for this we would (by twiddling around a bit with our pactmate Lal's research) give you an extra tech that you could trade away at your own leisure. Again, I'll get back to the details - or Maniac will, lest my head explode.
Cyberethics, on the other hand, is a bit simpler matter: we are researching it and as soon as we have it, we can give it to you, and you in turn could switch research to a new tech which you would give to us.
However, if you are not interested in creating a long-standing and involved alliance with us, we will have to reconsider these tech trades and the possibility of a strictly economic pact.
Signed with best regards,
Lt. Colonel Kassiopeia. |
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03-04-2005 04:34
Especially taking over by the dictator
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