22-05-2005 20:14									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg Alonso cut the corner, but so did Webber. So, no one gained an unfair advantage.

I don't think so. On the first try, Webber had already passed Alonso, and only clipped the corner by a little bit, whereas Alonso went straight across and ended up ahead again.

	23-05-2005 02:55									#122
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Err, before the corner Alonso was leading Webber. Alonso made an error, so did Webber. After the corner Alonso leads Webber. I don´t see how this could be considered unfair advantage? OTOH if Webber hadn´t clipped the corner and Alonso gone straight ahead, then it would´ve been an entirely different matter as Alonso would´ve had an unfair advantage of not having to take the corner. You see the difference?

	23-05-2005 18:54									#123
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Well, Raikkonen is the man and McClaren is the car. Perfect driving in perfect car. Alonso´s championship is at risk. Even Montoya could be a dangerous opponent if he wakes up.

Williams is coming back. Heidfeld was better than Webber. It seems that the Australian doesnt know how overtake a car with heavy problems.

About Renault they totally ruinded the race piting so early. Because that Fisi lost some places and the extra weight helped a lot to destroy the tires at the last third of the race. Both Renaults tyres were a mess. They seemed slicks. Alonso´s car rear light even began to light up because he had to apply a traction program for wet races.
Fisi was near to Alonso level in the race. It should have been an easy 2-3 for Renault but they screwed it completly due to a tyre devouring car and a very poor strategy (maybe because they were looking for a win) Car-tyres must improve a lot for Nurburgring .

Trulli gone crazy. Passing is not one of his strong points definitively. Ralf was OK even after messing the Q1.

Ferrari continues not seeming Ferrari.

	23-05-2005 22:08									#124
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quote: best Monaco race I´ve seen in ages.

well, most of you have said what I would say, so...

raikkonen
heidfeld
webber

alonso - he couldn't do better with the car in such bad conditions

ferrari keeps struggling, but it's hard for them. loved how schumi took the chance to pass barrichello when the brazilian gave him some space. and barrichello was complaining later - 'blah blah he didn't have to do it blah blah'. schumi just said: ' I came here to race'.

	28-05-2005 20:51									#125
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Well, well, well. Heidfeld and Williams are on the rise... First ever pole for Heidfeld and Webber clinching third place on the grid. With Kimi second, Trulli fourth, and Alonso sixth, this will be really hard to predict the winner this time. Renault seems to be struggling somewhat, and Williams and McLaren are showing exceptionally good form. And don´t forget Schumi and Trulli...

My predictions for Nürnburgring

1) Kimi
2) Heidfeld/Alonso
3) Alonso/Heidfeld

	29-05-2005 04:31									#126
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Nah, I don't think that Wiliams has it yet, but they are making the races more spectable. Ferrari ? and with MS ? well I think thay they are hiding their cards.

My time to repeat myself :

1: Kimi
2: alonso
3: M Schumacher

	29-05-2005 18:46									#127
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Looks like

1. Alonso
2. Heidfeld
3. Barichello

Raikonnen = pwned

	29-05-2005 19:07									#128
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OMFG! What an amazing ending to the race!! Too bad for Kimi, but yay Alonso!

Kimis accident is definitely one of the more spectacular in recent years. And he almost took one of the BARs with him as he slid off the track...

Another great race, and so far the best season for a long, long, time!

	29-05-2005 19:55									#129
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Wow i didnt know that there was race this weekend too. I came home just in time to see Fisichella´s car stalled.

Alonso, a great heavy-fuel race. Bad luck at start when ralfi messed completly the GP start (as usual), touched Alonso relegating him behind Coulthard along 20 laps. But he was pressing Kimi the rest of the race, before his second pitstop he was near to catch Raikkonen but he pushed too much and went off road in that curve. At the end grrreat luck when Kimi car "se fue al carajo" (as Alonso said in the press conference ) in the last lap. Alonso WDC seems much more secure now.

Heidfeld superb. Very low-fuel perfect race. Nothing to add.

Barrichelo was better that Schumi. It seems he is a bit tyred of being the second driver. Too late maybe.

Kimi, this time he was not light years ahead as last two races. Maybe because that he was under pressure all the race and made many silly mistakes destroying his front right wheel. Very bad luck too becuase his car didnt lasted only a lap more but it was all his fault indeed. He couldnt manage the pressure this time. Iceman melted IMO.

Resuming, incredible race, above all because that Hollywood style finish.

	29-05-2005 20:04									#130
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Kimi must be haunted by some evil spirit.

The real surprise was Coulthard/red bull. If he hadn't got that drive through penalty he would at least been second. According to a danish engineer at the team they have problems with the performance of their engines - could be fun if they get it fixed

	29-05-2005 20:15									#131
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Hu.. I forgot Coulthard. Supeb race too. One of the best drivers today.

	29-05-2005 22:40									#132
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Bad luck for Raikkonen... But he made some mistakes too.

Both Heidfeld and Barrichello were great. 3-stops strategy very well executed.

Coulthard was also good, considering his car.

Alonso... hmm, I don't know, he was certainly consistent, but not brilliant IMO. Of course, a little bit of luck is always good too.

Massa was doing a superb race until he made one of his usual mistakes - he is a fast driver, but sometimes he just pushes too hard. Could have grabbed some important points today. Maybe he'll learn the lesson (but I don't think so).

And, to be honest, the race became really interesting only on the final laps, because until then everything was being decided on pit stops. But it was a good race.

Next is in Canada. I love that circuit.

	29-05-2005 23:16									#133
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Yes, Coulthard did a great race. And Red Bull has so far taken 19 points. Compare this to Jaguars 10 points last season with basically the same car

	12-06-2005 01:06									#134
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Are there anyone that dare to give a shot at wich **** words Barichello used when his engine broke down in qual ? (of course in Brazilian )

Looks like it's going to be an interesting start with Schumi and Alonso as second and third.

Even though he starts as 7, my predict is

1 Kimi
2 Schumi
3 Alonso

Button may have pole, but I guess that he only have fumes in his tank.

And best of all, Trulli is way down in the grid so he can't mess it up for others.

	12-06-2005 06:44									#135
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I think Button might stir up things a little. If it´s enough to get him to the podium I don´t know. But a podium of

1) Alonso
2) Kimi
3) Button

is quite possible.

And I think that Bari speaks portugese, not brazilian

	12-06-2005 06:54									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg And I think that Bari speaks portugese, not brazilian

Considering that we have a gazillion local variations of danish, I guess that there may be some kind of difference between **** spoken in portugese and brazilian

Just think about the way you swear considering that you are an rebellion danish province

	12-06-2005 07:26									#137
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Nah, dirty words are the same both in Portugal and in Brazil.

I really don't think Schumi can win. A podium, maybe, but not victory.

Raikonnen starts from a bad position, especially considering how complicated that first corner is - accidents are not unusual in that place.

Alonso is in a good position to win. Let's see what strategy Renault has planned for him.

	12-06-2005 20:46									#138
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Considering that we have a gazillion local variations of danish, I guess that there may be some kind of difference between **** spoken in portugese and brazilian Just think about the way you swear considering that you are an rebellion danish province

But it´s still danish, it´s not like swiss german or pigeon english...

And Västergötland has never been under the yoak of danish oppression like Skåne, Halland and Blekinge

	12-06-2005 23:53									#139
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Meh Good race with a lot of incidents and really good racing. But no points for Renault or BAR Raikonnens win is good for the rest of the season though...

	13-06-2005 00:43									#140
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I was really concerned when both Renaults took the first two places after the start. "Oh, no, Alonso will win again and the rest of the season will be boring..." Thankfully both he and Fisichella had to abandon.

Impressive race by Barrichello. Sure, he had luck with all those cars retiring from the race, but even so he was consistently fast and did not make great mistakes.

Being a fan of Schumi, I was delighted to see him on the podium again...

Massa did a pretty good job too, especially because in the end his tyres were almost gone and he still managed to hold Webber behind him.

Now, what the hell happened to Williams? They were bad during the whole weekend...

Weird moment: Sato returning to the race 24 laps after he retired. I didn't even know that this was allowed. I mean, the team returned him to the race probably because they wanted to test something, but, hey, there was a race happening there!

All in all, a good race. Alonso still is in the lead, but now the battle gets more interesting.

	13-06-2005 02:00									#141
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Sato returned because if he finished he would get a better start in next weeks qual - don't know where he ends but probably still better.

Yeah, great race - could have been fun if there had been a heavy shower in the last 10 laps just to stir things up a little .

	13-06-2005 04:36									#142
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Strange race. All kimi´s bad luck have been payed back generously. Fisi, Alonso and Montoya would have finished for sure ahead of him today.

Champioship is now more interesting because points, allthough Alonso´s 22 points gap seems much more wide now since Renaults seem extremely strong now. It seems difficult to see again McLarens so strong again like in past races.

Fisi has bad luck, again. Great start. He could have won today.

Alonso was the quickest today along with Montoya but he made a mistake. His fault.

Montoya was in the pace with Alonso and he would have won. But his race was totally screwed by that safety car. However the black flag was his fault too.

Kimi had extreme good luck today. First and above all the incredible DNF of the three first cars and second because that safety car. His race was not brilliant in any way but he survived and won.

Michael was acceptable. allthought it seems he lacks a bit of ambition right now (or maybe simply he lacks speed) he should/could have pushed harder in last laps IMHO.

Nice race for Barrichelo, started in last position and finished in podium. Allthough there were a lot of DNFs ahead: BARs, Reanults, Trulli, Montoya...

	13-06-2005 21:58									#143
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Another great race to watch.
I think they were harsh on Montoya. I would have liked to have seen him to the end of the race.
Massa is continuing to show that he can be fast, but he also demonstrated a lot of maturity in his battle with Webber.

	13-06-2005 22:25									#144
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His own team was harsh on Montoya too. They SHOULD have pitted him first when the safety car went out because he was ahead of Kimi in the race and he was being faster too. They screwed his race completely. It seems they have clear priorities in McLaren.

	18-06-2005 07:07									#145
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This may be called a little threadjacking, but since it's also about racing and a once a year race, I guess that you don't mind

Besides the Indy Formula 1 race this weekend, there are also Le Mans 24 hour.

I guess that we all agree that a F1 race is tough to drive and is hard on the cars, but wouldn't it be fair to say that a F1 is 100m sprint and Le Mans is the marathon ? Ok, regulatives has been softend so you may have three drivers that max may drive 4 hours out of six and max 14 out of 24, but still the cars has to perform on top level for 24 hours.

This year is a little special. I guess that you all know Tom Kristensen, but do you really know his claim to fame ?

Currently he shares max number of won Le Mans races with Jacky Ickx wich is six times, but he has managed to do it five times in a row wich noone else has done - if he wins this years race, he gets max number and secures his stretch record for at least six years.

Sadly he (and his team) is a little handicapped this year. During the preparations to this years race they got their 2004 monocoque destroyed and are going to use a 2001 ditto, wich of course misses what development has been done. Due to regulation they also has to carry an additional 50 kg of deadweight so they cannot go as fast as the others on longsides.

To get around this little problem they seems to go for a breaking strategy that would scare the sh!t out of me. I have to translate this from a danish paper, so it might not be too clear, but I hope I don't mess it up too much - Their car has a better breaking performance than the competitors, so they are planning to overtake them in the curves because they can keep speed for approx 40 meters longer, but that isn't just a piece of cake - to quote TC a little roughly "breaking down from 310 km/hr 40 meters later than another car before a turn, then we come with 310 side by side with a car that only goes by 200 km/hr and funny things may happen".

Oh, you may have guessed it, but Tom Kristensen is danish, so I hope the best

Last, I guess that you all have seen what happens when a F1 racer looses downforce, but when a Le Mans racer looses it, the car acts slightly different - just take a look of this little clip of a Mercedes-Benz from the 1999 Le Mans.

http://www.968.net/images/images/FlyingMercedes.mpeg

	18-06-2005 22:44									#146
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michelin is telling drivers not to race on sunday if they cant figure out what is making their tires explode. they supply 7 out of the 10 teams with their tires.

	19-06-2005 00:54									#147
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I'm so pissed off that I really wanted that teams which have Michelin really decided not to race so that the event could be cancelled by FIA.

I'm pissed off because Rede Globo, the TV network which has the rights to broadcast F1 here in Brazil, will cut the race after 45 minutes to transmit a ****ing soccer game from an unimportant competition. Who cares about Brazil x Mexico, really?

I'd rather watch the race, it seems like interesting things could happen tomorrow, what with Alonso starting in 6th and Trulli on pole... Damn.

	19-06-2005 04:43									#148
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Well, approx 9 hours into the Le Mans race, it seems that Tom Kristensen and his team are aiming for victory - currently 1 lap ahead

	19-06-2005 14:44									#149
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Isnt it boring to see cars going around along 24 hours? However 9 hours and only a lap ahead seems a very close race.

About the Michelin question, it would end with all michelin teams sanctioned becuase a tyre change before the race. So, we would see Ferrari some laps ahead and Jordans and Minardis holding all the field behind them.

	19-06-2005 18:14									#150
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The race tonight will be very interesting indeed. Toyotas first ever pole, Alonso starting from 6th position and of course the whole tyre issue. Raikkonnen also looks extremely strong and won´t give anything away for free...

Let´s just hope we don´t see anything like this tonight...

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