07-05-2005 16:48									#61
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I think A-M is doomed. With the last save, we were weak militarly relative to BOH, and strong relative to A-M, which of course, means there is a greater discrepancy between A-M and BOH.

	07-05-2005 21:22									#62
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Yowch. I hope they're building spears and finding a nice hill for their last city.

	24-06-2005 07:56									#63
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Do we have a border agreement with AM??

E_T

	24-06-2005 12:20									#64
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Nope.

	25-06-2005 01:10									#65
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So, shall we contact AM? We've been foaming at the mouth with regards to BOH without actually trying to find out the truth of the matter.

	25-06-2005 05:37									#66
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We need to get more active in regards to all of the FAM matters.

E_T

	25-06-2005 13:11									#67
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Who does that?

	25-06-2005 19:54									#68
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Anyone who want to help, for one. If we don't have an active FAM, especially with the rapid pace of this game, then things don't get done and oppertunities pass us by.

E_T

	25-06-2005 21:06									#69
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Hm, took me twenty hours to figure out FAM stands for Foreign Affairs Minister. It would be great to not use abbreviations (which are not in the oxford dictionary ) until AFTER they have been written in full length...

This includes NC (No change), FAM, WF and several other I´ve ran across...

You know, in the Morgan Team of the SMAC-DG we also have ministers, but they´re called CTO, CMO, PRC and the like. I wouldn´t bet all of you could guess the actual meanings at first glance...

	26-06-2005 14:04									#70
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Had me tangled.

	26-06-2005 22:08									#71
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IWVC
(I Was Very Confused)

Last edited by skrobism on 27-06-2005 at 21:31

	27-06-2005 08:34									#72
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Micha - sorry about that. Those of us involved in various civ3 demogames have a certain lexicon we are all familiar with - inlcuding many of the civ3 terms (eg GA = golden age, GL = Great Library or Great Leader depending on context, FP= Forbidden Palace, etc, etc)

I am trying to recall who the original ambassadors were. I sort of took over when everyone disappeared for awhile, and then I have been very busy the last 2-3 weeks. Looks OK now for awhile.

I will contact AM to find out how they are doing and what is the status of their relationship with BOH.

	27-06-2005 08:49									#73
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Letter sent to Krill and ormuzd...

quote: Gentlemen - Greetings and regards to the citizens of Ankh-Morpork from Queen and Goddess Inanna. First let me apologize for the long absence of any correspondence. I have been very busy in RL for a number of weeks now, and although activity has picked up in Babylon, we did not reassign ambassador duties. To start with, congratulations on surviving the BOH onslaught. Deftly done. There was also quite a lot of pressure being applied behind the scenes by us and others for the Hoard to back off. We can discuss this further via chat some some day if you like. We have a couple of things to discuss. To start with - technology. We have completed Monarchy and acquired Literature. Is there some deal we can do? Also - we seem to be in some competition for land - and we are not complaing about it as all is fair in love and war and land settlement . Just thinking that we should stay in touch to avoid any tension which might arise. And finally - we see that you have agreed to a ROP agreement with BOH. Can you advise as to what this about (did you have any choice?) and what your relationship is with BOH now. Again - my apologies for my lack of correspondence, and I look forward to re-connecting with your civilization. Yours truly... Beta of Babylon.

	27-06-2005 09:10									#74
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quote: To start with, congratulations on surviving the BOH onslaught. Deftly done. There was also quite a lot of pressure being applied behind the scenes by us and others for the Hoard to back off. We can discuss this further via chat some some day if you like.

You mean BOH not liking how we proposed to split the land post-AM?

I don't mean to nitpick, but it's probably better not to lie this way when (so far as I can see) there's nothing to be gained.

Also, do we have the rights to trade Literature on? I can't remember...

	27-06-2005 19:18									#75
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Their reply...

(a bit 'kissy-face' IMO, and note the comment that we could have done more.)

Do you believe the explanation of the ROP? Will be interesting to see what BOH says.

quote: Hello Beta, We are glad to hear your life is getting the right priorities As you have been busy we were too. And this is one of the reasons to not contact you during these past months. Thank you for your support to us during the war with the Horde although we have expected more. But keeping on our side is appreciated. The Horde was driven out and we have succeeded defending our homes. At one point we have agreed noone will gin bnefits from the war and decided to sign a peace treaty. The right of passage was signed just to allow the Horde troops to withdraw ASAP from our territories. As about Monarchy - we should have it very soon. We were researching it from a long time and IMO we should have it next turn. But I don't have the game here, on my work and I can't check this right away. The lack of Literature really surprises me because we had an agreement with one of the other teams. I'll look into this problem and very probably we will have it. But thank you for your proposals. I hope our good relations will continue and we could make some research plans inthe future to avoid research of the same techs. Regards, Ormuzd, representative of the Patriarch of Ankh-Morpork

	27-06-2005 20:18									#76
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Signing a ROP to withdrawl troops???

I can see why you think that is suspicious.

	27-06-2005 21:38									#77
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Very odd. more comments in BOH thread.

	29-06-2005 19:32									#78
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I will contact AM today.

Should I make any comments about the proposed trades, or just send a greeting?

	29-06-2005 20:03									#79
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AM is asking in the public forum about our involvement in the attack on DR. I will have to comment in my message to AM. I will assure AM that this is for the betterment of the world, and wish them peace. (Yes/No?)

	29-06-2005 22:08									#80
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Well, DR knows it, though they still hope we won´t attack actively... OTOH, there´s nothing they can do about it now. So heck, just tell the truth.

	29-06-2005 22:10									#81
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That was close. I just sent the following to AM.

quote: Hail Ormuzd - Representative of the Patriarch of Ankh-Morpork, I am the Vox Inannum, Babylonian Minister of Morporkian Affairs, the ambassador assigned to your glorious nation. I see that you have been in communications with Beta. Beta's tasks in Babylon and RL have necessitated that duties be delegated. Be assured that I have authority to deal with your nation. I sent this email via the link on Apolyton. I request that you send me your email address or the addresses of the other Morporkians that should be included in future communications. You can reach me at theidiots@yahoo.com. Babylon proposed making a deal for Monarchy & Literature. I see that Monarchy is nearly yours anyway. Let us be the first to congratulate your new king or his rise to the throne. Do you need Literature? Being from a nation that has literature, let me tell you that there is nothing like curling up on your bed roll with a good scroll. If that does not interest you, keep in mind that we are always open to trades of technologies. You are our neighbors and friends. Our borders are of course in competition. Let us keep the channels of communications open so that any future disputes might be settled peacefully. We seek a long term friendship with the fine people of Ankh-Morpork. You asked in the public forum if Babylon will also attack the Desolators. Our role in this has yet to be played. While we urged Blood Oath Horde to ease off on its attack of your lands, our friends the Blood Oath Horde and Euphorica asked for our assistance in the Land Of Desolation. With that and with your army's valiant fight - you have peace and we are coming to their aide. We hope to play a small role in making this world a better place for all nations. Peace to the Morporkians. Praise to Inanna, -Skrobism Vox Inannum Babylonian Minister of Morporkian Affairs

	29-06-2005 23:29									#82
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quote: Originally posted by skrobism You can reach me at theidiots@yahoo.com.

That'll impress them

	29-06-2005 23:52									#83
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It usually does.

	30-06-2005 00:47									#84
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Wait a minute, they have Monarchy? How?

	30-06-2005 01:13									#85
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AM claim to have been researching it. Read Beta's post from 06.27.2005 09:18 above.

	30-06-2005 01:22									#86
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Ah, whoops, nm.

	30-06-2005 05:03									#87
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skro - great piece of writing!

You do our service proud.

	30-06-2005 05:07									#88
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Awe shucks. I try.

	30-06-2005 22:50									#89
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Since I got Krill and Ormuzd's emails I resent directly to their email.

	01-07-2005 13:29									#90
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Nice!!!