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whats more likely drake?

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This is pretty common, actually. It doesn't give you a free pass to screw around on your spouse and it requires you to care for him/her to the best of your ability. Yeh, life sucks some times. It was always thus.


Of course, if he were a Republican congressman, he would have served her divorce papers as soon as she was out of surgery.

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That he's after the money. Do you really think a man would go to these lengths to fulfill his dead wife's supposed wish, especially when he's already moved on and started another family? That's just plain gullibility...

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whats more likely drake?
Drake is already convinced by some right-wing op-eds that the guy is just a greedy sob despite all the evidence to the contrary.

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whats more likely drake?


That he's after the money. Do you really think a man would go to these lengths to fulfill his dead wife's supposed wish, especially when he's already moved on and started another family? That's just plain gullibility...


even if theres no money there?

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$50,000 left at last count. I'd kill you for that kind of cash...

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Are you going to sit there and say hes pulling the plug because he loves her. Even when he can just walk away and let her family deal with her. I say hes got a vested stake in this and it isnt love.


I'd fight my wife's family attempt to keep my wife's body alive if she'd expressed to me a wish not to be kept in such a state. I'd fight as long as it took, even as I moved on with my life.

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I havent slandered him yet have I, why would I start now.


Yes you have.

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$50,000 left at last count. I'd kill you for that kind of cash...


please, youd kill me for free.

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$50,000 left at last count. I'd kill you for that kind of cash...


So we know you're immoral, fine. That has nothing to do with Michael Schiavo.

I still see no rational reason why he, if he was after money, he would have turned down the offers of millions of dollars. That's the huge, gaping hole in your "logic" through which one could drive a train. As noted, he has been "publicly shamed" already. Any such shame that would have come years ago would be pretty minimal next to having millions of dollars. Today he has no millions, and people camped outside his home everyday calling him a murderer.

It's sad to see you tying yourself in logical knots like this. Just another stooge in the right-wing campaign to smear Michael Schiavo.

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please, youd kill me for free.


Touche. Well played, MRT144. Well played indeed...

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It's sad to see you tying yourself in logical knots like this.




I'm slightly inebriated and speculating wildly, not "tying" myself "in logical knots". I stopped taking this thread seriously a long time ago...

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I'm slightly inebriated and speculating wildly, not "tying" myself "in logical knots". I stopped taking this thread seriously a long time ago...
nice way to cop out

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It's the truth. You and Boris want them to kill Terri Schiavo and nothing anyone can say will make you see that it might be a bad idea. With that being the case, what's the point of arguing seriously? Might as well have some fun...

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This thread is proof that conservatives are evil.

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nothing anyone can say will make you see that it might be a bad idea.
nope, if the courts ruled that she wasn't PVS, I would disagree with pulling the tube

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This thread is proof that conservatives are evil.
QFT

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This thread is proof that conservatives are evil.


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nope, if the courts ruled that she wasn't PVS, I would disagree with pulling the tube


Not even that. If there was majority medical opinion in favor of keeping her going in hopes of rehabilitation, I'd say give it a shot. If she hadn't spent 15 years in her vegetative state with no improvement, I'd say give it more time.

But enough is enough. She's never improved, and the overwhelming medical consensus is that she will never improve. There has to come a point where people stop living in denial and let this poor woman die in peace.

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* DinoDoc decides to discuss something interesting

Why is Congress trying to pointlessly tamper with State's rights over something so trivial? It's one thing for a state legistlature to inject itself into this sad affair but it is quite disturbing (to me at least) for Congress to throw out any pretense of Federalism to do so.

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State's rights aren't interesting...

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Good point DD.

IMHO, it's either one of two things.... or both...

1. the GOP wants to rally it's base around something

2. they want to distract the public from real issues like SS privatization

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Why is Congress trying to pointlessly tamper with State's rights over something so trivial?


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All this is is a way for the GOP to stir up their base.

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State's rights aren't interesting...
They are more interesting to me than a man's fight to starve his wife to death.

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Tom DeLay has taken up the cause to divert attention away from his ethical lapses. He's been ducking the media for weeks, but now he's come leaping out gleefully in the Schiavo case because he can use it to take the spotlight off of his shameful misconduct.

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They are more interesting to me than a man's fight to starve his wife to death.


Neither is interesting...

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2. they want to distract the public from real issues like SS privatization
Baseball makes for a more entertaining past time for lawmakers desiring to avoid dealing with Social Security.

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Baseball makes for a more entertaining past time for lawmakers desiring to avoid dealing with Social Security.
yeah, but the Schiavo case gets the base riled up against the EVIL LIBERALS...

with baseball, the parties are united... they don't want unity or bipartisanship

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with baseball, the parties are united... they don't want unity or bipartisanship
The unity is that no one wants to deal with SS, Sava. They might as well not deal with it together.

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The unity is that no one wants to deal with SS, Sava. They might as well not deal with it together.
nah, the free market right wingers want it gone... but I think they realized that they don't have a shot at it and want people to forget they even mentioned it.

 
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