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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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just now....
Aqua says:
evening
Paddy says:
hello
Aqua says:
looks like we don't have a game anymore
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
very very sad
Aqua says:
a great pity
Paddy says:
snoop was online for hours
Paddy says:
but would not play the save
Paddy says:
waiting for the others
Paddy says:
who ever they are
Paddy says:
I asked him who are the others, but that was one question he would not answer
Paddy says:
any ideas
Aqua says:
there aren't any
Aqua says:
he is the only one around at the moment
Paddy says:
that is what we all thought
Paddy says:
most strange
Paddy says:
have you worked out which tech you will research?
Aqua says:
we are doing Engineering
Aqua says:
and you?
Paddy says:
Chiv
Paddy says:
did you do the deal with Lost Boys? for tech research as well as we talked about?
Aqua says:
no, not recently
Aqua says:
which tech was that?
Paddy says:
ok
Aqua says:
it's hard to remember
Paddy says:
no idea
Aqua says:
we took peace from the Babs for Monarchy and a bunch of gold
Aqua says:
remember?
Paddy says:
you were talking am to do one, Lb another, us chiv and you one
Paddy says:
this was way before babs deal
Paddy says:
well done
Aqua says:
ah yes, we have a deal with AM but none with LB
Paddy says:
that is a shame, they being such a good partner last era and all
Aqua says:
there is only so many deals you can have with a research bottleneck
Paddy says:
hehehe indeed, like Japan all into one line
Paddy says:
my number crunchers reckon that all goes well with Bard war then we will have chiv in 25 - 27 turns
Paddy says:
I had hoped sooner, but troops were stripping the economy etc
Aqua says:
Ah yes, support costs
Paddy says:
I say build more of this and that, they say how do we pay.... dilema
Aqua says:
indeed
Aqua says:
may need to stop building troops
Paddy says:
hmmmm
Paddy says:
most sad that
Paddy says:
would like more for the Horde
Paddy says:
never can have enough really
Aqua says:
but you need an economy too
Paddy says:
so they keep telling me
Paddy says:
madness I say
Paddy says:
strip the lands of build more units
Aqua says:
hmmm
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PLATO

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Of the occupied South
Dec 2002 time: 23:22
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chat with Moonbars.
Plato Says:
hello
Moonbars Says:
hi Plato
Plato Says:
How are you?
Moonbars Says:
no bad
Moonbars Says:
just back from work
Moonbars Says:
sorry about aqua's outburst this morning
Moonbars Says:
he;s getting very roudy these days
Plato Says:
not to worry about aqua. I would have done the same
Plato Says:
There is a plan
Plato Says:
I have been rather devious you see
Moonbars Says:
really?
Plato Says:
yes.
Plato Says:
We have a new expert in military matters and he supplied me with some great intel from known game facts
Plato Says:
You see, The attack you took from the bards finishes them
Plato Says:
We will take Abba next turn due to it
Moonbars Says:
i see you captured one of their cities this turn
Plato Says:
We took Rolling Stones this turn.
Plato Says:
Yes...and all because of your sacrifice
Moonbars Says:
heh. bit suprised they made their stand where they did, to be honest
Plato Says:
Well, I may have helped them decide that
Plato Says:
hehe
Moonbars Says:
oh?
Plato Says:
Yes, I had a rather elaborate plan that seemes to have worked out.
Plato Says:
Bards were to attack one of us...of that I felt sure. With the power they had in Abba, the numbers for a successful attack there were coming up a bit short. Your force was more than adequate to deal with BeachBoys. So, i opened discussions with them. I know this is a little out of line not to consult you, but I did not want you to think we double crossed you. That is NOT the case
Plato Says:
All part of a strategy to end the bards next turn
Plato Says:
We now have the power to take Abba outright
Moonbars Says:
cool
Plato Says:
I felt like you would maintain strength enough to take BeachBoys regardless as it is probably very lightly defended
Plato Says:
Hope you guys not mad.
Moonbars Says:
i doubt it. they have a fair few cats and fort spears
Moonbars Says:
(unless they moved the spears)
Plato Says:
in BB? Really?
Moonbars Says:
yup.
Plato Says:
I thought they had withdrawn everything to Abba...hmmmm
Moonbars Says:
they has spears in BB last turn#
Moonbars Says:
they could have moved them
Plato Says:
Interesting. I wonder if they plan to sail from there...hehe
Moonbars Says:
perhaps.
Moonbars Says:
you've done rather well out of this war, well played
Plato Says:
Well, our force calculations were for the entire nation. As they withdrew from every city we approaced I assumed the had done the same with BB
Moonbars Says:
they attacked us from BB mate
Moonbars Says:
we lost 5 immortals
Plato Says:
really? interesting. Then you were the target all along. Very interesting
Moonbars Says:
i think they are attempting to mirror our own straegy
Moonbars Says:
defeat one stack, then turn to the other
Moonbars Says:
waht forces do you actally have in theatre?
Plato Says:
yes, perhaps. This makes it likely they will abandon Abba then...hmmm
Moonbars Says:
that would be my guess.
Plato Says:
Not sure of exact composition but over 20 first tier units
Moonbars Says:
suprised they let u get Rolling Stones
Plato Says:
hehe...so were they. More on that later. Let's just say that diplomacy can be as effective as troops...hehe
Plato Says:
I will send you some chat logs to show how the plan developed if I can get them declassified...hehe
Moonbars Says:
ok
Plato Says:
I think Paddy had told aqua a few days ago that we had a Blood Cell Operation going against the bards. This is the result.
Plato Says:
Will you be needing military assistane with BB?
Moonbars Says:
need to wait and see save
Moonbars Says:
possibly
Plato Says:
Let me know. I feel sure we could help, but would need okay from the top for a firm committment
Moonbars Says:
k
Moonbars Says:
we'll still have cats and horses fresh, not sure what state the immortals are in
Plato Says:
I really felt like they were in Abba...hmmm. I thought your battles would be done now
Plato Says:
Looks like a few are hurting pretty bad.
Moonbars Says:
can u see the stack from your save?
Moonbars Says:
what does your new military expert make of the Euphorican's army
Plato Says:
sorry...wife just got home. I wills see if we can foward some intel. You gonna be here for a few?
Moonbars Says:
not that long, but a while yearh.
Moonbars Says:
just mail me
Moonbars Says:
will get it in morning if I not online
Plato Says:
okay. Thanks for the chat. I will be in touch
Moonbars Says:
ok
Moonbars Says:
cheers
Plato Says:
cheers
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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Aqua:
Great Khan
Call me suspicious and untrusting, but the way Euphorica and the Horde just played their turns smacks of collusion.
Up to this point, Snoopy declared they would fight to the finish and they would not allow either of us to take a single town.
Snoopy delayed playing this turn because he had to have crucial discussions with an external team to finalise strategy. At the time I thought this was strange, as with only 3 towns left he couldn't hold out any hope for assistance from Babylon or the Lost Boys, themselves both already at war.
When he finally attacks, he seems to have virtually his whole army inside Beach Boys waiting to attack our stack, and even more strangely, allows your Horseman to walk into Rolling Stones unopposed. What happened to the scorched earth policy that was previously sworn by them?
It now seems that the reason he delayed the turn was to strike a deal with the Horde.
I want an explanation from you. And I don't want any more of your indignant responses that say "how dare you question me!". The Horde have shown themselves many times in the past to be untrustworthy and have turned on their allies on 2 previous occasions.
So, it is time for some straight talking my friend!
Aqualung the Desolator
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Paddy:
Mighty Lord Desolator
Ok, Aqua, you are suspicious and untrusting. There, ya happy now?
You want what now? an explanation is it? I told you that Plato and Blood Cell members where playing with Snoopys head. Have you discussed matters with Ambassador Moonbars, as Ambassador Plato was dispatched recently to bring your Nation up to speed.
What scorched earth policy? would you have razed Nirvana if you had captured it? this town has 1 pop. anyway where did we agree to scorched earth.
Again you lack trust, so again, I must say: Aqua, you are suspicious and untrust. this lack of trust on your part is getting a little boring old chap. Remember you wanted peace with us. Adding to that your nation has been informed of these matters. Mate everybody but you knows what is going on aqua.
Paddy, Khan of the Horde
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Aqua:
The scorched earth policy relates to Euphorica's pledge to destroy their towns and not let us take them. Yet they allowed you to walk into Rolling Stones unopposed. Why?
And no, perhaps I am not up to speed. So why don't you tell me what's ging on?
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Paddy:
Mighty Lord Desolator
Aqua, we respect your territorial integrity as laid out in our Treaty, and would not jeopardize that. We suggest that you move your troops outside city radius of BB and fort. To safe guard your troops through this process we sent our Expeditionary Relief Column, the Werewindle Brigade.
There may come a time when you would wish a combined attack on Beach Boys. Once Abba falls we will stand ready to assist, until then our troops are moving in on Abba from 5 angles.
It could be that the Bards hate you more than they hate us, or they fell deeply into the holes the Blood Cell dug.
Yet, you have obtained a glorious victory over the rabble of musical insurgents in Beach Boys. We will now draw the remaining forces to Abba as we will be hitting them hard there. Once your great warriors heal, then you can move in to claim your rightful victory. Our screening force will ensure your safety as you heal, they are too tempting a target for the Bards in comparison to the strength in the forces you have remaining. Adding to that, us taking Rolling Stone should move us up their hate ladder several notches yet again.
Should the Bards be using the same military doctrine of successive decisive battles, as eloquently put forward by Moonbars, we are quite certain that Euphoricans will transfer their catapults, swordsmen and Beyonce Knowles to Abba. This will ensure that we will take the hit of the extra troops as they can see our lads moving in on Abba. It is only fair after what happened at Beach Boys, you know that to be true.
I look forward to your reply,
Paddy, Khan of the Horde
The chat with Moonbars.
Plato Says:
hello
Moonbars Says:
hi Plato
..... this chat posted above... enjoy if you have not already
Moonbars Says:
cheers
Plato Says:
cheers
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Grand Master of the Council of The Blood Oath Horde
The message Snoopy sent with the save..
Our peace treaty looks like it may work out, given we killed well over
half of the DR force ... Sadly I ran out of offensive units before I
could entirely destroy it, but it's down to nearly naught.
Hopefully I can meet with Plato tomorrow to cement said treaty,
apparently we missed each other this past night by an hour or so ...
Until then I go only on the cease-fire Paddy confirmed saturday night,
and presume anything beyond that will be negotiated forthwith. 
Last edited by Paddy the Scot on 31-08-2005 at 09:06
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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Recently Omnistar sent comms to 1889 of the Lost Boys
they inturn sent that straight to the Desolators
Aqu was on the phone to me very quickly 
here is his email - very short as he said quite a lot on the phone
my reply is more indepth as to cover a few points
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Aqua:
I'd appreciate you looking into this and explaining it.
Note: forwarded message attached.
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Paddy:
Mighty Lord Desolator
We have long known of the special relationship you share with the Lost Boys. This info was sent to the Lost Boys as a sign of our strength and we did not believe compromised you in any way. You know that the Lost Boys have rebuffed many attempts to contact them in our recent history. With them forwarding this so fast we are even more certain that your relationship is stronger than you have led me to believe of late. Interesting bit of information taht that is old chap.
We have no reason to war with the Lost Boys, even though they declareded war on us. (In much the same manner you were leading me to believe that the Lost Boys would be declaring war on desolationrow when they next get the save. If that was to take place after this incident, of them running to you so fast, then that would surely be a ploy of some sort.) It must be stated that as they do run to you so quickly, this makes us even more interested in a peace with them. We could work nicely together, we have much room for each to grow and move in, thus sorting out our differences with them is a winfor all three teams.
Our communication was both an offer of trade and friendship, as well as a show of strength and ability.
Aqua, I heard your words on the phone, and after a very long and involved chat with all involved, we find no where in the comms with the Lost Boys that asks for a alliance against Desolation Row. This is the explanation you have asked for. To read anymore into it would be to insert items that are not there. We do find that they are now obviously deeply affiliated with you.
As to the ability to chart trends, make assumptions, gather intel, and present the information that as you have seen, I must say that I am inpressed with the group that gathered the various details and applied themselves, taking the time and effort to put it all together.
So to I am happy that they did so well and rattled your cages. You should be happy to, for as our allie, you have the ability to request such documents and reports from time to time on various subjects, as you have the ability to utilize many of our departments skills and trades.
I hope that this puts this matter to rest,
Paddy, Khan of the Horde
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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chat with aqua
Paddy says:
no comments in the save thread?
Aqua says:
nah, tired of comments
Aqua says:
just want to play
Aqua says:
is there a discussion?
Aqua says:
haven't been watching
Paddy says:
well tell your team mate to shove off
Paddy says:
moon has slowed it down
Paddy says:
what decision
Aqua says:
no, you tell him
Aqua says:
I could say the same about your scaffolding mate
Paddy says:
decisions were made when we started
Paddy says:
scaffolding>?
Aqua says:
builder
Paddy says:
we play the save very quickly
Aqua says:
chrisius
Paddy says:
when do I hold the save?
Aqua says:
wasn't talking about the save, just about the talk
Paddy says:
I am
Paddy says:
moon held it
Paddy says:
and encouraged 1889
Paddy says:
sux
Aqua says:
yes, I know
Aqua says:
I have no argument on that one
Aqua says:
that's his crusade, not mine
Paddy says:
I have told both - you his team captain
Paddy says:
so he speaks for you then - ok
Aqua says:
lighten up mate, it's all over now, save is sent
Aqua says:
1889 will send it soon too I'm sure
Aqua says:
game on as far as I'm concerned
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
1889 well over 24 hours
Aqua says:
is he?
Paddy says:
we into the weekend and looking like it will be with no save
Aqua says:
well that's the first time
Aqua says:
he's usually about 20 minutes
Paddy says:
moon posted something on him holding 3 days
Aqua says:
yeh, but I hope he doesn't
Paddy says:
part of their campaign
Paddy says:
they want admins to agree that if you go over 24 hours you are retired, before the save gets to Bards
Paddy says:
sux.
Aqua says:
nah, don't think that will happen
Aqua says:
moons is just making a point
Paddy says:
point? what point, that he is a ****
Paddy says:
just sux
Aqua says:
ok, osunds like you've got a skinful so I'll say goodnight
Paddy says:
1889 is now doing it
Paddy says:
not one drop
Paddy says:
so judge not on that
Aqua says:
well what's wrong with you then? go have a drink!
Paddy says:
I thought we were getting on with the game, then this
Paddy says:
no, happy
Paddy says:
sad this game shitty
Aqua says:
yep
Paddy says:
thus why I ask you as Moons team captain to step up
Paddy says:
you ask me to look to my team...
Aqua says:
interesting chat you had with Snoopy
Paddy says:
tonight
Paddy says:
yeah was good
Aqua says:
no, couple of weeks ago
Paddy says:
did he send you a copy of that as well as the other
Aqua says:
yeh
Paddy says:
and you skip moon - no answer there
Aqua says:
pretty convincing stuff, about how you want to team with them to take us out
Paddy says:
worked
Aqua says:
tough game this, just don't know who to trust do we?
Paddy says:
hahaha
Aqua says:
yeah right
Paddy says:
and hold the turn longer so you never have to know
Paddy says:
you got peace
Paddy says:
and you getting half of bard lands
Paddy says:
cost you 5 units
Paddy says:
and moon holds the save
Paddy says:
seems you both got this all sorted
Aqua says:
hmmm, some pretty detailed stuff with snoopy there, planning our demise
Aqua says:
naming me personally too, I see
Aqua says:
"have to deal with Aqua"
Paddy says:
do not have a copy, please send so I can enjoy the laugh
Aqua says:
nah, you know what you said mate
Paddy says:
best hold it 24 hours to meet your new team policy though
Paddy says:
did I
Paddy says:
how do you know if you not really there
Paddy says:
or you trust snoop to tell you all I suppose
Aqua says:
pretty hard for snoopy to make it up
Aqua says:
it's all there
Paddy says:
hahaha
Aqua says:
huge chat log
Paddy says:
good to see
Paddy says:
everyone runs to Aqua when the Horde rides
Aqua says:
"we ahve a horde ready to crush them at this time"
Aqua says:
that's what you said about us to him
Paddy says:
so you still not answer on Moon
Paddy says:
and you knew games were afoot with snoop the wonder boy
Aqua says:
no I didn't, not until you told me
Paddy says:
you so innocent are ya? good, go collect the stones to throw then
Paddy says:
and remember who asked for peace
Paddy says:
remember?
Paddy says:
have we attacked you?
Paddy says:
remember your peace?
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
it suited us both
Paddy says:
or you on the high moral ground
Paddy says:
so have I attacked you?
Paddy says:
and still no answer on Moon
Aqua says:
indeed, and you on the "attacking walled fortified citie son hills" ground
Paddy says:
you p[ush and shove anout the Horde, and you cannot answer my question on mooin
Aqua says:
what is the question?
Paddy says:
you wanted the peace
Aqua says:
he held the save 24 hours?
Aqua says:
ok, he's sent it now
Paddy says:
and pushes others to do the same
Aqua says:
I wasn't around to play it, so I asked him too
Aqua says:
it's not going to happen all the time
Aqua says:
ah, "Aqua is a snake"
Aqua says:
thanks mate
Paddy says:
you needed a good name,
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
I have told both - you his team captain
Paddy says:
so he speaks for you then - ok
Aqua says:
right
Aqua says:
no, he doesn't speak for me
Aqua says:
but he is entitled to represent us
Aqua says:
I am not a despot, I allow my ministers to express their views and have their way
Paddy says:
good to hear
Aqua says:
"boastful of how good they are while begging"
Aqua says:
mate, you really should be careful of what you say in chat
Paddy says:
you here to throw stones are ya
Aqua says:
I wouldn't throw stones if you didn't keep putting them in my hands!
Paddy says:
is that right?
Aqua says:
ah forget it
Paddy says:
forget what
Aqua says:
I have no idea what's going on in this game
Paddy says:
well glad snoopy loves ya enough to send you all, would love a copy some time
Aqua says:
I'm sure you have it
Paddy says:
which one is it?
Paddy says:
did he send you the one from last night as well?
Aqua says:
no
Aqua says:
15th august
Aqua says:
where you agreed not to move into rolling stones
Paddy says:
oh that is so ancient
Paddy says:
what of tonights
Aqua says:
yes, but I never knew about it
Aqua says:
and you're our ally?
Paddy says:
that was a good one
Paddy says:
back soon Bec just came in
Aqua says:
so you telling me those conversations with Snoop were complete bullshit?
Aqua says:
Aqua says:
can't trust anybody anymore, even your allies
Aqua says:
goodnight
Paddy says:
you leaving
Paddy says:
send the chats so I too can have a laugh
The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
you leaving
The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
send the chats so I too can have a laugh
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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Chat with Aqua just now
Aqua says:
how's your weekend?
Paddy says:
hi there
Paddy says:
good thanks
Paddy says:
rained all day today
Aqua says:
cool
Aqua says:
nice day here
Paddy says:
hahaha
Aqua says:
so do we still have an alliance old chap?
Paddy says:
we sure so
Aqua says:
cool
Aqua says:
I guess then you will finish off Snoop in the next couple of turns
Paddy says:
4 -5 turns now
Aqua says:
though I suspect there are those in your ranks that would dearly like to attack us
Paddy says:
he razed abba and is hiding in the hills
Aqua says:
oh did he?
Paddy says:
yes there are
Paddy says:
snoopy sure did
Paddy says:
could use your cats now
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
yeh, but cats can't capture
Aqua says:
he will Ctrl-Q once you get within striking distance
Paddy says:
maybe
Aqua says:
their attack on us served one purpose- got rid of most of their army I guess
Paddy says:
should have 20 units in their
Paddy says:
they had 23 - 27 units
Aqua says:
oh you think?
Aqua says:
it will be a pitched battle at Beach Boys then
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
I am sure you have more than enough troops for the job
Paddy says:
we hope so
Paddy says:
no cats though
Aqua says:
pity our stack was almost destroyed - we may have had a chance of taking beach boys with the cats
Paddy says:
yes indeed
Paddy says:
brb
Paddy says:
back
Aqua says:
k
Paddy says:
we have an issue
Aqua says:
so what's the plan after bards are dead?
Aqua says:
oh, what?
Paddy says:
Omni and LN have had a chat .
Aqua says:
LN?
Aqua says:
oh, LB right?
Paddy says:
Omni thouight he was to allowed to go talk to anyone
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
after what, 12 days now?
Paddy says:
yes - Lord Nuclear of Lost Boys
Aqua says:
he's making an impact!
Paddy says:
he is pissing me off
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
so what's the issue now?
Paddy says:
same - Omni trying to be impressionable
Aqua says:
oh, ok
Aqua says:
thought you meant you and I have an issue
Paddy says:
no
Aqua says:
hey, did you kill me in Snow and Ice?
Paddy says:
no
Paddy says:
why?
Aqua says:
somebody did
Aqua says:
must have been Modo
Paddy says:
opps
Aqua says:
lol
Paddy says:
so you any plans for your stack
Aqua says:
about time too
Aqua says:
in EOD?
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
you were going to move them last turn
Aqua says:
well they have moved outside Eu borders to at least heal
Aqua says:
we did
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
as to the Horde armies, we have some issues
Paddy says:
AM forces gathering
and what to do with babylon
Aqua says:
conflicts between your generals?
Paddy says:
then there are the vampoires
Paddy says:
between our foes
Paddy says:
what do you suggest
Aqua says:
I thought AM was fighting Babs
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
well I would have thought you'd want to get most of your army over to the western theatre to both defend your core and deal with any threats over there
Aqua says:
and be in position to strike your next target
Paddy says:
such as?
Aqua says:
such as what? what threats?
Aqua says:
or target? I thought it was gonna be the Babs, or LB perhaps
Aqua says:
though LB is a bit far for you to bother
Paddy says:
hmmm.
Paddy says:
and together
Paddy says:
from different angles
Aqua says:
sorry, not following you.....
Paddy says:
say LB
Paddy says:
you come from the east
we from the north
Aqua says:
yes, well LB is our obvious target
Aqua says:
our troops need to heal, and we need more too after Bards killed 5 immortals
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
you thinking of switching Govts soon?
Aqua says:
this will be the achilles heel for both of us
Aqua says:
soon we'll be the only teams in despotism
Paddy says:
is a conversation that has been taking place for a long time
Aqua says:
yes, same with us
Aqua says:
we can't switch until our GA is over unfortunately
Aqua says:
so what timetable do you have in mind to attack LB?
Aqua says:
if that is your goal, that is.....as I said, thought you wanted to cleanse the land of Beta
Paddy says:
beta..... hehehe
Paddy says:
no time frame yet - bards still there
Aqua says:
indeed
Aqua says:
though looking at the map, AM are closer to you than anyone else
Aqua says:
are you thinking of attacking them instead?
Paddy says:
we have to move a lot of troops to watch that border
Aqua says:
AM border?
Aqua says:
yes, I would imagine you would be concerned about them
Aqua says:
not sure what they are planning, and whether they intend to keep attacking Babs
Aqua says:
looks like they attacked them again this turn just gone
Paddy says:
yes many strange things going on their
Paddy says:
Horse army??? why not MI Army?
Aqua says:
very strange
Aqua says:
indeed
Aqua says:
perhaps they have had it a long time
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
or may have a mi army
Aqua says:
but I don't recall anything in the Battle Reports about an MGL
Paddy says:
why would they report that
Aqua says:
it's a result of battle, you must!
Paddy says:
hmmmm
Paddy says:
well that may need to be posted, or drop them an email
Aqua says:
postig it now
Paddy says:
nice
Aqua says:
hey, quick chat on troop movements matey
Paddy says:
ok
Aqua says:
been discussing the turn with Moons - just saw it for the first time
Aqua says:
your stack, can you please move them 9 and not 6, otherwise they will block our road back to our lands
Paddy says:
looking at that now3
Aqua says:
ok
Paddy says:
are you sending your troops home, or bringing in the rest of your original stack?
Aqua says:
Our troops need to heal, so they will go home for the time being
Aqua says:
remember our last conversation - you said you were closing in form 5 angles and that you recognise that we've bled for you, so you will be happy to finish off the bards
Paddy says:
yes, but you now looking to take to the roads, when I marching in on them
Paddy says:
thus my question.
Aqua says:
no, there is only one tile that would block us, and you can use another tile just as easily and still get to BB in 3 turns
Paddy says:
you would block the road - yes or no?
Aqua says:
no
Aqua says:
just need to move along it is all
Paddy says:
so we will use it then. your lads are healing
Aqua says:
as I said, you don't need it
Aqua says:
our lads will move home to heal
Paddy says:
you say so. yet you moving away.
Aqua says:
moving home to heal....for the third time
Paddy says:
You are not on a road tile this turn.
Paddy says:
so you need to move on road next turn
Aqua says:
exactly
Paddy says:
so why do you need the road this turn?
Aqua says:
actually yes you're right....we need it the turn after
Aqua says:
so as long as your stack moves on, it's ok
Aqua says:
will they?
Aqua says:
still, I would have thought you wouldn't mind moving 9 instead of 6....what's the big deal?
Paddy says:
either way, your lads are "leaving the theatre", while my lads are manoeurving inward.
Paddy says:
operational maourvability is the goal
Paddy says:
and I not sacrifice that for units leaving
Aqua says:
here we go again, talking in riddles. There is no difference in your "operational goals" if you move 6 or 9. I asked you to move 9, adn you want to argue about it without giving a single decent reason for it
Aqua says:
mate, why do you guys have to be so obstinate instead of friendly?
Paddy says:
yes, 6 has roads, 9 does not
Aqua says:
remember, last time we moved where you wanted us too, the Bards attacked us.....and by the way, that was after Plato engineered it!
Aqua says:
9 does have roads, uinless we're talking about a different stack
Aqua says:
or are you looking at one turn beyond me?
Paddy says:
sorry ou right
Aqua says:
cool
Aqua says:
Paddy says:
I have 2 maps here
Aqua says:
actually, now Abba is gone, ytour boys can get to BB faster
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
but trying to be clever, not rash
Aqua says:
indeed
Aqua says:
the Horde has been very clever to date
Paddy says:
step by step
Aqua says:
you must have many many Horses and AC coming down from the North
Aqua says:
and again they will be faster with Abba gone
Aqua says:
I wonder if the Bards have built a boat
Paddy says:
hahaha
Aqua says:
off to bed matey
Paddy says:
be well mate
Aqua says:
have a good morning
Paddy says:
need sleep myself
Paddy says:
txc
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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chat with aqua. this is raw - no editing as yet 
Aqua says:
Hi Great Khan
Aqua says:
how goes the turn that you hold?
Aqua says:
oops
Aqua says:
I mean, how goes the turn you have played?
Paddy says:
huh?
Aqua says:
EOD
Paddy says:
ahhh
Aqua says:
does the Horde White Blood Cell continue to advance?
Paddy says:
long gone
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
on Beach Boys?
Paddy says:
onward
Paddy says:
where else
Paddy says:
the last hoorah of the bards
Aqua says:
indeed
Paddy says:
will take us a while - but will be done
Aqua says:
their friends the Babs are nowhere to be seen
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
meanwhile AM contine to pummel the Babs
Paddy says:
they had a warrior there - and attack ewd us with it
Aqua says:
who, babs?
Paddy says:
yeah
Aqua says:
a warrior?.
Aqua says:
in EU territory?.
Paddy says:
a turn ago
Paddy says:
or two
Aqua says:
a warrior?
Aqua says:
lolololololololololololol
Aqua says:
(maniacal laugh)
Paddy says:
they are funny
Aqua says:
very
Paddy says:
well I expect LB have more than warriors now
Aqua says:
mate, they've been in anarchy for what, 4 turns?
Aqua says:
they ain't building anything!
Paddy says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
indeed
Aqua says:
and they are still weak to us
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
would hope they are
Aqua says:
are you guys making your peace with the Babs
Paddy says:
huh?
Aqua says:
for the babs seem to be mortal enemies of AM
Paddy says:
hmmm
Aqua says:
well you can't be the enemy of everyone, surely
Paddy says:
babs not my friends hahaha
Paddy says:
you my friend
Aqua says:
babs are treacherous, it is true
Aqua says:
and AM....they are your neighbours
Aqua says:
Iwould watch them if I was you
Aqua says:
Krill is clever, Krill is talented, Krill is devious
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
many troops of ours now on border patrol
Aqua says:
that is wise
Aqua says:
for they will strike quickly with their cheap WC's when they can
Paddy says:
not into me
Aqua says:
and with their GA, their production must be good
Paddy says:
I bet
Aqua says:
I think they will finish the babs first though
Aqua says:
doing your job for you
Paddy says:
we have some amazing stats and numbers
Aqua says:
do you have some deal with them?
Aqua says:
oh, on whom?
Paddy says:
numbers on AM
Aqua says:
ah right
Aqua says:
what do their numbers look like?
Paddy says:
very plain, 1's 2's even some 9's
Aqua says:
huh? 9's?
Aqua says:
oh
Aqua says:
lol
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
so plato will be trying to chat with moon on lux trades
Paddy says:
can you and I cut through the red tape a bit
Aqua says:
oh wil he?
Aqua says:
that's good
Aqua says:
do you have excess lux's?
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
hafven't really thought about it
Paddy says:
oh ok then
Aqua says:
we don't at the moment, but have the potential for an extra Gems if we connect it up
Paddy says:
well there are a few tiles that need roads before we can trade
Paddy says:
wondering if you interested in trade?
Paddy says:
if so we can do one of the tiles if you would like to do the other
Aqua says:
always willing to trade, as it helps happiness
Paddy says:
are am very strong to you?
Aqua says:
ah, you seek intelligence my friend?
Paddy says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
you were telling me before
Aqua says:
it must be difficult for your mathematicians.....with everyone weak to you, they will be able to discern very little useful information
Paddy says:
right you are
Aqua says:
hehe
Aqua says:
so what's it worth, friend?
Paddy says:
so are you interested in roading a tile
Paddy says:
worth -0 chat on AM - not much
Aqua says:
yes, though we are still in the process of rebuilding our worker force after you forced us to add workers to our cities for defensive purposes!
Aqua says:
0 chat on AM?
Paddy says:
ahhh fancy that
Paddy says:
typo
Aqua says:
yes, indeed
Paddy says:
well you just roaded a tile there, so your worker is not far away
Aqua says:
you chatting with AM?
Paddy says:
not at this hour
Aqua says:
don't we already have a road link now?
Paddy says:
no
Paddy says:
2 tiles missing
Aqua says:
oh ok
Paddy says:
so if we do one, can you do the other
Aqua says:
our workers are very speedy you know
Paddy says:
drug addicts?
Paddy says:
tut tut
Paddy says:
ours as just hard drinkers
Aqua says:
I shall put the proposition to my inner council, after seeking approval from the Senate of Elders to consult with the vice President
Paddy says:
oh you need to go ask Masuro
Aqua says:
ok, done.....the answer is yes
Paddy says:
maybe you should resign, let him bne turn player
Aqua says:
no, I need to ask my own anus
Paddy says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Aqua says:
yeh, his name is moonbars
Aqua says:
oops
Paddy says:
tooo much information
Paddy says:
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Aqua says:
Ididn't say that
Paddy says:
hashahaha
Paddy says:
ya killing me
Aqua says:
not really, moons and I get along very well as long as we don't talk about Iron Civer
Aqua says:
lol
Paddy says:
hehehe
Aqua says:
in fact, we are a fearsome combination in this game
Aqua says:
funny, I thought my biggest assets would be Sabre and Trip
Paddy says:
yes - you scare me
Aqua says:
they have been less than useless
Aqua says:
Moons has been great
Paddy says:
that is most sad
Aqua says:
and Masuro wants to be Japan.....do your own thing and pretend the outside world doesn't exist
Aqua says:
comes from living in Korea I guess
Paddy says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
a canadian in south korea
Paddy says:
would be a funny movie
Aqua says:
how many workers do you have?
Paddy says:
not sure who to play him though....
Paddy says:
for the tile - 1 or 2
Aqua says:
total
Paddy says:
a few more than that for sure
Paddy says:
1 or 2 for each City
Aqua says:
more than us
Paddy says:
ahhh
Aqua says:
just checking my save
Aqua says:
which tile do you propose to road?
Paddy says:
will check
Aqua says:
6 of Brutallica is my suggestion
Aqua says:
it will take me 4 turns to get a worker there though
Paddy says:
was thinking for you to tile where U2 was.
Aqua says:
that will take 5 turns to get one there, then 2 for the road
Paddy says:
you had a worker near sidon not long ago
Paddy says:
yeah last turn
Paddy says:
remember
Aqua says:
oh, forgot about him sorry
Aqua says:
moved him south last turn
Paddy says:
you just built a road
Aqua says:
so if move him back......
Paddy says:
really
Aqua says:
he can be there in ......
Aqua says:
2 turns
Aqua says:
then 2 turns to build the road
Aqua says:
how's that?
Paddy says:
nice
Aqua says:
but still think 6 of brutallica is better
Aqua says:
our guy can go to 62 of brutallica in 2 turns too
Paddy says:
I prefer this way
Aqua says:
62 or 63, same difference
Aqua says:
why?
Paddy says:
Aqua says:
62 or 63, same difference
what do you mean? these are not the ruins of U2
Aqua says:
you already have a road9 or 6 of the iron?
Aqua says:
cos we already have a road outside the borders of Sidon, remember?
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
but we do not
Aqua says:
that was our original launch pad for the planned EU invasion befofre you got int he way
Aqua says:
lol
Paddy says:
like I want that rebuilt...
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
why not?
Aqua says:
so where will your worker go?
Paddy says:
why?
Aqua says:
more useful to us frankly
Aqua says:
north ain't much use to us
Paddy says:
Brutallica 9 8
Paddy says:
north great for me
Paddy says:
nice and peaceful
Aqua says:
to connect Rolling Stones?
Paddy says:
you are very inquisitive
Aqua says:
that makes a change
Paddy says:
that be where he going to road
Aqua says:
normally you are
Paddy says:
Aqua says:
another wicket!!!!
Aqua says:
6 for!
Paddy says:
awesome
Paddy says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
poor old Poms
Aqua says:
Collingwood is out....anyone with that name doesn't deserve to get runs
Paddy says:
hahaha
Aqua says:
anyway, the bottleneck will be connecting our second Gems
Aqua says:
that will take.....
Aqua says:
hmmmm.....maybe extra turns
Aqua says:
5
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
all is good
Aqua says:
you have a worker there already?
Paddy says:
next turn or 1 after
Paddy says:
so all is good then
Aqua says:
ok
Aqua says:
agreed, we will send a worker to help connect us
Paddy says:
excellent
Paddy says:
poor old Plato and Moon - all this diplomacy they could be having
Aqua says:
my Senate is willing, as is my inner council and house of Lords
Aqua says:
lol
Aqua says:
hehe
Aqua says:
P
Paddy says:
hehehe
Aqua says:
Plato is too busy getting his foot in his mouth to be able to speak plain words
Paddy says:
Be nice now
Paddy says:
Pick on your own people
Aqua says:
Moons doesn't trust him which makes things difficult
Paddy says:
Ouch - I bet
Aqua says:
and the recent treachery over rolling Stones and Beach Boys didn't help
Paddy says:
well I think you may be happier in 10 minutes
Aqua says:
oh, what is happening in 10 minutes?
Aqua says:
you've ordered a girl for me on your credit car?
Aqua says:
card?
Aqua says:
didn't know you have my address
Paddy says:
You will have thought through the next statements
Aqua says:
aaaaahhhhh
Aqua says:
then please go on, great khan
Paddy says:
We will try our guts hardest to take Beach Boys
Paddy says:
I will not raze the city for slaves
Paddy says:
although I so so want bard slaves
Aqua says:
that will be a great sign of loyalty
Aqua says:
slaves?
Aqua says:
workers?
Paddy says:
and it be in your lands as I would understand border agreement
Aqua says:
that it would be
Paddy says:
so I will then hand it over to you
Aqua says:
we have bled for Beach Boys already, and whittled their defenders substantially for you
Paddy says:
yes
Aqua says:
6 nasty Swords they lost in the struggle
Aqua says:
not to be overlooked
Paddy says:
yes indeed
Paddy says:
not by me
Aqua says:
indeed
Paddy says:
back in 5 mins
Aqua says:
as Khan you are clearly wiser than some of your warmongering generals, who see life in only one or two dimensions
Paddy says:
hello again
Paddy says:
yes I would like many bard slaves (workers)
Aqua says:
not sure they havge any left
Aqua says:
why would they?
Aqua says:
I'd add them to cities and get production for units
Paddy says:
they have 2 workers on a mountain at BB 7 now
Aqua says:
well that's dumb
Aqua says:
lol
Paddy says:
not my team
Aqua says:
you must have cavalry who can take them out immediately
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
but not sacrificing them
Aqua says:
no, I meant to for the Workers
Aqua says:
if they are on a mountain, your Cavalry will be fairly safe from reprisals
Paddy says:
they have 2 spears and an archer there
Aqua says:
oh
Paddy says:
why bother for 2 scummy slaves
Aqua says:
didn't know that
Aqua says:
but that's less units inside beach boys
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
would have liked to have put all my infantry on that mountain
Paddy says:
so will probably march for it
Aqua says:
yes, taht would be good
Paddy says:
take the mountain and then attack down on BB
Paddy says:
screw them
Aqua says:
a few sacrificed MI should easily take it
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
have many
Aqua says:
I am sure
Paddy says:
way way too many some times
Aqua says:
indeed, for economic purposes
Aqua says:
unless you want to invade everyone at once
Paddy says:
for typing rep[ort purposes
Aqua says:
Let me say, if you capture Beach Boys and gift it to us, you will go a long way towards dispelling the feelings of mistrust of some in our ranks
Paddy says:
good
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Paddy the Scot

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Hordeland
Mar 2001 time: 14:22
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An upset Moonbars...
Paddy says:
hello
James says:
hi
James says:
whats up?
Paddy says:
EOD
James says:
isnt it always
James says:
lol
Paddy says:
how did you go with the worker for the road?
James says:
he's at sidon just now. Aqua had an auto-move on moonbars, he was already moved when I opened the previous save
Paddy says:
ok
James says:
so I moved another worker who has just finished mining near Antioch north into sidon
Paddy says:
thank you
James says:
has cost us a turn
James says:
well actually 2 I suppose given Moonbar's original location
Paddy says:
what is location of military units that were Sidon 9 on road?
Paddy says:
are they still in one stack?
James says:
healing in sidon
Paddy says:
ok. I request they remain Sidon at this time, as discussed with Aqua they may be reuired for Beach Boys yet.
James says:
Once healed I may move them to Antioch, in case the LBs declare war on us again..
Paddy says:
You understand that I have operational control of them - right?
James says:
no, I was not aware of that
Paddy says:
you and I discussed this matter previously.
James says:
what garantees do I have that you will not do the same thing you did last time?
Paddy says:
what are you saying here?
James says:
I believe Aqua forwarded you the snoop chat log
Paddy says:
so?
Paddy says:
if you are breaking the alliance - say so now.
James says:
In any event, the stack will be healing in Sidon for 2 turns, and Aqua will be back by then
Paddy says:
until then we have an alliance and an agreement
James says:
Paddy, please understand - you manipulated snoopy into attacking a stack your movement instructions had placed in danger.
Paddy says:
Really
James says:
Aqua views this as clever gamesmenship on your part
Paddy says:
are you here to caste stones?
James says:
no, I am here because you MSNd me
Paddy says:
haha
Paddy says:
are you an allie to the Horde?
James says:
understand that I will honour and follow Aqua's lead in this game.
Paddy says:
so what is the bullshit about Snoopy then?
James says:
bullshit - are you saying snoopy made it up?
Paddy says:
I am saying it is irrelevant
James says:
in game terms, yes, as Aqua accepts it as fair play
Paddy says:
and has nothing to do with your requirements under the agrement
James says:
And as I have said, the stack will remain in Sidon to heal for the next 2 ticks, by which time Aqua will be back
Paddy says:
Only having this as:
James says:
what garantees do I have that you will not do the same thing you did last time?
Paddy says:
what are you saying here?
James says:
I believe Aqua forwarded you the snoop chat log
Paddy says:
I came here for 3 things
Paddy says:
1. workers for trade road
2. location of stack
3. orders for said stack
James says:
Worker in sidon, Stack in sidon
James says:
what are your orders
Paddy says:
to wait Sidon at this time
James says:
fine
Paddy says:
as stated clearly above
James says:
anything further?
Paddy says:
I think you need to have a long look at whether you want to be in this alliance. My understanding is you are all over the various teams doing all you can to build the alliance against the Horde, then you get upset about Snoop chat logs
Paddy says:
Do you think the Horde has no one talking to it?
Paddy says:
Your name is mentioned many times
Paddy says:
I care less of that, yet you brought your feelings on Snoop up
James says:
I am loyal to my leader, and he thinks he can trust you. As to what the others say about me, I have no idea. I spoke to LN, he has a veriety of schemes and plans that change on a daily basis for destroying you, as he says you once sent him a death threat. But I don't listen to his words about you, as I try not to pay heed to the ramblings of 13 year olds - and besides, my own experiences and dealings with you makes his claim unlikely in the extreme
Paddy says:
YOu may wish to talk to your Babylon friends as well
James says:
I havnt spoken to anybody in Bab or E for a ling time, the only other person i've spoken to was Krill, and we discussed who the hordes next target would be, he is of the opinion it would be us
Paddy says:
Babylon talk of you often
James says:
so I dont know what you've been hearing from the others
Paddy says:
I care not
James says:
good for them - they never talk to me
Paddy says:
All teams doing all they can if they can
James says:
surely you realise that if Babylon could get you to attack us next, by spreading rumours, that would serve their desperate cause well..
Paddy says:
babylon have issues
Paddy says:
their lies and truths certainly do not come together very often
Paddy says:
The day I producing less than 1 to 3 units at home while keeping a strong force in the field, well when that stops I believe the Horde will have problems.
Paddy says:
Until attacked or abused then I stand by the allaince I have signed
Paddy says:
Not happy to take abuse
James says:
and one point of order - my discussions with krill and LN happened AFTER your actions with snoopy - as a result of them, so to claim that I was not justified in having these discussions is false
James says:
No, abuse sucks - I hope you dont think I have been abusing you?
Paddy says:
have I made claims regarding justificarion etc here against you?
James says:
My understanding is you are all over the various teams doing all you can to build the alliance against the Horde, then you get upset about Snoop chat logs
James says:
the snoopy incident is WHY I was talking to the other teams
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
Do you think the Horde has no one talking to it?
Paddy says:
Your name is mentioned many times
Paddy says:
I care less of that, yet you brought your feelings on Snoop up
Paddy says:
so what
Paddy says:
I care less
James says:
paddy, I dont care at all
James says:
the sooner this game is over, the better.
Paddy says:
what do you mean?
James says:
I am only playing becuase Aqua would otherwise be on his own
James says:
I would have left a long time ago otherwise
Paddy says:
why stick around?
James says:
loyalty to aqua
Paddy says:
ok
James says:
the game would otherwise be stuck right now for a start
James says:
I really hope when this game is over, the participants are all still speaking to each other
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
well thanks for the chat - my taxi is almost here
time for work again
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PLATO

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Of the occupied South
Dec 2002 time: 23:22
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Looks like Moonbars is really out.
Plato says:
hello
Moonbars says:
Hi
Plato says:
I have good news from The Khan.
Plato says:
It appears that we have worked out how to get the road through to you without the need of your worker. I am told that the road will be connected in 3 turns.
Moonbars says:
ah, you'd need to Email aqua - I have resigned..
Plato says:
You really are resigning? I thought with the PM you had sent me that you would stay around.
Moonbars says:
No, I simply played DRs turn becuase I was around when it came in and I knew Aqua was still on vacation
Plato says:
That is a real shame moonbars. You will be missed.
Moonbars says:
cheers, I appreciate you saying that. I've just had enough of people flying off the handle at innocent things, and I must say playing alongside some people playing in this game has been unpalletable.
Moonbars says:
I'll be back for C4DG
Plato says:
Well, I understand your frustration, having experienced several personal attacks myself...but it is just a game...and the sweetest revenge is winning.
Plato says:
I respect your decision though and wish you nothing but the best
Moonbars says:
i don't feel personally attacked, unless you count the crassness of Chrisius Maximus, it's more the whole nature of this DG. I have better things I could be doing with my time
Plato says:
haha...Chris is really a great guy...and a fierce competitor. This game was set up to be a bloody struggle and I think some where not fully aware of that going into it.. Nonetheless, if it isn't fun, then there is no reason to play.
Moonbars says:
yup!
Plato says:
Would you be interested in maybe getting a PBEM going together?
Moonbars says:
well with Civ4 a month away, I'd rather wait than start a c3c one
Moonbars says:
but getting swords moving would be good..
Plato says:
yes indeed. Hopefully McMeadows will return from his holiday soon.
Moonbars says:
oh is that where we are at?
Moonbars says:
didnt know he was away
Plato says:
Yes, I think he is vacationing in Spain
Moonbars says:
cool
Plato says:
Hopefully back this week
Plato says:
Well, I look forward to seeing you in Civ4
Plato says:
Just one question about EoD if you would...a parting gift? hehe. Is there an alliance between you guys and LB?
Moonbars says:
would you believe me, whatever why I answered?
Moonbars says:
or *could* you believe me?
Plato says:
hehe...I would like to believe I can trust you.
Plato says:
You have always seemed to deal fairly with me
Moonbars says:
Aqua seems to trust Paddy, so DR has not looked for any other allies.
Plato says:
Cool. Thank You.
Moonbars says:
welcome
Moonbars says:
Is the horde allied with the LBs?
Plato says:
Haha...no. LB was begging for it though. Wanting us to attack you together. (LN that is).
Moonbars says:
that guy has a new scheme every hour
Plato says:
indeed. I think he was fishing with everybody. I would imagine DR got the same offer wrt us.
Moonbars says:
i dont think he has a clue actually.
Moonbars says:
one minute he's going to ally with AM and attack babylon, the next thing I hear is that he's all set on Horde destruction, then he actually talked about attacking Euphorica
Moonbars says:
changes with the weather mate
Plato says:
haha...not much left to attack in Bardland. hehe. He is just looking to get in the action. Doesn't seem to have a plan other than just making plans...haha
Moonbars says:
yup
Moonbars says:
talking shop
Plato says:
indeed. Will be interesting to see how he plays it out.
Moonbars says:
i think DR and Horde should go get him
Moonbars says:
but you'd need to talk to aqua, lol - I've retired
Plato says:
haha...for what it's worth...I agree.
Plato says:
Well...Take care of yourself. Thank you for being a good Ambassador to the Horde. I will miss you moonbars. Drop by the public forums from time to time and say "Hello".
Moonbars says:
thanks mate
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