28-06-2005 19:24									#271
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quote: Originally posted by Ellestar Jamski, Geomancers are losing to Air Spike team and to a ranger team most of the time (that is if both parties play right). So, it loses to two most popular builds and it's hard to coordinate attacks, especially to PUGs. I doubt that anyone will use it on a constant basis. Ranger spirit spam team is THE FotM at that moment. Very easy to play so every noob can use it and it's strong.

Actually the only way Ranger spam is winning is because the opponents get bored and quit

	28-06-2005 23:04									#272
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Translation: Jam can't beat that either.

	28-06-2005 23:47									#273
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Ha! Just beat ranger spam with an experimental fire-ele team AoE spells on PCs blew up the spirits too. I think they weren't a great tem though.

	29-06-2005 04:14									#274
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Actually the only way Ranger spam is winning is because the opponents get bored and quit

Actually, good ones can kill most teams without any problems. 99% of the rangers builds are horrible so most of spirit spam teams aren't good. After all, most rangers don't think that expertise is the best ranger attribute and the best primary attribute in the game... Also, Ranger/Warrior mix is stronger than pure Ranger in most cases.

Someone staying in AoE in PvP is just pathetic. Also, good teams spread at least some spirits and hide them behind obstacles so it's hard to kill all of them or even all spirits of the same type, especially if there is a Fertile Season spirit(s) that give bonus HP and armor to all players and all spirits. But stacking spirits in one place also works against a team without AoEs if there are a lot of spirits - that way it becomes impossible to select some of the spirits by clicking on a spirit name on a screen and finding spirits by pressing a 'tab' key takes too much time.

	29-06-2005 06:12									#275
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Ellestar, they rushed the altar at start and placed spirits up there... it was a "target rich environment" shall we say

-Jam

	29-06-2005 10:26									#276
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I ahve been stuck at Beacon's Perch for along while...

if anyone could help a poly member out I would appreciate it

my name is Tarna Lithith (if you need it again)

every group I get in in that location commits suicide or disbands before getting to the next town...

(commits suicide I mean goes somewhere that is much too tough for them (areas where I die in one hit))

Jon Miller
(US server)

	29-06-2005 11:02									#277
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I would, but i'm out until July 5

But if you're still stuck there then ...

	29-06-2005 12:05									#278
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Can make that with henchies if you've levelled a bit - just watch the ettins as they can get mean.

	29-06-2005 12:07									#279
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I like moving on with the game..

and don't like teaming with groups that suck..

so I don't know.. maybe I won't play as much for a while

JM

	29-06-2005 17:37									#280
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Jon, it sounds like you're teaming with people who are going through Lornar's Pass (level 24 monsters). You need the other exit to Beacons, to Deldrimor Bowl (level 14 monsters).

	29-06-2005 22:46									#281
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if you are. Take the quest To Kryta, and it will take you, well, to Kryta.

	30-06-2005 14:10									#282
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http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html
Added new quests "Caravan In Trouble" in Eastern Frontier, "Family Reunion" in Sardelac Sanitarium, "Khobay The Betrayer" and "Slaves of Menzies" in Fissure of Woe.

I just went to the Sanatorium but I see no new Quest
Do you?

	30-06-2005 16:21									#283
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Did you get Gwen's tapestry in presearing?

The new PvP rewards are great

	30-06-2005 17:04									#284
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rewards?

	30-06-2005 17:15									#285
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PvP rewards are great if you're in a high-ranked guild and do a lot of GvG. Other than that, it's significantly slower than PvE in most cases. Well, everyone who wants a serious PvP in a team-based game should be in a PvP guild anyway.

	30-06-2005 17:20									#286
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Wow...I wondered what those faction points I was getting this morning. But 1000 points at a minimum is going to take me a long time to get in ascalon arena..!

Best we get on with some more GvG then!

	30-06-2005 17:54									#287
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I do have the parchment, yet the aint no Family Member seeking help there. :/
On the Bright Side my W/N hit Lvl 15 last nigth while my Main Necro reached Marhan’s Grotto :=) Now someone gifts me 75k Gold for that Nifty Armor?

Last edited by Main_Brain on 30-06-2005 at 18:05

	30-06-2005 23:03									#288
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New changes are great, again.

Now they just need to introduce a method for PvE players to get the items they want for PvE that doesn't involve farming.

	30-06-2005 23:12									#289
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I posted this earlier at gwonline, but no one replied.

I guess everyone is too busy posting about how ArenaNet sucks for continuously making great improvements to the game.

GWonline post:

First off kudos to ArenaNet on the changes, which are exactly what was needed in principle, though in practice some details will still need tweaks I'm sure.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss what further improvements could be made, particularly with regard to formulating a way for PvE players to get specific item/rune rewards without having to farm for masses of gold.

Clearly ArenaNet have pushed the bar to its highest ever level in linking PvE and PvP gameplay, but the interactions are still only 1 way - that is, PvE is a method (now one of the two methods) for unlocking things for PvP. I think there is scope for more lovin' for PvE players who want certain items, but don't want (along with ArenaNet!) to farm for the money you need to buy them. One way would be to allow the new faction system to create an actual item for PvE characters.

Now hear me out before you flame - this item would have to be customised and therefore unsaleable. The prices could also (if necessary) be tweaked so that unlocking for PvP and getting an item for PvE was dearer in faction terms. If this system was set up the PvE PvP interaction would be both ways. Those who wanted to play just PvE or just PvP could do so (true for PvP now with faction), but those playing both have more options for unlocking/getting items (half true now, but totally true under my scheme).

The 'other stories', or other method of attaining the goal of allowing PvE players (by attaining something in the game) to get items they want without farming, would be to follow the example of the faction system and make skill points 'reward' points, that could be spent on upgrades and runes for your PvE character. After all, you get these points through cooperative gameplay, which is what everyone wants right? This option would have the further advantage of rewarding people for past gameplay. This is useful as if they introduce item/rune rewards for quests you've done 3 times in PvE you might not want to do them again.

Actually, I see no reason not to do both of these in the long term. The options for unlocking/getting items would be there for any playstyle (and no farming would be necessary for any reason), and PvE and PvP would be integrated in an incredibly elegant way.

	30-06-2005 23:59									#290
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You seem to think PVP has no effect currently on PVE?

Both the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe are areas that are only available when your country has the favor of the gods. This favor is only won through winning PVP games.

IMO, what needs to be done is allowing you to straight up BUY the items with your faction. This would also unlock them for your PVP characters, but you would also HAVE the item in your PVE characters. Would prove useful, especially when seeking a particular weapon mod or two that typically go for some 100K or other outrageous price. 2000 faction (what would be needed IIRC) would be about comparable in terms of time needed I think.

Assuming you are winning PVP, that is.

	01-07-2005 00:36									#291
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx You seem to think PVP has no effect currently on PVE? Both the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe are areas that are only available when your country has the favor of the gods. This favor is only won through winning PVP games.

An effect different from the one I'm proposing. And one that sucks if you are European, but that's a different issue.

quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx IMO, what needs to be done is allowing you to straight up BUY the items with your faction. This would also unlock them for your PVP characters, but you would also HAVE the item in your PVE characters. Would prove useful, especially when seeking a particular weapon mod or two that typically go for some 100K or other outrageous price. 2000 faction (what would be needed IIRC) would be about comparable in terms of time needed I think.

Um, I just said exactly that.

	01-07-2005 00:56									#292
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btw

what do the different colors mean?

JM

	01-07-2005 01:06									#293
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On the Boss-Monsters, they indicate the Class of the Monster (Necro...) so you can tell wheter its worthwhile to hunt for a certain Skill. Did you mean that?

Or the Colours of Items- Blue, Gold etc?

	01-07-2005 01:42									#294
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Um, I just said exactly that.

I thought you were saying have a choice of items. Either unlock a PVP or buy a PVE item, and you could buy one or the other.

I was thinking more that you could buy an item/skill for your PVE character, but it would also be unlocked the next time you made a PVP player.

If I misunderstood you, sorry.

As for the colors, yeah, if it's for monsters it tells you class of monster.

Green is Necro
Red is Elem
Blue is Monk
Yellow is Warrior
Purple/Pink? is Mesmer
And a different green is Ranger

I believe that is the breakdown. I'm color blind though.

	01-07-2005 02:05									#295
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Whereas purple = "uncommon" and yellow/gold = "rare" for items.

	01-07-2005 03:35									#296
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I thought you were saying have a choice of items. Either unlock a PVP or buy a PVE item, and you could buy one or the other. I was thinking more that you could buy an item/skill for your PVE character, but it would also be unlocked the next time you made a PVP player.

Essentially what I suggested was that you could pay more and unlock it for PvP *and* get the item for PvE. I also went further and suggested the item be customised to prevent resale.

I also suggested skill points could be redeemed in a similar fashion for upgrades and runes, which I like as an idea.

	01-07-2005 04:13									#297
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http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/

quote: Warrior Yellow Elementalist Red Mesmer Purple Monk Blue Necromancer Dark Green Ranger Light Green

	01-07-2005 04:27									#298
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quote: Originally posted by Main_Brain http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/

That btw is probably THE best site for locations of elite skills from bosses ...

	01-07-2005 18:12									#299
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I agree, the locations are checked unlike other Sites
BTW:
Life (De)Regeneration is capped at +/-10 correct?

	01-07-2005 21:05									#300
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Not sure ... but I've never tried to get it over that, on my own character anyway. I guess you could take a monk/necro out and try it ... stand in a well of blood and cast breeze on yourself