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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
Yeah, that's how ours work too. Generally they have to work off their tanks, though, then run off to a nearby stream to fill up. I think theres a fire hydrant about 15 miles from here, but I'm pretty close to the big city, ya know... |
Ya we had 500 gallons (IIRC)on our pumpers and the response model was that the first truck went to the fire, pumped its 500 and then laid hose to a water source. The second truck went directly to a water source and laid hose to the fire. Ferrying water was VERY uncommon but then again, this was in newfoundland which has many many many streams,brooks, ponds.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Fighting fires is not all, and in fact is one of the lesser worries on water.
Lack of water to drink seems more ironic to me.
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Given all the water around, a major fire spreading does seem unlikely-- sorry for the tangent but not beiong able to use standing water made no sense to me.
Drinking water will be a huge issue and some people may try drinking the floodwater out of desperation if trapped with no choice-- Does anyone know if it would be predominantly fresh water? The maps I saw seemed to indicate that NO is mainly bounded by lakes and rivers so the floodwater may seem palatable even if it would make you sick
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All the hotels and churches providing assistance are near full in Camden. I think the picture is the same across south AR.
We've housed refugees from hurricanes down south before...just not for this duration of time.
Murphy Oil (in El Dorado) IIRC has a couple Gulf oil rigs and a bigass refinery in Mereaux, LA (I think shortly north of New Orleans). I bet the refinery is junk now, but they have other locations.
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According to NPR this morning, an entire LA parish (the LA equivalent of a county) was washed away by the hurricane. The Gulf of Mexico intrudes 40 miles further than it did previously. |
Environmental catastrophe...this is what the eggheads have been warning us about...
Which parish?
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Dr Strangelove
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Wasn't it the Lower 9th Ward?
Estimates of the mortality rate are now in the thousands.
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Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
time: 06:37
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'Thousands dead' in New Orleans
Elderly woman being helped onto truck
City under siege
Hurricane Katrina is thought to have killed hundreds, probably thousands of people in New Orleans, the city's mayor, Ray Nagin, has said.
Mr Nagin said there were significant numbers of corpses in the waters of the flood-stricken city, while many more people may be dead in their homes.
There would be a total evacuation of the city, he said, warning it could be months before residents could return.
President George W Bush said the area could take years to recover.
Map of central New Orleans
Cutting short a holiday in Texas to take charge of the federal recovery effort, Mr Bush said the government was dealing with one of the worst natural disasters in US history.
"This is going to be a difficult road, the challenges we face on the ground are unprecedented, but there's no doubt in my mind that we'll succeed," he said.
Mr Bush, whose Air Force One plane flew low over the affected area, was taken aback by the scale of the disaster.
Before the phones went, I was told [my family in Biloxi] had lost their roof, barn, 2 oak trees and many pines and they were letting in water
Natalie McVeigh
Oakley, England
Your Katrina experiences
Blogging Katrina
"I can't tell you how devastating the sites were," he said.
With conditions still deteriorating, the government has declared a public health emergency along the whole of the Gulf coast, to speed up the delivery of food, water and fuel to the region.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said 1,700 truckloads of essential supplies were on their way there.
Medical shelters are being set up offering 10,000 beds, while the US military is providing dozens of rescue helicopters and boats.
The Pentagon has ordered 10,000 extra national guardsmen to Louisiana and Mississippi.
Disease problem
Mayor Nagin said he had no choice but to remove the 50,000 to 100,000 people left in the city when the hurricane struck.
Follow Katrina's path
"We have to. The city will not be functional for two to three months," he said.
He said dead bodies in the water would soon create a serious disease problem.
Survivors could be taken out at a rate of up to 15,000 a day.
Counting the dead remains a secondary priority until they are rescued, officials say.
In Mississippi, officials have warned the death toll is likely to climb above the current 110.
Harrison County bore the brunt of Hurricane Katrina as it slammed into Biloxi and Gulfport before heading inland.
Rising water
New Orleans has been plagued by looting, floods and increasingly desperate people, two days after the hurricane.
American Red Cross donations
www.redcross.org
tel (in the US): 1 800 HELP NOW
About a million people evacuated from the area before the hurricane struck, but tens of thousands of others are trapped in the city.
The authorities are planning to evacuate up to 20,000 people from the city's Superdome stadium where sanitary conditions are said to be appalling.
Four people believed to be elderly or infirm died there overnight, according to reports.
Surges of flood water submerged more areas of the city after failed attempts to plug breaches in the barriers which are supposed to protect it.
The search for survivors continues in New Orleans as waters continue to rise
In pictures
The pumps which usually assist are no longer working because of the rising levels.
The BBC's Alastair Leithead in New Orleans says there is panic as vital supplies run out. Heavily armed police have been trying to impose a form of martial law to stem looting.
While some looters are stealing non-essential goods, others are simply trying to find food and water.
Survivors are being found all the time.
In Mississippi, two children who lost their parents were taken to safety. In New Orleans, people are still being winched from roofs.
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