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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Patroklos
So you hold Bush responsible, thanks. |
Among many others. He is the head of the government. He is responsible for how his government functions. If it fails to function, he is responsible.
Clinton hadn't rebuilt FEMA then, since he wouldn't be POTUS for another four years. BTW, how old were you then: two, three?
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And just how did the Feds get so good Che? |
They prepared before hand. They were ready for what was coming, not sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.
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What is the major differance between a Florida hurricane and a New Orleans one that the people have never had do deal with on such a scale? |
Forgot about Andrew, have we? Bush's father did just as much of a **** up there as his son has done in the Gulf.
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And finally, how fast was their resonce to the first major Florida hurricane? |
Last year, with Charlie, it was excellent. Our first major storm since Bush's father.
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Or I am not letting my emotions get in the way of my thought process. |
Of your intellect, apparently.
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L'Boro, UK
Oct 2001
time: 05:32
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They declined those already. Were always going to and Fidel knew too tbh. Kuwaitis offering $500M in oil is quite a nice donation though i thought.
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Patroklos
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Back home in good ole Norfolk VA
Dec 2001
time: 05:32
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Wow. You really like this reductionist argument, don't you?
He doesn't just hold Bush responsible--he holds Mayor Nagin, Congress, FEMA's Brown responsible too, among other things.
Of course, that doesn't matter to you, does it? |
How does this in any way change the fact that he blames Bush.
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He is the head of the government. He is responsible for how his government functions. If it fails to function, he is responsible. |
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Clinton hadn't rebuilt FEMA then, since he wouldn't be POTUS for another four years. |
Precisely, which means not only do I have experiance with hurricans, but a worse experiance at that.
This...
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They prepared before hand. They were ready for what was coming, not sitting around with their thumbs up their asses. |
Is inconsistant with this...
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Forgot about Andrew, have we? Bush's father did just as much of a **** up there as his son has done in the Gulf. |
Pick a side.
Andrew is what I was getting at. The disaster response mechanisms of this country learned about hurricane response because of Andrew, and that is the reason why Florida suffers far less now. And lets not pat them on the backs just yet, because there have been major mistakes in Florida hurricanes since. However, each time things get better until now hurricanes seem to just passed over harmlessly, like Charlie (of course that is not really the case).
Andrew did not flood out 80 square kilometers, nore did it impede access to the devastated regions. This is new.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:32
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Originally posted by Patroklos
How does this in any way change the fact that he blames Bush. |
Except the way your argument and rhetoric is structured, you take it OUT OF CONTEXT. Yes, he blames Bush. But that's not the whole story, either.
And yet, you merrily ignore the rest of that story.
Incidentally, you completely ignore my long post on why people are holding Bush responsible--the government, for better or worse, is treated as a reflection of him, whether you like it or not.
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Precisely, which means not only do I have experiance with hurricans, but a worse experiance at that. |
experience. hurricanes.
Is this what we're doing now? A pissing contest over who's been through worse disasters?
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Patroklos
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Back home in good ole Norfolk VA
Dec 2001
time: 05:32
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Except the way your argument and rhetoric is structured, you take it OUT OF CONTEXT. Yes, he blames Bush. But that's not the whole story, either.
And yet, you merrily ignore the rest of that story.
Incidentally, you completely ignore my long post on why people are holding Bush responsible--the government, for better or worse, is treated as a reflection of him, whether you like it or not. |
I dind't ignore anything, I noted that he blames Bush. Which is correct.
And I did not notice the page break, posts are coming in fast, I will go back.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Patroklos
I dind't ignore anything, I noted that he blames Bush. |
In the context of your post, it was implied that I blamed no one but Bush. Bush is responsible on several elves, from cutting FEMA's funding, to cutting ACE's funding, to opposing the restoration of the Louisiana wetlands (though he's behind the plan to restore the Everglades, maybe Louisanna needs to elect one of Bush's brothers). By not canceling his vacation earlier, then going off to a funder raiser in California, he gave the impression of not caring (Chief Counselor is one of his jobs), he didn't get enough aid in to the area soon enough. I could go on. He ****ed up.
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L'Boro, UK
Oct 2001
time: 05:32
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I didn't say Cuba would not have sent it, but also that they knew that it would never be accepted. It'd be too good a propaganda opportunity.
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