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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:36
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Besides, the afternoon stump can be largely affected by what you're eating at lunch. If you're eating foods that are difficult to digerate (heavy foods such as French fries, for examples), your body will divert more energy in the digestion than otherwise.
I haven't observed my own experience with enough discipline to say sure shots, but my general impression is that low fat foods are less tiresome: green veggies, pasta, fruit, rice, white meat.
Another thing is that you can feel tired if you hadn't eaten enough recently. In particular, if your body can't take energy from available sugars. Fast-sugars such as those found in sodas suck in this regard, because they're quickly assimilated into fat. Slow-sugars, however, are a good idea for you to remain awake during the hours after your lunch (you might have a short downtime right after eating them though, due to digestion)
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mrmitchell
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Dr Pepper at 10, 2, and 4....
I can't think of any substitute. Other than eat more lighter stuff, like Spiffor said.
Sleep more at night, too, if possible
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:36
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In any case, if you have high blood-sugar, I'd advise you to ask a specialist. In general, sugars are good for being energetic* (I include slow sugars such as pasta), but in your particular case, they might be unappropriate. A nutrition specialist would give tips more appropriate to your case.
*I once experienced the lack of energy due to the complete lack of sugar. For 36 hours, I had barely eaten anything, and it was sugar-low meat IIRC. I had a good share of sleep, but I still felt that my brain was functioning at very low capacity - I was unable to focus, and generally felt very tired.
I was dragged at the beer festival, where I ate a fruit+chocolate candy, which was a caricature of "sweet"  I felt better almost immediately, and it was noticeable to the outside as well 
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Barinthus
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A Magical Moment...
Jan 2004
time: 21:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Spiffor
Besides, the afternoon stump can be largely affected by what you're eating at lunch. If you're eating foods that are difficult to digerate (heavy foods such as French fries, for examples), your body will divert more energy in the digestion than otherwise.
I haven't observed my own experience with enough discipline to say sure shots, but my general impression is that low fat foods are less tiresome: green veggies, pasta, fruit, rice, white meat.
Another thing is that you can feel tired if you hadn't eaten enough recently. In particular, if your body can't take energy from available sugars. Fast-sugars such as those found in sodas suck in this regard, because they're quickly assimilated into fat. Slow-sugars, however, are a good idea for you to remain awake during the hours after your lunch (you might have a short downtime right after eating them though, due to digestion) |
Today I had slices of pumpernickel bread with soft cheese spread along with baby tomatoes and basil leaves at lunch at 12:40, the slump started at around 2:15
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Barinthus
No medical condition here (afaik anyway lol). It's more to maintain my weight - I'm already mildly overweight (at 6 foot tall, I weight at uhh 220-230). My metabolism is low so I do have to be aware of what I put into my body. |
True. I had a similar problem (grew overweight because I didn't take care and had a low metabolism, now a lightweight after two successful low-scale diets  )
I was a student during the time of weight-stability between my two diets, and thus I didn't really have a daily routine. However, the most "daily" aspect of my routine was the lunch at the uni restaurant. My rules of thumb were:
- pretty much always avoid fat. It's fat that I was trying to lose, or at least not to gain.
- Avoid fast sugars, except fruit. Since vitamins are good, vitamin juice is acceptable, if considered as the source of fast sugar for the meal.
- Eat slow-sugars at lunch. A good rule of thumb is to eat in preparation for the incoming effort (the afternoon), rather than to make up for past effort.
- eat veggies whenever they're available. I can't go wrong with veggies, unless I don't eat anything else.
Now, I don't think I've ever lived as healthily as during that time, especially in the periods where my sleep püatterns weren't messed up. In particular, I felt much less quickly tired than usual. I think that's because I had a good combination of the three components:
- reasonable intake of sugar (they're the ones who provide actual energy, so I didn't shun them)
- vitamins, either in form of fruit and vegetables, or in form of vitamin juice (you might want to try the vitamin pills if you're into it, I never tried myself). My supermarkt sells such juices without added sugars.
- easy-to digest foods, that weren't too tiring after lunch (though I was often useless in the 30 first minutes after eating)
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What I really need is to hit the gym and on a regularly basis too. However it's easier said than done. |
Swimming gooooooood
Gym is baaaaaaaaaaad
Generally speaking, gyms are good for people who wish to develop their muscle, which generally results in mass increase. For those who rather wish to lose fat, the intense effort at gym isn't good. Endurance efforts are better, and swimming is great all around. If you can spend two-three consecutive hours swimming sometime in the week, it will help.
I have much trouble with self-discipline, and I've noticed it worked better when I had a routine with reliable friends
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VJ
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Helsinki
Dec 2001
time: 07:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Spiffor
quote:
Originally posted by Barinthus
No medical condition here (afaik anyway lol). It's more to maintain my weight - I'm already mildly overweight (at 6 foot tall, I weight at uhh 220-230). My metabolism is low so I do have to be aware of what I put into my body. |
True. I had a similar problem (grew overweight because I didn't take care and had a low metabolism, now a lightweight after two successful low-scale diets )
I was a student during the time of weight-stability between my two diets, and thus I didn't really have a daily routine. However, the most "daily" aspect of my routine was the lunch at the uni restaurant. My rules of thumb were:
- pretty much always avoid fat. It's fat that I was trying to lose, or at least not to gain.
- Avoid fast sugars, except fruit. Since vitamins are good, vitamin juice is acceptable, if considered as the source of fast sugar for the meal.
- Eat slow-sugars at lunch. A good rule of thumb is to eat in preparation for the incoming effort (the afternoon), rather than to make up for past effort.
- eat veggies whenever they're available. I can't go wrong with veggies, unless I don't eat anything else.
Now, I don't think I've ever lived as healthily as during that time, especially in the periods where my sleep püatterns weren't messed up. In particular, I felt much less quickly tired than usual. I think that's because I had a good combination of the three components:
- reasonable intake of sugar (they're the ones who provide actual energy, so I didn't shun them)
- vitamins, either in form of fruit and vegetables, or in form of vitamin juice (you might want to try the vitamin pills if you're into it, I never tried myself). My supermarkt sells such juices without added sugars.
- easy-to digest foods, that weren't too tiring after lunch (though I was often useless in the 30 first minutes after eating)
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What I really need is to hit the gym and on a regularly basis too. However it's easier said than done. |
Swimming gooooooood
Gym is baaaaaaaaaaad
Generally speaking, gyms are good for people who wish to develop their muscle, which generally results in mass increase. For those who rather wish to lose fat, the intense effort at gym isn't good. Endurance efforts are better, and swimming is great all around. If you can spend two-three consecutive hours swimming sometime in the week, it will help.
I have much trouble with self-discipline, and I've noticed it worked better when I had a routine with reliable friends |
If you're planning to build some muscles, this is a horrible piece of advice. Works for dropping your weight, though.
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and the sugars in fruit are simple sugars... you really need to learn more about nutrition... simple sugars = good... complex sugars = bad (processed foods) |
Ehh, it's really not that simple even if you reverse the "good" and the "bad" there. If more complex sugars would be automatically a better thing for us, we'd be eating trees instead of vegetables or fruits.
If you want to keep it really simple, just remember that more refined = BAD.
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:36
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[SIZE=1]Spiffor - please give few examples of slow sugars? |
Pasta is the archetype of slow sugary food. That's what endurance athletes eat before a continuous effort.
There's also rice, and all kind of beans. Wheat-based foods are also a good source of slow sugars IIRC (including cereal, when it's not a sugar-bomb). Simple bread is, in general, a good addition to any meal.
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07-09-2005 05:38
drinking a cup of coffee (or god forbid, TWO) is not going to make you caffeine dependent...
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