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Choke is offline Choke
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i'll post the game tonight

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sorry, all, i've been work a load lately, here's the turn.

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In the final act of the peace treaty between Russia and Britain, the city of stockholm was handed over to British control, thus cementing the nordic countries under british rule.

Other than this, not much happened although the British Navy was slightly miffed to see the Italian Navy shadowing their ships and have staged some funny manuvers

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Now that Britain has gone, their puppet can go

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Nothing to report.

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Can you please bump me via PM or email in future? I'm more likely to notice that then a post in a thread I've half forgotten about

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Retaliation for German troops remaining upon Russian soil is meated out!

Germany has continued to ignore our diplomatic notes about German troops remaining on Russian soil. Perhaps they will listen when a bayonet is sent with the letter. In response to German troops occupying territory inside the city radius of Vilna. Russian troops have occupied territory inside German cities limits at Reval.

In addition to this action, Russian soldiers have appeared outside the city of Riga in response to German engineers found deep within Russia. This can be no mere accident, Germany is trying to pull a fast one over russia. The offending engineers will be disbanded immediately or Russia will disband them for Germany

At the end of hostilities, the German troops were farther west than they are now. They have since moved 6 tiles East, they are obviously heading for the Russian steppes. This will not be tolerated.

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The troops outside Vilna were in a valid defensive position, and were never mentioned in the peace agreement. I have yet to hear you say a word until now. They will withdraw, but kindly asking several turns ago would have worked fine.

However, we fail to see how engineers building infrastructure in your country at no cost can be perceived as a threat. At the end of the war, they were so deep in Russia that getting past zones of control would have been more of a hassle than they were worth, so they were ordered on the humanitarian mission of reconstruction. Again, you had plenty of time to complain about this as well (although I can't comprehend complaining about having my land improved for free).

If this seriously seems threatening to you, the engineers will be withdrawn, not disbanded. It could take several turns however, which is why I didn't bother to move them in the first place. Any attack on them will cost you your capital... again.

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Germany couldn't possibly be building a railroad that would allow further conquest of Russia...?

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Ridiculous, were our engineers never there, the railroad would have been built by Russian engineers, so it makes no difference either way.

Also, if we had ANY desire to conquer Russia we would have done it already, back when we had a valid pretext.

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Thanks for the clarification

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The troops outside Vilna were in a valid defensive position, and were never mentioned in the peace agreement. I have yet to hear you say a word until now. They will withdraw, but kindly asking several turns ago would have worked fine.

Valid as in within my city limits?

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Did that council of Europe get formed yet? If so, I call upon the council to ask Germany to vacate the fortess within the city limits of the town of Vilna. Diplomatic notes in the past have failed to make any impression upon the German Chancellory, perhaps the Council of Europe can do better.


And digging in my AIM logs...

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Session Start (AIM - dschowyarius 871 @Poly): Thu May 01 21:16:47 2003
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dschowy: you have a consrcipt division fortified inside russian territory between konisberg and Vilna, occupying valuable russian land.
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The treaty specified the withdrawl of German troops from Russian soil, you haven't done that.




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However, we fail to see how engineers building infrastructure in your country at no cost can be perceived as a threat.


I have found no new infrastructure that has been built by your engineers. you also had a few military units remaining in the same area as the engineers at the end of the war, were you too lazy to remove them from Russia as well?

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Italy urges Germany and Russia to be more friendly towards eachother

Also:
Council or no Council we have to decide on wether we are to have railroads in the game or not.
IMHO they unbalance the game a lot, allowing unrealistic one turn blitzes capable of destroying entire nations. I say we remove all railroads (I'd simply edit them out, leaving only roads and making the continued building of rails impossible) and instead increase the road multiplier to 9 or 10.
That's a lot of lost railroad and wasted engineer time I know, but imho it'll be worth it...

Italy's turn:

Not much happening today

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Valid as in within my city limits?


Yep. If you had a fortress two squares from Konigsberg I wouldn't say a word, unless of course it was on valuable land (unlike my fortress along the Lithuanian border). Not a single word. Feel free to send engineers to the Rhineland as well, see if I complain.

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quote:
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Did that council of Europe get formed yet? If so, I call upon the council to ask Germany to vacate the fortess within the city limits of the town of Vilna. Diplomatic notes in the past have failed to make any impression upon the German Chancellory, perhaps the Council of Europe can do better.


And digging in my AIM logs...

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Session Start (AIM - dschowyarius 871 @Poly): Thu May 01 21:16:47 2003
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dschowy: you have a consrcipt division fortified inside russian territory between konisberg and Vilna, occupying valuable russian land.
[General chatting removed]


Like I already told you, I just forgot. Why? 1) I'm a jackass and 2) because I frankly didn't care, since I wouldn't be bothered if I were in your shoes. As you said on AIM, I sure won't forget this time.

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I have found no new infrastructure that has been built by your engineers.


If you'll look closely, one has built a road through forests northeast of Kiev, and is about to (or was about to) start construction of a railroad their to assist the lumber industry there. The other detachment of engineers are en route to Chernigov to assist in the construction of a link to Batum. This is all they were ABLE to do in the 2-3 turns I've played so far.

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you also had a few military units remaining in the same area as the engineers at the end of the war, were you too lazy to remove them from Russia as well?


Er, there were NO German armies anywhere inside Russian territory at the end of the war, only engineers. I don't know what you think you saw, but here is our map circa January 1907:

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I'm with Henrik, no more RRs, mabye on industrial squares, but that's it.

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bump *****!!!

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Going to Croatia tomorow, can we put this on hold for a week?

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looks like it's been on hold for a while

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Well while we're waiting, are we agreed on the RR's? And who would do it?

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Ok, Dave asked me if I wanted Germany... I'm not dying for another game but if it'll save this one I'm in. Ok with everyone I guess?

edit: It'll definitely be open for Jmarks if he comes back, btw.


I'm ba-ack! That is if everyone will let me back. Lost my civ2 disc, but I can just use my ToT...

-And I would also concur on getting rid of RRs... it makes taking over the world so much more slower and tastier without them .... if possible I would like to have a third party not directly associated with the game to go in and remove them.

So, can I come back.... Paweese?

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No doubt, I hope Germany's how you would have wanted it.

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Speaking of which, who's turn is it?

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I actually think its Germany's is it not? after Italy?

And welcome back JMarks, an ally who i can trust, no offence Darius

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Hell I don't care, but I didn't have any different plans.

Anyway, France is after Italy.

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Um... yeah, I don't go untill after Jugoslavia (former France)...

Anyway, uh Darius, could I ask you to continue to cover for me for one more week? I'm out of town and don't have my disc with me. Thanks.

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from now on, notify me by pm when it's my turn, i'm not going to waste anymore time visiting this forum every day to see if something actually happened.

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Um... yeah, I don't go untill after Jugoslavia (former France)...

Anyway, uh Darius, could I ask you to continue to cover for me for one more week? I'm out of town and don't have my disc with me. Thanks.


Foshizzle, but it probably won't be my turn before you're back.

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