25-11-2001 06:05									#181
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Hmm, I'll have a look at the Civilopedia entries I've been working on. I hadn't messed with the Governments as I thought they were all done. I'll let you know.


As far as Facism-

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	25-11-2001 06:09									#182
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Sadly, you're right. Nothing added...I'll fix that soon enough.


BTW, you can use any graphics mods with this. This will just overwright the civ3mod.bic...Of curse you should back it up before installing this one.

	25-11-2001 06:21									#183
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I think we could really take this someplace- open up the tech tree some more, add in more wonders and units, along with a few more governments (Fundamentalism, and a late game warmonger, moneymonger, and peacemonger... maybe even one with a goverment-specific wonder that adds a huge amount of culture for a late-game culture victory grab).

	25-11-2001 06:40									#184
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Cian,

All great ideas. Believe me we are working on most of them. It is just time consuming, especially to get it to be just right. You saw how long that Statue of Liberty thing took, right? That was just a tip of the iceburg. New techs will have to wait for now as that seems to screw things up.


Needless to saw we are anxiously awaiting the release of a better editor. Any specific suggestions you can make would be appreciated as well.


BTW, I am working on uplaoding the current mod I have. Version 1.4. I belive Monkspider may have a newer one, but I haven't heard from him in a couple of days, so I'll do what I can.

EDIT: Typo

	25-11-2001 06:51									#185
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quote: Needless to saw we are anxiously awaiting the release of a better editor. Any specific suggestions you can make would be appreciated as well.

God, who isn't?

There's a few people out there who are re-working the tech tree (Arkatreides being one that leaps to mind)- you may want to hook up with him to help, and I'll get working on those spashes tomorrow night- got a party to go to shortly...

	25-11-2001 06:55									#186
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Have fun!


EDIT: Oh yeah, I'll definately look into it.

	25-11-2001 06:59									#187
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For all of those having problems downloading the mod...try this

It is still on geocities (hey this is all I have), but it is on my website...that hadn't existed since 1997.


Revival just for Civ3. I hate HTML.

EDIT: I still have some more to update in the civilopedia, fixed the facism thing, though. It is hard to keep all of that straight, especially since I didn't do most of it. Not complaining, Monkspider, you have done well, I'm just saying.

	25-11-2001 09:29									#188
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Here is something that just came to my mind and now it is kinda bothering me. I don't recall anywhere it being mentioned before, but when I look in my civlopedia after downloading this mod (only this mod that I am aware of) under units, I have 2 extra units and they are the mamaluke and mangudai. What's bothering me is does everyone have this? And if so how do I make them, there seems to be no real mention about what it takes to make them and I have never made them. I am just curious about this and any input would be greatly appreciated. BTW I am playing crash free with this mod and I must say that I love it please keep up the good work guys.

	25-11-2001 11:19									#189
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From what I have gathered from Monkspider. He was trying to add a couple of civs. These were going to be their Unique Unit. They are not usable yet. Sorry about that.

Anything else I can help you with?

Any suggestions?

	25-11-2001 11:40									#190
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Yeah, they were for the Arab civ he's trying to add in- the graphics are taken from AoK I believe...

As for the website, you're still going to get the same problem just clicking the link unfortunately- it has to be cut and pasted.

[EDIT] Oh, I just realized you meant trouble with the mod, not just d/l-ing it.

Also, dinner parties rule

	25-11-2001 11:44									#191
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So you had a good time I take it?

	25-11-2001 11:50									#192
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Cian,

Your right. I didn't realize tha Geocities doesn't allow that. They used to.

How about visiting the main page and downloading from there. I know a big pain. Sorry about that.


But until I can find another place to store this...

	25-11-2001 12:06									#193
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Yeah, that's been like that since at least January when I got online- it's the same with images hosted on Geocities: they don't show.

quote: So you had a good time I take it?

Lovely- small gatherings with good food (leftover killer apple cobbler and homemade whipped cream- goddamn!) and a little wine and some good conversation.

My second favorite type of gathering.

	25-11-2001 12:10									#194
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I don't want to know your favorite type of gathering then, do I?

	25-11-2001 12:24									#195
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LOL

Don't see why not- about 15-20 people, good music- not too loud, good alcohol (much more than the simple wine of a dinner party), and great conversations- these are the ones with old and true friends that make up a good portion of what life is all about.

	25-11-2001 12:26									#196
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whew. I was a little worried there for a moment.

	25-11-2001 13:01									#197
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thanks for uploading 1.4 buddy, I can't believe i am having so much trouble with Geocities. that is the 3rd Geocities account I have gone through already. Don't worry, we shall persevere, tonight, I will create yet another one and update the front page link.
By the way, did you get the email I sent you Eluc?, just want to make sure that the address was correct.

Also, I really liked your idea of the scientist/tax collector bonuses, but sady, what we can do with the city workers right now is extremely limited. As soon as it can be implemented it will, I assure you.

Also some news on 1.5, all I can say is that it will be the biggest update yet, tackling issues all new issues in the game never before tackled, and will certainly be the biggest update to the game yet. Monarchy and Republic should be, more or less, about as good as any other government in the game, and will definitely be viable late game governments. Also, there will be more individuality for each of the existing governments, and quite a few surprises to boot.

Also, I hope to have the game in a "easy to install" format, as suggested by a previous poster, as installing each indvidual file after 1.5 would be quite the task indeed.

	25-11-2001 13:08									#198
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Monkspider,

I have already done the leg-work for the zip-file. Download what I put out there and that should give you the basic format.

What email? I got one from you a while back, but nothing recently.

	25-11-2001 13:09									#199
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Sounds good man- as soon as my roommate gets home and tells me where he stowed that PS 6.0 I'll get cracking on the splashes.

quote: I can't believe i am having so much trouble with Geocities

All Geocities sites are like that man- they do not allow links of any kind to interior files from a website and they do not allow images hosted by them to appear on any other website. It's to keep people from using them for measures such as this and to make sure that people visit their site.

I have a solution to that small problem however, and it should be ready in about a week or so's time.

	25-11-2001 13:16									#200
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Alright yahoo is acting weird. I just got an email from them saying my box was almost full. I went in there and it said I was using 2%. Stupid website.


So how are you guys doing?

	25-11-2001 13:18									#201
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Uh-oh. I played Civ3 a little too long this time, my system can't even open a PCX any more. I gotta reboot. I'll talk at you later. BTW guys, I had some more ideas, but I'll post 'em tomorrow.

	25-11-2001 13:42									#202
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I'm not too bad, went shopping at some places and saw Shallow Hal with the Mrs. today. Got a lot of my christmas shopping out of the way early actually, which totally went against my fervent procrastination tendencies. I know, I know, I should have been working on 1.5. I'll try to chain myself to my computer tommorow.
I tried mailing you again E-Luc old buddy, try to check your elucidus@geocities.com account.

	25-11-2001 15:25									#203
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1.41 is back online!
get it here
http://www.geocities.com/docdoom9/BALANCER141.zip

	25-11-2001 22:01									#204
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Same as before-

1. Cut/paste the addy into your browser bar
2. Hit Enter/Go

	25-11-2001 23:22									#205
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Hmm, not working. I'll try again later.

	25-11-2001 23:45									#206
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Monkspider I did get your email. And replied. BTW could you send me a copy of the latest. I'd like to get it up somewhere else, but I can't download yours.

	26-11-2001 00:49									#207
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Managed to come down with a cold this past week, so I've had little time for playtesting, let alone making some of the changes I'd wanted to.

Did manage to play a bit on a brand new game, and my girlfriend played a bit too. Couple of critisicms about 1.4x, but otherwise I'm really enjoying it:

- Moving Longevity to "Medicine" seems unbalancing; Medicine is *before* Sanitation, which allows you to build above 12 Pop. In both games the benefit of Longevity and hospitals at the same time led to a huge increase to the civ that built the wonder: size 20 cities in 1700 AD...

- I think Galleys were upped to a movement of 4? I think 3 would be much better, as it limits exploration in the beginning...

- Were resource ratios changed? On a standard map there were 12 (yes, *twelve*) gems total - 8 of which were in the same city radius. That seems a bit excessive...

Otherwise, I'm greatly enjoying the mod. Keep up the good work.

Yaga

	26-11-2001 04:28									#208
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Hey yaga, thanks for the comments, I actually didn't mess with resources a bit, so I think that was just a fluke game, as far as I can tell.
I think you may be right about Longevity, it's tough to strike a good balance for this wonder. At genetics it's worthless, but at medicine it might be a little too good. I'm considering moving it up to Scientific Method, that might be a little more balancing I think.

	26-11-2001 07:20									#209
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Why are you using geocities? God, do they suck. Isn't there a more reliable free site provider around somewhere? BTW, I just noticed a small problem with the 141 release. The colonist and settler small pictures don't show up - that is, in the build queue and, like on a transport. Pretty insignificant, but thought you should know.

	26-11-2001 07:36									#210
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Cyanide

that sounds like the exact same problem i was having when i tried to add a unit!

are you in the industrial age yet? has the small picture for settlers turned into a worker, and the small pic for workers are gone also?