05-04-2002 07:46									#1
	Should Homosexuals Recieve A Tax Deduction? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Of course I'm acting under the assumption that homosexuality is a disorder on the same level as obesity. This is because man's primary biological purpose is reproduction, and this obviously cannot be accomplished by, shall we say, "gay behavior" alone.

If the obese (shall we say, fat) people all get tax deductions (which in America they now do), should homosexuals also be given some extra cash as well? Let's look at the facts.

FAT people get money from the government mainly as incentive to go join a weight loss clinic. The idea is that hopefully this will eventually reduce the number of obese in the nation and confront a public health crisis head on.

So should GAY people recieve money to get rid of their homosexuality through counseling or doctor visits? If eating too much is a health issue, having a population totally incapable of reproduction certainly is as well...

It's a simple question..do gays deserve money from the government as incentive to become straight, as fat people deserve money from the government as incentive to become thin?

	05-04-2002 07:48									#2
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quote: Of course I'm acting under the assumption that homosexuality is a disorder on the same level as obesity. This is because man's primary biological purpose is reproduction, and this obviously cannot be accomplished by, shall we say, "gay behavior" alone

Neither can it be accomplished by celibacy. I thought you were a great supporter of the Catholic Church (although I may be confusing you with Boobie here).

	05-04-2002 07:50									#3
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The number of religious folk is dropping, the number of gays is rising.

	05-04-2002 07:51									#4
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Those statements are questionable ina ddition to being irrelevant to this discussion.

	05-04-2002 07:53									#5
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We aren't all becoming priests, it isn't a public health crisis as homosexuality may be.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Those statements are questionable ina ddition to being irrelevant to this discussion.

Im operating under the assumption that this whole discussion is irrevelant. Curious, but still irrelevant.


or better yet, ill just answer the original question with NO.

	05-04-2002 07:54									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf We aren't all becoming priests, it isn't a public health crisis as homosexuality may be.

So you do admit that being a priest should be treated as a disorder?

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Wiglaf, did you eat paint chips as a kid?

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why are you assuming that homosexuality is a disease?

This differentiation between gays and straight people does not help anything. Homosexuals are just as capable of leading productive lives and being good people as is anybody else. The only difference is whom they are attracted to. Sure we may call it wrong but that does not make it a disease nor does that mean that homosexuals should get any special treatment, whether positive or negative. They're individuals first off...


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	05-04-2002 07:56									#10
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quote: The only difference is whom they are attracted to. Sure we may call it wrong but that does not make it a disease

Huh? It's a disorder as obesity is. Wake up, our primary biological purpose is reproduction...sex with another guy ain't helping in that regard.

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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Huh? It's a disorder as obesity is. Wake up, our primary biological purpose is reproduction

Should monogamy be treated as a disorder as well? I could get used to that idea...

"loinburger's reeducation center for monogamous women..." Wutang!

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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Huh? It's a disorder as obesity is. Wake up, our primary biological purpose is reproduction...sex with another guy ain't helping in that regard.

So therefore men who wear condoms should get a tax deduction.
Therefore women who take birth control pills should get a tax deduction.
Therefore women who get abortions should get a tax deduction.

Wiglaf, if your primary purpose is reproduction, then why are you posting here? Why aren't you out rutting like bunnies?

The mods should lock this thread before it gets any worse.

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Another freakin' troll thread that has no potential for intelligent conversation.

There are three sexual orientations:

1) heterosexuality

2) homosexuality

3) bisexuality

None of these three sexual orientations are any kind of disorder, disease, or illness.

However, if you want to form a distorted opinion that is in disagreement with the American Pscyhology Association and the American Medical Association, go ahead, Wiggy.

	05-04-2002 08:02									#15
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I'm wondering if I can get tax-credits for weening myself off my latex addiction.

	05-04-2002 08:03									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Another freakin' troll thread that has no potential for intelligent conversation

Hush, now. I'm having fun.

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why the hell should this be closed? he has a right to his opinion and he's not breaking any forum rules... oh wait... that doesnt hold up no more...

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The obese get a deduction. (which is true if you haven't noticed) Therefore gays deserve one too, as both disorders can bring down the country.

What exactly is wrong with that logic?

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer why the hell should this be closed? he has a right to his opinion and he's not breaking any forum rules... oh wait... that doesnt hold up no more...

It's the same old debate we've had hundreds of times with a new veil. What this thread is going to become is people posting pictures of muppets, people laughing at Wiggy, people arguing about homosexuality being a disorder/disease, people calling other people bigots, etc.

No good can come from it, it's an extension of previous trolls, so it should be closed.

	05-04-2002 08:06									#20
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I think we should give tax credits to homosexuals.

Hey, the world is getting mighty populated. Homosexuality would keep the birthrate down.

Besides lesbians are cool.

	05-04-2002 08:07									#21
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quote: What exactly is wrong with that logic?

The problem lies in your assumption that homosexuality is a medical disorder.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher No good can come from it

And what, pray tell, is wrong with muppets?

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You can argue your opinions WITHOUT trolling, and without attacking a legitimate minority group out of hatred or ignorance.

I would like this troll thread to be locked if no one can successfully thread-jack this thread into an intelligent conversation on sexual orientation.

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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf The obese get a deduction. (which is true if you haven't noticed) Therefore gays deserve one too, as both disorders can bring down the country. What exactly is wrong with that logic?

Why do the obese get a deduction?
Can you show me where you get this info, because, if true, I'll start pigging out now just to get the deduction later.....the pigout savings plan.

	05-04-2002 08:09									#25
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I'd be a homosexual for a tax credit

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quote: I would like this troll thread to be locked if no one can successfully thread-jack this thread into an intelligent conversation on sexual orientation

And I'd like you to stop attempting to dictate the flow of conversation. While I wouldn't call Wiglaf's post reasonable, it falls a long way from hate or spam. It's almost enjoyable to watch him twist...

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: What exactly is wrong with that logic? The problem lies in your assumption that homosexuality is a medical disorder.

It obviously, whether you believe in God or not, isn't sensible for a human to be born without the drive to reproduce. Only some sort of biological defect could allow such a thing to occur.

That defect is homosexuality. Give 'em a tax deduction. Where am I wrong?

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alright, Mr. Fun... i'll make it intelligent.


Gay Pride: Self-Destroying?

Are gay pride parades and flamboyant homosexuality self-destroying for homosexuals as these more vocal gays often become the stereotype for all homosexuals and ruin any chance at understanding between homosexuals and hetereosexuals?


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	05-04-2002 08:12									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf It obviously, whether you believe in God or not, isn't sensible for a human to be born without the drive to reproduce. Only some sort of biological defect could allow such a thing to occur. That defect is homosexuality. Give 'em a tax deduction. Where am I wrong?

Should I be given tax credits for therapy sessions to ween me off my latex habit? Such a condition is obviously a biological defect by the standards you're using.

	05-04-2002 08:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf It obviously, whether you believe in God or not, isn't sensible for a human to be born without the drive to reproduce. Only some sort of biological defect could allow such a thing to occur. That defect is homosexuality. Give 'em a tax deduction. Where am I wrong?

Wiggy, stop your bulls**tting. If you want serious discussion about sexual orientation, you're not succeeding.

You have ignored my arguments on this thread, which tells me a little more about you.

Can one of the moderators please close this troll thread??