06-04-2002 21:34									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Link, book, fast. Lean towards the Fox side as opposed to the Discovery Channel manner of reporting if you can.

Somehow, I imagine searching for A FOX LINK!!! with the keywords "orangutan" and "rape" will turn up an awful lot of articles about Bill Clinton.



Wiggums--you are one pathetic troll. Whose DL are you?

	06-04-2002 21:50									#182
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I can always look forward to you adding a good deal of sauce and spice to each thread you elect to spread your amazingly unyielding joy in, Guynemer. Chalk me up as forever changed and my soul eternally uplifted by your remarkable contribution to this discussion.

The fact of the matter is, Guynie, you can't (and no one can, really) say that homosexuality isn't a problem. Saying it's on the same level as obesity on the public health crisis scale is being rather generous after all.

Unless you think being gay (the biolgical equal of cutting your balls off) isn't a big deal?

	06-04-2002 21:54									#183
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At first this was sorta funny, wiggy... but now it is getting damn annoying... would you care to back up any of your statements at all, instead of pulling assumptions out of your ass?

	06-04-2002 21:56									#184
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You want me to prove that sex with another guy ain't reproduction, or what?

	06-04-2002 21:59									#185
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Speaking of human civilization: according to nature, girls under 18 year old _should_ be making babies, from the very first "that time of the month" onward. Why doesn't Wiggy demand that 11-18 girls to be sexually active as they should be by all nature's laws?
And, all little boys able to ejaculate MUST be having sex everyday, without condoms! Natural instinct gives those "stiffies" so that we may use them. Keep those babies coming or we might perish!

If they bleed they can breed! We must keep the species going on!

It makes perfect sense according to Wiglaf.

"When did ignorance become a point of view?" -Dilbert

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	06-04-2002 22:00									#186
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Anyway gay people can and do reproduce. Hardly being castrated.

	06-04-2002 22:01									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf You want me to prove that sex with another guy ain't reproduction, or what?

That is not what is at question here... what is at question here is that you are calling homosexuality a disease.

	06-04-2002 22:07									#188
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Ok. How about this?

Humans intend to evolve in such a way that will further the species (basic fact). It makes no sense for the body to evolve into a being not willed to reproduce..it is a very negative trait (common sense)...on the same level as obesity and, generally speaking, on the same level as having one ear, no legs, etc.

Where do you disagree, Gianny?

	06-04-2002 22:11									#189
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Ok. How about this? Humans intend to evolve in such a way that will further the species (basic fact). It makes no sense for the body to evolve into a being not willed to reproduce..it is a very negative trait (common sense)...on the same level as obesity and, generally speaking, on the same level as having one ear, no legs, etc. Where do you disagree, Gianny?

That you denounce homosexuality as a disease, that is where I disagree. It is not a negative trait, and you talking about common sense...? You lack common sense.

You are sick.

	06-04-2002 22:44									#190
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Homosexuals have found ways to produce their own biological children if they want to have their own children.

Homosexual individuals can be as productive and professional in their jobs or careers as heterosexuals.

Homosexuals can develop and maintain the same relationships of intimacy, trust, and love that heterosexuals have.

So I do not see homosexuality and bisexuality as being a disorder, since they can function the same way as heterosexuals --- only with a partner of the same gender.

And I still believe that the organizations that manipulate people into thinking they can change their sexual orientation is based on the hate-filled motivation to eradicate a PART of a person's identity.

The people that claim to have changed, have changed their behavior, but I still believe that they will also be gay or bisexual --- no matter how well they deny that part of themselves.

	06-04-2002 23:42									#191
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Homosexuals have found ways to produce their own biological children if they want to have their own children. Homosexual individuals can be as productive and professional in their jobs or careers as heterosexuals. Homosexuals can develop and maintain the same relationships of intimacy, trust, and love that heterosexuals have. So I do not see homosexuality and bisexuality as being a disorder, since they can function the same way as heterosexuals --- only with a partner of the same gender. And I still believe that the organizations that manipulate people into thinking they can change their sexual orientation is based on the hate-filled motivation to eradicate a PART of a person's identity. The people that claim to have changed, have changed their behavior, but I still believe that they will also be gay or bisexual --- no matter how well they deny that part of themselves.

Would you prefer to be straight?

	06-04-2002 23:56									#192
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quote: That you denounce homosexuality as a disease, that is where I disagree. It is not a negative trait,

Homosexuality isn't a negative trait!? WTF? Erasing the built-in will/urge/drive to reproduce with a female and have kids is positive? You do realize that if that "wonderful trait" gets out of hand, there is no species left at all, right?

We evolve to improve the species. An evolution to eliminate or lessen the event of reproduction in no way improves the species. It kills it. Therefore it is a serious screwup, otherwise known as a disorder or a negative trait.

	06-04-2002 23:58									#193
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So they should show more responsibility and thought towards society, Wiglaf?

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Would you prefer to be straight?

Actually, no I would not prefer to be straight for several reasons:

1) My partner will never have PMS.

2) My partner can never get mistakenly or unexpectedly pregnant.

3) We never have to worry about household duties being divided based on sexist gender division.



But even seriously --- I have never had any attraction towards any woman -- Crawford and Pamela never aroused me in the least.

I prefer being gay, since that is part of what I am.

	07-04-2002 01:37									#195
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quote: So they should show more responsibility and thought towards society, Wiglaf?

Explain.

quote: I prefer being gay, since that is part of what I am.

I doubt you're being serious.

quote: 1) My partner will never have PMS. 2) My partner can never get mistakenly or unexpectedly pregnant. 3) We never have to worry about household duties being divided based on sexist gender division.

You don't seem to be worried about AIDS all that much. Really, MrFun, you could probably talk yourself into anything.

	07-04-2002 01:42									#196
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf You don't seem to be worried about AIDS all that much. Really, MrFun, you could probably talk yourself into anything.

Your ignorance always shows through -- I will give you that much, Wiggy.

Have you ever heard of safe dating based on common sense?
Have you ever heard of condoms?
Have you ever heard of a monogamous relationship once you are done with dating?

I don't think you know how real life works.

And by the way --- heterosexuals definitely have to worry about HIV and AIDS as much as homosexuals do. Again, I had to counter your ignorant statement.

	07-04-2002 01:42									#197
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If he or his partner don't have it, why should he be any more worried about it than you?

	07-04-2002 01:50									#198
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Your ignorance always shows through -- I will give you that much, Wiggy. Have you ever heard of safe dating based on common sense? Have you ever heard of condoms? Have you ever heard of a monogamous relationship once you are done with dating? I don't think you know how real life works. And by the way --- heterosexuals definitely have to worry about HIV and AIDS as much as homosexuals do. Again, I had to counter your ignorant statement.

The risks are far lower for heterosexuals.

Homosexuals endulge in far riskier practices.

	07-04-2002 01:52									#199
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How is it risky in a monogamous relationship where neither are infected?

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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny How is it risky in a monogamous relationship where neither are infected?

For catching AIDS it is not. But how can you be sure.

But other "activities" gays do provide risks for hepatitis and bowel problems.

	07-04-2002 01:57									#202
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ANOTHER generalization based on ignorance and stereotypes.

Something like 90% of single heterosexuals engage in pre-marital sex with multiple people now. Not multiple people in just one encounter, but dating one person, breaking up, then dating another person.

God --- I can't believe I have to explain how basic functions of life operate.

AND risky behavior is based on an individual person's values, and decisions -- not what group of minority they belong to.

	07-04-2002 01:59									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's The risks are far lower for heterosexuals. Homosexuals endulge in far riskier practices.

"This is, of course, what scientists call 'bullsh!t. "

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Care to show some real scientific study to back up your claim?

	07-04-2002 02:00									#204
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quote: Something like 90% of single heterosexuals engage in pre-marital sex with multiple people now. Not multiple people in just one encounter, but dating one person, breaking up, then dating another person.

Oh, we have to worry. But if I went out right now and had sex with a gay guy and then a heterosexual girl, I'd probably come away with HIV from the homosexual based on simple statistics and logic.

quote: AND risky behavior is based on an individual person's values, and decisions -- not what group of minority they belong to.

Bullshit.

	07-04-2002 02:01									#205
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Wiggy, believe it or not, individual people have their own consciousness, values, and decisions.

	07-04-2002 02:02									#206
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quote: Originally posted by -=Vagrant=- "This is, of course, what scientists call 'bullsh!t. " Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Care to show some real scientific study to back up your claim?

I'd rather not have to trawl through sites depicting acts of homosexual behaviour thank you very much.

Let MrFun tell you what antics they get up to by Private Message or soemthing.

	07-04-2002 02:03									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf quote: "AND risky behavior is based on an individual person's values, and decisions -- not what group of minority they belong to." Bullshit.

Well, you disagree with that? Gay have risky behaviour because they are gay? That's nice...

By continuing that logic: All republicans are [dirty word], because they are republicans.
No need to explain.

	07-04-2002 02:05									#208
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I'd rather not have to trawl through sites depicting acts of homosexual behaviour thank you very much.

Ooh, you might like it. Don't make accusations if you can't produce evidence to support them.

	07-04-2002 02:06									#209
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quote: Originally posted by -=Vagrant=- Well, you disagree with that? Gay have risky behaviour because they are gay? That's nice... By continuing that logic: All republicans are [dirty word], because thay are republicans. No need to explain.

I'd get banned if I went into detail.

Some of them do actually eat shit of their partners, how healthy is that?

	07-04-2002 02:10									#210
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Some of them do actually eat shit of their partners, how healthy is that?

Yes, those heterosexuals are really crazy. And gays do it, too.