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Who will win? (Time out:0 days after 21-04-2002, 23:10)
Jacques Chirac
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Jean-Marie Le Pen
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Saint Marcus is offline Saint Marcus
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Nope.


You don't even live in Europe, let alone Italy, so what do you know? Hell, even I have been to Italy (and Spain) more often than you have.

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but he's sort of right... with Berlusconi on the top there's no chance of a return to socialism in the near future

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If this happens and extreme right continues to get strength I'm migrating to America (err, wait )


Venezuela or Cuba perhaps would be a good destination for you.... hey Cuba has nice beaches and Fidel Castro.

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You don't even live in Europe, let alone Italy, so what do you know? Hell, even I have been to Italy (and Spain) more often than you have.


What do I know... ignorant Marcus is back, as best as ever. Throwing every other belief into the trash. I have been to Italy and Spain more often than you Marcus, that is a fact. Now lets hear from some Italians that post here.

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There used to be one, namely Prometeus (this spelling exactly)

But he hasn't been posting for as long time, he was in the 4th pic contest though

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Can someone please tell me WTF is "Hunting, Fishing, Nature, Traditions" party and WTF does it stand for and for WTF reasons did it get 7.28% of the vote?

Good question. It seems that they promote country-side values like : No more cocacola, Mc Donald, Disney Land and Europe.

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There used to be one, namely Prometeus (this spelling exactly)


Well I am part Sicilian and got half of my family (dad's side) living in Sicily.... but as Marcus said what do I know.

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Your heritage doesn't plant knowledge into your brain, that was his point.

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Your heritage doesn't plant knowledge into your brain, that was his point.


True... but Marcus never makes a point without making himself look hypocritical.

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he's pretty inflammatory and so are you

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Gianni, go support dictator Franco. Hell, you can be the next one

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he's pretty inflammatory and so are you


Damn right... I am the political troll around here and I intend to keep that place.

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Gianni, go support dictator Franco. Hell, you can be the next one


I sure will.

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I support either Chirac or Le Pen. More Le Pen because I think France needs to reassert itself in the world.
And you think that Le Pen would give a good reassetment of Frances role in the world!

Le Pen is supported by just the kind of petty-bourgeosin kind of people that breed petty hatered against people unlike themselves.

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I sure will.


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Tiens, Zobo:


Greek premier, political parties stunned by Le Pen success
Mon Apr 22, 9:20 AM ET

ATHENS, Greece - Socialist Premier Costas Simitis and opposition politicians of all stripes on Monday said they were stunned by the success of an extreme-right leader in the first round of French presidential elections.


Saying he was surprised by the result, Simitis blamed Jean-Marie Le Pen's success on voter indifference. He also lauded Socialist Prime Minister Lionel Jospin's decision to retire from politics after being disqualified from the second round of voting.

"With his position, Mr. Jospin sent a very nice message that you can't keep a position without consequences. He did well to resign, he accepted his responsibilities," Simitis said.

His government spokesman, Christos Protopappas, described Le Pen's success as a "danger to democracy, a danger for social cohesion, a danger for the future of Europe."

"Everyone in Europe is shocked by the rise of the extreme-right, which adopted racist and xenophobic slogans and is characterized by an especially fascist view," Protopappas said, while European Affairs Minister Tassos Yiannitsis said the result left him "literally speechless."

Members of the conservative opposition also said they were troubled by Le Pen's rise.

"We are very troubled by this," said conservative New Democracy deputy Dora Bakoyanni, who is running for mayor of Athens in the October municipal elections.

Le Pen's success made the front pages of all daily newspapers, with most expressing shock.

Greece has had a troubled past with Le Pen, and in 1986 the late Socialist Premier Andreas Papandreou wanted to have him declared "persona non grata." At the time, Le Pen was backing a campaign for the release from prison of the military junta which ruled Greece from 1967 to 1974. Most of juntists have since died, or have been released from prison for medical reasons.

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If Le Pen gets elected I propose all EU countries declare him persona non grata

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EU reacted when Jörg Heider got into the Austrian goverment. Right or wrong, they should also di so if Le Pen gets the presidency. Anything else would be hypocritical.

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If Le Pen gets elected I propose all EU countries declare him persona non grata


So you are admitting that the EU is hostile to democratic principles! How "American" of you!

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So you are admitting that the EU is hostile to democratic principles! How "American" of you!



Oh, I'm sure the US will welcome him meta vaion ke kladon (with honors). After all, it's american tradition to do that with all fascists

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Hitler got elected too... Maybe Dinodoc liked him

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Lepen is an EU members. EU make him earn some money and to be protected against french law.

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Lepen is an EU members. EU make him earn some money and to be protected against french law.



yes, damn

But we can act on "national" and not "supranational" level

Is he in the europarliement?

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Hitler got elected too...


wrong. he was appointed.

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Oh well herr Besserwisser...

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If I can be a besserwisser I could say that he actually got elected; to the reichtag.

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Your point was he got elected into office, which is not quite a common practique in Germany anyway...

BTW, I certainly hope this place won't turn into a jerkish hellhole where any bullsh!tter that has been corrected can brag about his big d!ck by calling the opponent a Besserwisser. You just failed.

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Is he in the europarliement?


Yes, he's.

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With which political party?

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BTW here are the results so that we all remember them and don't forget!


It says Chirac has the victory guaranteed...

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It says Chirac has the victory guaranteed...


"Dewey Beats Truman!"

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I have been to Italy and Spain more often than you Marcus, that is a fact.


Oh really? Last time you said you'd only have been to Spain about 8 times if I recall correctly.

 
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