22-04-2002 20:24									#211
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yeah, now let's all brag about how often we've been to which country...

I'm sure I've been to Poland more frequently than any of you to any other country

	22-04-2002 20:26									#212
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Refresh my memory, is Poland right or left wing?

	22-04-2002 20:28									#213
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I have no idea.

	22-04-2002 20:38									#214
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LOL.

	22-04-2002 20:46									#215
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Your point was he got elected into office

Are you a mindreader? You didn't know that.

quote: BTW, I certainly hope this place won't turn into a jerkish hellhole where any bullsh!tter that has been corrected can brag about his big d!ck by calling the opponent a Besserwisser. You just failed.

It already is and has been since way back before you got here, boy. Besides, you must be a mindreader since you know the size of my ****.

	22-04-2002 20:50									#216
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Oh well at least Nationalist's first part makes sense even if his sig makes me wanna yell at him (and he could work a bit on his analysis, at least the parts about the immigrants).

What's wrong with my sig, and which part of the analysis do you think needs work?

	22-04-2002 20:58									#217
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Nationalist: I'm quite intolerant against most forms of nationalism that I regard as a concept that crawled out from the darkest corners from the intelectual world of the 19th century.

As for you analysis. I think you portrayed all immigrants as unwilling to anything but strictly economic integration. As I'm no expert of all countries in the world but that's much more complex than that. It usually takes two to tango, so to speak.

	22-04-2002 21:07									#218
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I don't care about Le Pen but it sure was hilarious to see all those French almost crying and fainting when the results were broadcasted

	22-04-2002 21:09									#219
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Haha I hope your dog dies

	22-04-2002 21:10									#220
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well the US has had Le Pen fascist types in power since its creation (not so long ago) so ofcourse you're laughing stupid yankee

	22-04-2002 21:22									#221
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As a 'foreigner' living in France, I am starting to get worried.

Even more worrying, Le Pen won the vote in the area where I live.

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	22-04-2002 21:23									#222
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Why are the French protesting?

	22-04-2002 21:24									#223
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maybe he won in your area 'cause you live there Josh

	22-04-2002 21:24									#224
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Well obviously you're not wanted there RJ.

	22-04-2002 21:28									#225
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Well I hope this will make the French left wake up and see that they can't afford the divisions that have plagued their movement for so long. I hope the next socialist candidate for President has a united front behind him (did that make sense to anyone else), and above all, I hope Le Pen doesn't win the election.

Liberte, Fraternite, Egalite.

	22-04-2002 22:01									#226
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A lot of commentators have remarked on the historically high 28% absenteeism rate and what a tragedy it is. Here in the US if the absenteeism rate was only 28% it would be a miracle--it's usually more like 50%. In many state and local elections only about a third of the people show up to vote.

	22-04-2002 22:36									#227
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One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.

	22-04-2002 22:38									#228
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.

He's French. The two ideas seem to go hand in hand from what I've seen of thier politics.

	22-04-2002 22:40									#229
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anti-americanism is another word for "logical thinking"

	22-04-2002 22:42									#230
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quote: He's French. The two ideas seem to go hand in hand from what I've seen of thier politics.

Yes, just about all French politicians aren't too friendly towards the USA, but Le Pen is far worse than Jospin or Chirac.

	22-04-2002 23:20									#231
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Yes, just about all French politicians aren't too friendly towards the USA, but Le Pen is far worse than Jospin or Chirac.

I'm not sure there would be any noticible difference in France's policies....

	22-04-2002 23:34									#232
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quote: One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.

you seem to be surprised.

	23-04-2002 00:01									#233
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 anti-americanism is another word for "logical thinking"

Complete bullshit. Europeans do many things completely ass backwards from logic. Replace "logical thinking" for "socialist drivel" or "irresponsibilty" or "reaction" and you'll probably be closer to the truth. Don't even get me started on this topic.

It seems that European nationalities are not reproducing enough to replenish their populations. Combine the near universal acceptance of abortion in Europe (an issue that is NOT about women's equality, no matter how you want to twist it), with a general disdain for the importance of the traditional family (possibly from the rejection of religion by many Europeans), plus a large acceptance of "alternative lifestyles", and you get the drastically falling birth rates of Europe. I don't blame people for voting for LePen. He seems to want to bring France back to its sense and get rid of the socialism that has been dragging it down for the past century. I don't care if he's anti-American. He doesn't have to be pro-American. A French President should be Pro-French first and foremost. France before Europe, France before America, as much as I believe that President Bush should be Pro- American, and should do what best benefits America, regardless of what Luxembourg or Syria or Mongolia, or any other country wants us to do. That is why I just chuckle when I see Europeans protesting America in the streets. Here's a news flash: many Americans don't give a damn what others think about us, ESPECIALLY France. We'll be executing criminals, protecting our 2nd amendment laws, protesting abortion, going to church, etc., long after the European countries have Arabic for their official language.

	23-04-2002 00:07									#234
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I don't read sh!t

	23-04-2002 00:08									#235
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he's got a point, paiktis, many of them... or are those called spots?

	23-04-2002 00:09									#236
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 well the US has had Le Pen fascist types in power since its creation (not so long ago) so ofcourse you're laughing stupid yankee

You seriously need to take a few history classes. Yes, all Americans are fascist, an always have been, while European nations have always been ran by peace loving green socialist hippies. Plain stupid. Have you ever heard of people such as Thomas Jefferson. Or have you heard of people such as Napoleon III. Name an American Fascist President, and I'll officially become a Communist, burn my bible, pardon every criminal (because there is no right and wrong, you know) make my pregnant wife get an abortion, and stop thinking for myself. Isn't that what it would take to become an Enlightened European like yourself, paiktis? I hope LePen becomes President of France, just to humble arrogant, self-righteous, leftist clones like yourself.

	23-04-2002 00:10									#237
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nationalist I don't read what you post. Because you respond to my trolls.

Don't tire yourself

	23-04-2002 00:13									#238
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quote: I don't blame people for voting for LePen. He seems to want to bring France back to its sense and get rid of the socialism that has been dragging it down for the past century.

Incidentally, Le Pen's said that economically, he's on the left.

quote: Combine the near universal acceptance of abortion in Europe (an issue that is NOT about women's equality, no matter how you want to twist it), with a general disdain for the importance of the traditional family (possibly from the rejection of religion by many Europeans), plus a large acceptance of "alternative lifestyles", and you get the drastically falling birth rates of Europe.

Well, what is to be done? Ban abortion, put the little lady back between the fist and the stove where she belongs, have religion mandated by state and keep gays so far back in closet they're about to meet Aslan, and by Jebus, we'll surely beat those anti-woman, anti-gay, intolerant religious Moslem fanatics by then? Is this one of those things where you beat the enemy by turning into the enemy?

	23-04-2002 00:14									#239
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Nationalist: hint; some posts (and posters) shouldn't be taken seriously....

	23-04-2002 00:15									#240
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(what do we use to say about americans and their ability to grasp sarcasms? )