26-05-2002 21:42									#1
	Ice oceans discovered on Mars! Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sc...000/2009318.stm

It seems that Nasa has discovered ice crystals less than a metre below the surface of Mars.
This makes the planet even more likely to be colonised at some point in the future. Mars, here we come!

	26-05-2002 21:43									#2
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that is so 90s....

today, we plan to re-colonize India and the Middle East!

	26-05-2002 21:51									#3
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Yay!

I think we can expect the first Chinese base on mars in a few years

	26-05-2002 21:58									#4
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great, another planet to **** up

	26-05-2002 22:05									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great great, another planet to **** up

There's something there to **** up? It's a bunch of dead rock...

	26-05-2002 22:08									#6
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Like Israel

	26-05-2002 22:17									#7
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but unlike India.

	26-05-2002 22:17									#8
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right on

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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Like Israel

Unfortunately there's a bunch of idiots there who feel that the desert around them is worth killing and dying over, so I have to care...

	26-05-2002 22:19									#10
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I'm impressed. This thread took 5 posts to go from the discovery of more ice on Mars to another ME thread.

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And the party begins.... again

PA!

	26-05-2002 22:28									#12
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Thanks for the link and the Brits for breaking the embargo! I think this is huge.

	26-05-2002 22:37									#13
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That's just a enormous amount of ice!

	26-05-2002 22:45									#14
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In fact, it might be too much ice for terraforming purposes...do we want a 90% oceanic Mars?

	26-05-2002 22:49									#15
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Let's make it 100%. An ocean planet. Fishing 24h/day

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We could also genetically engineer mermaids and send them there.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse There's something there to **** up? It's a bunch of dead rock...

Well...there are people who want to prevent the Moon form being ruined by development. No kidding. The UN is hearing their pitch...

	26-05-2002 22:57									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Sandman In fact, it might be too much ice for terraforming purposes...do we want a 90% oceanic Mars?

It would all evaporate into space before too long anyway.

	26-05-2002 22:57									#19
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You're missing the most important point. If its true for anywhere in our solar system, the presence of water on mars is a strong indicator of the potential for life. Now, we may have to really worry about martian microorganisms making their way back to earth at some point in the future.

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Yeah Eli, but first we would need mermaids for that

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quote: Originally posted by Sandman In fact, it might be too much ice for terraforming purposes...do we want a 90% oceanic Mars?

The article said 500 meters deep over the surface. That sounds like less than the amount of water in US oceans.

Assuming Mars is not all flat, there ought to be a fair amount of continent space.

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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH You're missing the most important point. If its true for anywhere in our solar system, the presence of water on mars is a strong indicator of the potential for life. Now, we may have to really worry about martian microorganisms making their way back to earth at some point in the future.

Why assume they would be a problem. As pathogens go, they are unlikely to be any worse than what is already on Earth.

	26-05-2002 23:07									#23
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"As pathogens go, they are unlikely to be any worse than what is already on Earth."

Fighting fire with fire.

	26-05-2002 23:28									#24
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I claim this planet in the name of England!

	26-05-2002 23:31									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Why assume they would be a problem. As pathogens go, they are unlikely to be any worse than what is already on Earth.

Theoretically thats true. But the effects of microorganisms entering a new niche can be potentially catastrophic i.e. HIV and the viral hemorrhagic fevers. Bugs there could be a huge biomedical boon, but not without significant risks.

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I'm thinking of an dinosaur planet (although we actually need dinosaurs for that)

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AFAIK - For any primordial extra-terrestrial micro-organism to have the ability to cause illness in Earth organisms by chance is small. They have not evolved to "prey" on Earth life-forms - there is no compatability.

	26-05-2002 23:46									#28
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Just colonize it already!!! :doitnow:
We are SOOO behind schedule. Just look at Space Oddysey...

	26-05-2002 23:52									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Sandman In fact, it might be too much ice for terraforming purposes...do we want a 90% oceanic Mars?

You forgot that Mars isn't very flat. Enough water to cover the surface in a uniform 500 metres wouldn't cover 90% of Mars by the time it had all flowed downhill; more like 15%.

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quote: Originally posted by GP The article said 500 meters deep over the surface. That sounds like less than the amount of water in US oceans

US oceans?