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So, what's it going to be for the Bear? (Time out:0 days after 04-06-2002, 18:57)
Russia will again be a superpower, comparable to US.
Russia will be great power, as it is now.
Russia will no longer be a great power - it'll just be moderately powerful, like Britain now.
Russia will be much more wealthier than now, comparable to US.
Russia will be wealthier than now.
Russia will be about as wealthy as it is now.
Russia will be poorer than now.
Russia will have taken back most or all of former Soviet republics.
Russia will have about the same areas than now.
Russia will be smaller than now, thanks to secessionists and like.
Russia will be democratic capitalist state, similar to US.
Russia will be a social democratic state, similar to Scandinavian states.
Russia will again be a communist state.
Russia will be a fascist state or equivalent authoritarian non-communist dictatorship.
Russia will still be led by Vladimir Putin.
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markusf is offline markusf
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Oct 1999
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"Well, Hitler also created the VW Kaffer"

A VW coffee machine ?



I will give you a hint, kaffer = bug, VW = car brand.

markusf is offline markusf
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"Together with Germany's resettlement fund program of Ethnic Germans in Kaliningrad"

What program is that supposed to be ?


I know nothing about this.. but it wouldn't suprise me considering parts of russia used to be east prussia/germany. I would expect many russian cities to have a great many germany speaking people.

The Vagabond is offline The Vagabond
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The visa regime? Uncacceptable?


Unacceptable. Are you surprised by that?

quote:

Chevo eshche? Kakao s chaem?


If kakao s chaem is served instead of visas, we'll definitely agree.

The Vagabond is offline The Vagabond
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Take a ship.


Thanks, but one feels more comfortable on a solid ground.

The Vagabond is offline The Vagabond
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LOL, I've read that Russia is going to build a huge nuclear power plant in the Kaliningrad region. So, Europeans, it's your choice: the plant or a coridor.

Az is offline Az
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"What program is that supposed to be ? "

The repopulation of the Kaliningrad Oblast with Germans. I have no link. If you want to look it up , though, I am sure you'll find something.

Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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I've heard about that before.

Actually, there must have been projects by some weirdos who were to exploit the alleged instability in Russia as well as a poverty in the Königsberg/Kaliningrad region for pretty nationalistic tendencies, such as advertising the regional population to join the federal republic of G., after doing some repopulating of the area with Germen migrants to Russia, such as those that were driven behind the Volga by Stalin when the war began.

Is that what you're talking about? When I first heard about it I found it hilarious, I mean it would basically re-create the corridor situation, but it seemed to make some sense back then

How is the living quality in K.?

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Apr 1999
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Oh, and btw the Potsdam accord gave East Prussia to USSR for administration for 50 years, kind of expired in 1995...

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did you say Konigsberg? What is this place? I've never heard of it.

and yes, that's what I meant. I am pretty sure it's govt. sponsored , though.

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Alaska was given for 99 years to the US , wasn't it ?

Roland is offline Roland
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May 1999
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"I have no link. If you want to look it up , though, I am sure you'll find something."

I will find a couple of nutjobs who push that idea. The part I wonder about is the government program. There are support programs for the german minority in the CIS, but what resettlement program ? Where did you get that ?

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Saras... the partition treaties among the victor powers had a Soviet zone in mind that basically had the shape of the 1937 east borders. The guys just never took it for serious, thought Poles were easier to handle than Germans. In reality, the Poles had their counter revolution first.

I don't think there's anything Germany can demand when it comes to WWII debts

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Well Roland, I haven't heard a thing about government support for that sort of programm either, I thought thpse wee only supported by some odd former army generals and stuff.... but government support? Dal, are you sure you're not simplifying things and mixing them up?

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yeah .

Germany : " Yes, we know we were lunatic nutjobs back then , trying to kill most of the world's population, as they were unworthy. But .... what about the Kaliningrad Oblast ?! "

Everyone else : ..... ... good one, Germans!

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That just proves your dumbarseness my friend.

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The borders are recognized by Germany. And who in their right mind would want Kaliningrad, for diddledum's sake ?

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And?

Roland is offline Roland
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And.

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Well, that comment didn't make a lot of sense in the context.

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--"And who in their right mind would want Kaliningrad, for diddledum's sake ?"

Someone with a small penis complex, Dr. Freud?

*cough* Russia *cough*

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Alaska was given for 99 years to the US , wasn't it ?


Who would we return it to?

There is no Russian empire anymore and AFAIK the Soviets didn't take on all of Russia's treaties when the reds came to power.

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25-50 "inspections" in one year for a small business??!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2002Jun18.html

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yes, but Russian Federation is the continuation of the Russian Empire more than of the Soviet Union. if you say otherwise, I demand all of the republics back.

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I didnt read the entire thread, just a but of news you may not know: Russia overtook USA and is now first weapons exporter in the world! I dont have a link, it was in daily paper. Pretty significant fact I think.

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Heresson is offline Heresson
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Not Kaliningrad, not Koenigsberg, but Królewiec of course...!

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I didnt read the entire thread, just a but of news you may not know: Russia overtook USA and is now first weapons exporter in the world! I dont have a link, it was in daily paper. Pretty significant fact I think.


Who's the third?

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I didnt read the entire thread, just a but of news you may not know: Russia overtook USA and is now first weapons exporter in the world! I dont have a link, it was in daily paper. Pretty significant fact I think.


Well, Russia may have overtaken the USA in terms of the quantity of weapon exports. But in terms of the net dollar income for weapon sales the USA still remains far ahead of Russia.
[To the best of my knowledge; and sorry, I can't give you a reference].

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YOU.


I thought that it was France.

 
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