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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/05/n...05CND-IMMI.html
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Ashcroft Proposes Fingerprinting Visas' Holders
By ERIC SCHMITT
ASHINGTON, June 5 — Declaring that the Sept. 11 attacks had made the flaws in American immigration procedures "starkly clear," Attorney General John Ashcroft proposed new regulations today requiring tens of thousands of Muslim and Middle Eastern visa holders to register with the government and be fingerprinted.
Mr. Ashcroft said the changes are necessary to deal with a new kind of enemy in a changed world, as demonstrated by the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
"A band of men entered our country under false pretenses in order to plan and execute murderous acts of war," the attorney general said. "Some entered the country several years in advance; others entered several months in advance. Once inside the United States, they were easily able to avoid contact with authorities and to violate the terms of their visas with impunity."
There is nothing un-American about requiring visa-holders to register and be fingerprinted, Mr. Ashcroft said, tacitly acknowledging criticism that began to emerge as word of the new procedures began to spread on Tuesday. He said United States' immigration procedures are considerably behind and less rigorous than those in many European countries.
"In this new war, our enemies' platoons infiltrate our border, quietly blending in with visitors and tourists and students and workers," Mr. Ashcroft said today. "They move unnoticed through our cities and neighborhoods and public spaces. They wear no uniforms. Their camouflage is not forest green, but rather it's the color of common street clothing."
Mr. Ashcroft said the new steps would be "a vital line of defense in the war against terrorism," and that the criteria for who will be compelled to register and be fingerprinted will be continually updated.
"We are an open country," the Attorney General said. "We will continue to greet our international neighbors with good will."
The initiative, the subject of intense debate within the administration, is designed for "individuals from countries who pose the highest risk to our security," including most visa holders from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and many other Muslim nations, officials said on Tuesday.
More than 100,000 foreigners, including students, workers, researchers and tourists, all foreigners from designated countries who do not hold green cards, would probably be covered by the plan, Mr. Ashcroft said today.
Antiterrorism teams made up of federal, state and local officers that have been formed in most larger cities since the Sept. 11 attacks would help immigration officials register visa holders already living here, using procedures similar to those employed to find 5,000 mainly Middle Eastern men who were sought for interviews after the attacks.
New arrivals from the designated countries would be fingerprinted at airports or seaports and be required to register with the Immigration and Naturalization Service after 30 days in the country, officials said. Violators could be fined, refused re-entry into the United States or possibly deported.
The plan will be published in the Federal Register. After a comment period, it will become a Justice Department regulation.
The proposal ignited a raging debate in the Bush administration. White House officials supported the Justice proposal, but the State Department lodged objections, fearing diplomatic repercussions with allies in the war on terror, administration officials said.
Today, the White House spokesman, Ari Fleischer, made no mention of any debate. "There is no question that there are laws on the books that allow the United States government to protect the American people," he said in advance of Mr. Ashcroft's announcement.
"And the president knows that we can take action to protect people that is fully in accordance with protecting civil rights and civil liberties," Mr. Fleischer added.
Immigration specialists, meantime, are warning of new backlogs at airports if already understaffed immigration service inspectors are required to fingerprint and process a new category of visitors.
In his announcement this afternoon, Mr. Ashcroft said fingerprinting was essential. "Terrorists and wanted criminals often attempt to enter the country using assumed names or false documents, false passports," Mr. Ashcroft said, "but fingerprints don't lie."
But some civil liberties and Arab-American groups have expressed outrage at the proposed requirements, arguing that such a policy was a blatant example of racial and ethnic profiling.
"What's the logic of this?" Jeanne Butterfield, executive director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said on Tuesday as word of the changes spread in the capital. "Anyone who's truly dangerous is not going to show up to be registered."
James J. Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, a policy organization, said the registration plan would be "an overtly discriminatory, inefficient and ineffective way to deal with the problem."
"This is targeting a group of people, the overwhelming majority of whom are innocent, but whose lives will be turned upside down," Mr. Zogby added. "The message it sends is that we're becoming like the Soviet Union, with people registering at police stations."
The authority for proposing the new registration requirements rests in a long-dormant provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, administration officials said.
A section of that law requires all foreign visa holders to register with the government if they remain in the United States for 30 days or longer. The law also required the fingerprinting of virtually all foreigners who were not permanent residents, except for diplomats.
The law remained on the books, but enforcement fell off in the early 1980's when the volume of visa holders climbed rapidly and the immigration service's budget and staffing dropped.
"By the early 1980's, the sheer volume of the effort combined with a lack of funding resulted in the practice being discontinued," said one administration official.
In 1979, the same year as the beginning of the Iranian hostage crisis, Iranian students were required to register with the government. After the attacks last year, most visa holders from Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Libya were fingerprinted as they entered the United States.
But the terrorist attacks had given fresh impetus to a much broader program. One administration official said the new registration proposal would give the government a leg up on identifying the highest-risk foreign visitors now living in the United States.
Congress has required that the Immigration and Naturalization Service establish a system to monitor the entry and departure of all immigrants, beginning in 2003.
But other officials said the contentious proposal broke free from an internal administration debate only amid the recent recriminations over what intelligence the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency and other federal agencies possessed before Sept. 11 about the possibilities of a terrorist attack.
One of the leaders of the interagency discussion on the alien registration proposal is a conservative University of Missouri at Kansas City law professor, Kris W. Kobach, officials said.
Although Mr. Kobach, 36, is only a White House fellow on temporary assignment to the Justice Department, he also played a central role in another contentious proposal to give state and local police departments the power to track down illegal immigrants as a new tactic in the global war on terror. |
Why is that idiot Ashcroft still allowed to speak? We can find an assasin for JFK, but not for this crazy?!
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
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I was listening to the Bill O'Reilly program this morning which discussed the problem we're having with Canada and it's rather open "refugee" policy. Apparently the Canadians allow refugees from across the world at to enter Canada without any papers whatsoever. The refugees then can enter the United States across an extremely open border between United States Canada. Whatever we do with respect to U.S. airports and fingerprinting aliens from selected countries, there really is no way we can prevent a terrorist from entering United States through Canada.
Last edited by Ned on 06-06-2002 at 07:10
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There is very little we can do to fight terrorism now. Look at Israel with all of their security apparatus. It just makes them mad. We and our guests will slowly lose most of our freedoms and the terrorists will do pretty much what they want. They win and we lose. We think we are winning the war on terrorism but they are just laughing while they wait...
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Guynemer
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
a) What about Michigan?
b) I was under the impression (given by you, IIRC) that the Muslim vote in the US is mainly Republican. Could this change (i.e. is their money where their mouth is)? |
a) Because the Detroit area, according to most reports, has the highest percentage Arab population anywhere in the world, outside of the Middle East. However, a high percentage of them are actually Christian.
b) The Arabic groups in the area did endorse Bush in the election--I was rather flabbergasted at the time. But he paid lip service to fighting bigotry and discrimination against Arabs, blah blah blah, and it worked, since on average, Arabs are better off financially than other minority groups, and they wanted that tax cut. Could this change? And interesting question. If Arabic groups started throwing loud support to other candidates, they could be in danger of another backlash...
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Guynemer
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Although, it should be noted that Bush was soundly defeated in Michigan in 2000 anyway, even with the support of most of the Arabic community.
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None of your Goddamned business
Nov 2001
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Che, you can't actually compare this to Nazi Germany with a straight face, can you? Why can't a state take sercurity measures? Why should we let everyone in the world freely roam in and out of our country with no supervision or questioning? That is ridiculous.
Last edited by nationalist on 06-06-2002 at 09:39
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06-06-2002 06:23
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. Civil Liberties aren't important to the man, and being a Civil Libertarian, that bothers me.... enough to make this Republican possibly NOT vote Republican in 2004 (probably Libertarian, unless the Dems have a good candidate).
We must stop this international 
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