19-06-2002 19:55									#61
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: panag 19-06-2002 10:50 This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here] Are you being as frustratingly enigmatic as usual?

hi ,

well , one can alway's take an example from the master , ....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 19:56									#62
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"He doesn't seem that bright, and seems to be getting torn apart by tidal forces on him from within the coalition government. I think what he wants is to keep things together domestically right now."

From afar, I agree that this is what it looks like. We get reports of cabinet meetings that run late into the night because of deadlocks. We hear that the IDF is trying to restrain the actions of the politicians. We hear of the left essentially giving up and not even arguing policies on their merits.

This government appears dead. Fallen. In disarray. It is no longer acting proactively in the interest of the Israeli people.

	19-06-2002 20:00									#63
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quote: Originally posted by DanS "He doesn't seem that bright, and seems to be getting torn apart by tidal forces on him from within the coalition government. I think what he wants is to keep things together domestically right now." From afar, I agree that this is what it looks like. We get reports of cabinet meetings that run late into the night because of deadlocks. We hear that the IDF is trying to restrain the actions of the politicians. We hear of the left essentially giving up and not even arguing policies on their merits. This government appears dead. Fallen. In disarray. It is no longer acting proactively in the interest of the Israeli people.

hi ,

we do act , but there is the law , ..... and we have to stay and try to work with limits , they not , that is the problem , .....

but no one wants to change the law for now , ....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 20:01									#64
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Very "chicken with its head cut off". Reactionary (not in ideology sense). Bombings continue, pressure is stepped up for gov to "do something", so "something" gets done...

	19-06-2002 20:05									#65
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Very "chicken with its head cut off". Reactionary (not in ideology sense). Bombings continue, pressure is stepped up for gov to "do something", so "something" gets done...

hi ,

well , since you can solve it , and know a lot about the whole situation , come over , and apply for a job , ....
there are still loads of jobs that need to be filled in , ....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 20:07									#66
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" we do act , but there is the law , ..... and we have to stay and try to work with limits , they not , that is the problem , ..... "

The laws aren't the problem. The unity coalition and lack of leadership is the problem.

I would prefer the snake Netanyahu to this BS. Why doesn't Sharon get it over with and call elections?

"well , since you can solve it , and know a lot about the whole situation , come over , and apply for a job , ....
there are still loads of jobs that need to be filled in , .... "

Bush spent a good deal of time crafting a plan and trying to make the situation better, no thanks to Sharon.

	19-06-2002 20:11									#67
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quote: hi , well , since you can solve it , and know a lot about the whole situation , come over , and apply for a job , .... there are still loads of jobs that need to be filled in , .... have a nice day

Sorry, I don't feel like being "Cannon Fodder, 3rd class"...

	19-06-2002 20:12									#68
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Couldn't resist seeing what exactly you were saying...

	19-06-2002 20:22									#69
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quote: Originally posted by DanS " we do act , but there is the law , ..... and we have to stay and try to work with limits , they not , that is the problem , ..... " The laws aren't the problem. The unity coalition and lack of leadership is the problem. I would prefer the snake Netanyahu to this BS. Why doesn't Sharon get it over with and call elections? "well , since you can solve it , and know a lot about the whole situation , come over , and apply for a job , .... there are still loads of jobs that need to be filled in , .... " Bush spent a good deal of time crafting a plan and trying to make the situation better, no thanks to Sharon.

hi ,

, we see something different , ....
its not because you dont know , that we are not doing something , ....

or do you need proof from that also , ....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 20:23									#70
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: hi , well , since you can solve it , and know a lot about the whole situation , come over , and apply for a job , .... there are still loads of jobs that need to be filled in , .... have a nice day Sorry, I don't feel like being "Cannon Fodder, 3rd class"...

hi ,

how about a nice job , in an office with airco , ....
just giving your "strategic plans" , ..........

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 20:28									#71
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"its not because you dont know , that we are not doing something "

The policies put forward by this government are unsustainable--who cares if you're "doing something"? If the government had clear goals and a plan to get from here to there, the U.S. could either get behind Israel or sod off.

	19-06-2002 20:35									#72
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The pals have proven time and time again that any agreement with them is not worth the paper its written on. As far as Im concerned Sharon can take back all the land. The sooner the better. He can take out those hate-mongering pal TV stations while hes at it.

	19-06-2002 20:46									#73
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: Perhaps Eli can tell us what Sharon's end game is. What does he want? Is he the fence guy? He doesn't seem that bright, and seems to be getting torn apart by tidal forces on him from within the coalition government. I think what he wants is to keep things together domestically right now.

What KH said.

I doubt he has any plan or goal he wants to achieve.

	19-06-2002 20:46									#74
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Cali,

Then what?

-Arrian

	19-06-2002 20:58									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Cali, Then what? -Arrian

Have a cigar.

	19-06-2002 21:01									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Have a cigar.

	19-06-2002 21:03									#77
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And when kids keep getting blown up on buses?

	19-06-2002 21:04									#78
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Don't tell me; have another cigar?

	19-06-2002 21:05									#79
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quote: Have a cigar.

quote: Then what?

During the reoccupation you do house by house searching in every city, town and village and kill every gunman on sight. Together with destroying all underground tunnels in Gaza and smuggling routes in Judea&Samaria.

After this, 99% of the weapons, bombs and terrorists are non-existant you leave the cities, remove the isolated settlements and build a huge wall.

As long as all the borders of the Pal territories to the outside world are sealed, there is no way to get more weapons. Therefore, no terrorism.

QED

	19-06-2002 21:12									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Eli quote: Have a cigar. quote: Then what? During the reoccupation you do house by house searching in every city, town and village and kill every gunman on sight. Together with destroying all underground tunnels in Gaza and smuggling routes in Judea&Samaria. After this, 99% of the weapons, bombs and terrorists are non-existant you leave the cities, remove the isolated settlements and build a huge wall. As long as all the borders of the Pal territories to the outside world are sealed, there is no way to get more weapons. Therefore, no terrorism. QED

hi ,

lets not forget all the weapons we gave them , for their police force , ...
and we should stop the infiltration from other countries , ...

and lets put the small hardcore group , who likes to do nothing more then killing people , just because they cant do anything else , in jail , and trow the key away , ...

yeah , we have it all , ....

now , lets get a vote from the Knesset , .....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 21:15									#81
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , lets not forget all the weapons we gave them , for their police force , ... and we should stop the infiltration from other countries , ... and lets put the small hardcore group , who likes to do nothing more then killing people , just because they cant do anything else , in jail , and trow the key away , ... yeah , we have it all , .... now , lets get a vote from the Knesset , ..... have a nice day

Hopefully, the blood sucker Ovadia Yosef will leave the goverment, together with Yisrael Baaliyah and the Mafdal. Then we say bye bye to Sharon, and hello to 70 seats of right wing parties.

	19-06-2002 21:20									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Hopefully, the blood sucker Ovadia Yosef will leave the goverment, together with Yisrael Baaliyah and the Mafdal. Then we say bye bye to Sharon, and hello to 70 seats of right wing parties.

hi ,

that is not a solution , well , not in the long run , ...maybe good for a short while , ...
, get after the core , .... sjee , we have the ability , and some fingers are itchy , ..... , ....
but no-one gives the "go" , no-one did in the last 10 years , ........

oh yeah , a big part of the solution , kick-out all those people who have nothing to do with us , ....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 21:25									#83
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , that is not a solution , well , not in the long run , ...maybe good for a short while , ... , get after the core , .... sjee , we have the ability , and some fingers are itchy , ..... , .... but no-one gives the "go" , no-one did in the last 10 years , ........

What core?

quote: oh yeah , a big part of the solution , kick-out all those people who have nothing to do with us , ....

And who will that be?

quote: have a nice day

Yeah, very nice. Dead soldier in Kalkiliya, 4+ killed in Jerusalem 20 minutes ago... Yupee.

	19-06-2002 21:27									#84
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I think I can now see the justification for the joke someone recently told about Israelis and political parties...

	19-06-2002 21:30									#85
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I think I can now see the justification for the joke someone recently told about Israelis and political parties...

Can you retell the joke?

	19-06-2002 21:31									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Eli During the reoccupation you do house by house searching in every city, town and village and kill every gunman on sight. Together with destroying all underground tunnels in Gaza and smuggling routes in Judea&Samaria. After this, 99% of the weapons, bombs and terrorists are non-existant you leave the cities, remove the isolated settlements and build a huge wall. As long as all the borders of the Pal territories to the outside world are sealed, there is no way to get more weapons. Therefore, no terrorism. QED

I think you're delusional. 99% of weapons and terrorists would be rooted out by the IDF? Comeon, surely you jest? You'll get some of them, maybe even most of them, but you're not gonna find 99%. Further, the sustained IDF action will help breed more terrorists. So then you pull back, build your wall, and they will still try to blow you up. Trying to stop any weapons going to the Pals would also be impossible. Building a giant wall around them? Shutting them off from the rest of the world? Do you actually think that is acceptable?

-Arrian

	19-06-2002 21:36									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I think you're delusional. 99% of weapons and terrorists would be rooted out by the IDF? Comeon, surely you jest? You'll get some of them, maybe even most of them, but you're not gonna find 99%.

Why not?
If every village and city is being checked(simultaneosly, not like in Defensive Wall) and all gunmen are killed in sight?

quote: Further, the sustained IDF action will help breed more terrorists. So then you pull back, build your wall, and they will still try to blow you up. Trying to stop any weapons going to the Pals would also be impossible.

Breed shmeed. If they dont have weapons the best thing they can do is jump on the barbed wire.

quote: Building a giant wall around them? Shutting them off from the rest of the world? Do you actually think that is acceptable?

Why not? Blowing up Israeli buses is acceptable.

	19-06-2002 21:42									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Can you retell the joke?

Just that if you got 3 Israelis in a room together they'd form 4 political parties...

More of an observation than a joke, I suppose.

	19-06-2002 21:42									#89
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quote: Why not? Blowing up Israeli buses is acceptable

No it isn't.

	19-06-2002 21:44									#90
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Bush spent a good deal of time crafting a plan and trying to make the situation better, no thanks to Sharon.

Oh come on. We know Bush couldn't think his way out of a paper bag with the entrence held open for him. It was most likely crafted by come committee of Powell's state department (mostly them one hopes) and people like Wolfawitz.