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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:20
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Originally posted by Chris 62
Hardly.
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Ah, the rapier wit of Chris62.
Chris62: I was planning on ignoring you, but you kept on going. So...
Do you not realize that everytime you try to argue with me, your arguments get cut to shreds? You end up resorting to insults, and usually quite quickly. Do you not realize how you look to everyone else?
Perhaps you're a glutton for punishment.
But the thing is, you're boring. I can't remember the last time you provide some facts to support your ramblings. In fact, you rarely add anything constructive to any discussion.
There are a lot of people who I routinely argue with, and I respect many of them even though I often disagree with them. The reason I respect their viewpoints is that they provide facts to back up their arguments, or they provide worthwhile opinion. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for you.
So go ahead and have the last word because it is not worth my time to respond to you.
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
time: 00:20
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Originally posted by Tingkai
Ah, the rapier wit of Chris62. |
I bet that's a phrase never used your way.
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Chris62: I was planning on ignoring you, but you kept on going. So... |
What are you talking about?
Off the medication again?
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Do you not realize that everytime you try to argue with me, your arguments get cut to shreds? You end up resorting to insults, and usually quite quickly. Do you not realize how you look to everyone else? |
Visiting fantasy land again?
You have NEVER won an argument with ANYBODY at poly, in fact, your consistantly one of the more ignorent posters here, if you really want brass tax evaluation.
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Perhaps you're a glutton for punishment. |
What are you talking about?
Looks like your off the deep end son.
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But the thing is, you're boring. I can't remember the last time you provide some facts to support your ramblings. In fact, you rarely add anything constructive to any discussion. |
A more psychocic rambling I couldn't imagine.
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There are a lot of people who I routinely argue with, and I respect many of them even though I often disagree with them. The reason I respect their viewpoints is that they provide facts to back up their arguments, or they provide worthwhile opinion. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for you. |
Ah Tinky, NOBODY respects you.
Go read couterglow to see what a number of apolyton posters think of you.
And bare in mind I never made any of those posts, you will find over a dozen posters refer to you as "jackass", and that is the least of them, and no, they are not made by friends of mine, people really do have a low opinion of you.
I never mention it because, frankly, your not worth the time.
I have no idea why you wanted to be again humiliated by me, you would think you would have learned you lesson by now, but intelligence isn't your bright spot, is it?
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So go ahead and have the last word because it is not worth my time to respond to you. |
I have no idea what you on about, nor do I care.
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
time: 00:20
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This is another example of how some police officers view their position not as a job, but as a party. They feel once they put on their uniforms they are free to do whatever they want. No one on their beat matters except for them. This is the attitude LA's police chief was attacking, and that's the reason many of the white officers out there hate him. |
First post, no facts in, you have passed judgement.
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Amen Albert. Although I'm not too enthusiastic about riots. Targeted killings make more sense. The Israelis say they target terrorists because the Pal Authority doesn't act. Well if the CA authorities don't act the people will have to execute justice themselves and target the CA terrorists |
Second post by you, you compound your stupidity by calling a police force terrorists and calling for murder! 
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All police are not terrorists, of course. But the officers who beat up this kid are terrorists, the officers that assaulted Abner Luima are terrorists, the officers that killed Amadou Diallo are terrorists, the officers that killed Patrick Dorismond are terrorists, the officers that killed Johnny Gamich are terrorists and the hundreds of other officers that we don't hear about that are needlessly abusive every day are terrorists. |
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Police who have broken the law are terrorists according to you.
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Many african-americans take action against criminal activity every day. Nevertheless, it is more outrageous for a police officer to murder than a private citizen . Crime happens, but when the crimes are being committed by those who have sworn to "serve and protect" this is a different problem requiring special attention. |
Post four, you change a beating into murder.
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If you call being forced to give up property you stole harassment then I guess the whites of Zimbabwe are being harassed. |
Post five, your first of the 'sins of the father are yours" reference, as, from what your saying, whites can't possibly own land in Africa.
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Zimbabwe's independence came in 1980, less than one generation ago. All land aquired prior to 1980 was stolen by a white minority government. Any white person sitting on a farm in 1979 stole that farm from Africans. In some cases the land may have been stolen originally in 1930 but guess what - buying property known to be stolen (or receiving such property) is a crime in every nation I can think of. So yes, the vast majority of white farmers in Zim are thieves |
Post six, you continue your rather unique (and dead wrong) interpretation of law.
It's all quite insane, but let's continue.
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In other words you didn't like what I wrote but you know its true. |
Number seven, someone took umbridge at your rather, "unique" view, so like all of the terminally delusional, you take this as aformation.
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I'm really not sure what you're talking about here, but most welfare recipients in the US are white. |
Number eight, the facts from thin air post, always a favorite.
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Zim has no policy to kill whites. In the recent political/land reform tension more blacks have died than whites. Why don't you mention the blacks? You must be racist if you ignore dead blacks but want to raise hell over a handful (less than 20 I believe) dead whites.
As for the European taxpayers, spending money voluntarily is not theft. |
Number nine, an apologist post for a vicious and vile thug.
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That might be part of it, but the land still needs to be reclaimed. The status quo is unacceptable. |
Number ten, your continued evaluation of the law, no matter that it flies in the face of the agreements made, but then, treaties are but pieces of paper, no?
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Michael Radu's "essay" is a collection of unsubstantiated claims and mind-reading.
The qoute is taken completely out of context. The race-baiting author seemingly wants us to think Mugabe views all whites as evil. Well the Ian Smith regime was evil. Apartheid South Africa was evil.
This statement means a majority of black farm workers have died. That is a bold faced lie.
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Mugabe is right and, of course, very few of the whites in the west would care about the Zim election if it weren't for the fewer than 100,000 whites there.
The author is probably upset that Belguim and France have been cut out of the looting they enjoyed under the US and French supported Mobutu.
A rather poor troll by M Radu. |
Number 11, you take on the spector of being a propaganda minister for a monster.
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Agreed. Mugabe has not handled the land reforn program properly. The farms should have been marked for repossesion, the farmers given notice and then sent packing. But the process in Zim has been less orderly than would be ideal. |
Number 12, more apologies for the lawless monster.
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I believe I did. The rediculous assertions by Radu and some posters here that Mugabe is a racist are completely unsubstantiated. I am quite sure that many of the whites who call Mugabe a racist would not think of doing so if he were white and the evicted farmers black. Then he would just be "rectifying an historical injustice".
I seem to be one of the very few posters in this thread who knows anything of the facts. Its amazing (well not really) that so many people who never called apartheid South Africa "evil" call Mugabe evil at the drop of the hat. A few dead, precious white bodies and Mugabe is evil. While apartheid can kill hundreds of thousands (including the Pretoria organized civil wars in Mozambique and Angola) and the white government is just our "partner against communism" and we have to use "constructive engagement". Ronald Reagan called apartheid "our friend". That is a blatant double standard, it is disparate treatment of whites and blacks, it is another example of white racism.
Thank You. |
Number 13 almost borders on the surealistic.
If you believe even half on this, your quite mad.
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No. Killing is wrong period. Mugabe should not be out to kill whites, and I have seen no evidence that he is. People here have seen reports of a few whites dying during a turbulent and tense political situation and are assuming that the deaths are organized genocide. No whites were lined up and shot by Mugabe's men. They died during chaotic situations during which many more blacks died . As I've said Mugabe has been wrong to let the land reform program become so chaotic. But loosing control of a situation is not synonomous with racial hatred |
Number 14 is an outright denial of reality, with yet another apology.
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I never put one word into anyone's mouth. I don't know how you or many others here feel about apartheid. I said many people who attack Mugabe never scolded apartheid with the same energy.
Reagan (and Big Bush) were vehemently opposed to economic sanctions on South Africa, they didn't even enforce the military sanctions wholeheartedly. Reagan vetoed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986. Congress overrode his veto in what was on of the few veto overrides related to foreign policy in the 20th century (if not the only one). |
Number 15 sees you claim that the reason Mugabe is suported is becasue...others didn't opose aparthied???
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"every non-white" - that is total racist crapola from you. All on-whites don't act alike. Not all blacks act alike. Any sentence you make with "every non-white" is racist so don't do it if you profess to be a non-racist. |
A change of pace, now I'm a racist according to you. 
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Chris62, just how stupid are you?
Making statments like "all non-whites..." or "all blacks..." is plainly racist and to do so is stupid, so look at your own stupidity. Or you can continue to wallow in ignorance and prejudice along with Spencer and his recount of The History of Southern Africa According To A Buch of Racist Boer Bastards . |
Here we see you frustrated, as I laughed off your nonsense about me being racist, so like a good little woodpecker you keep trying.
There is little point in continuing further, at least four people pointed out how rediculous your posts were, and you went merrily along.
I only have so much patience with jack-asses, you reacxhed my limit.
And calling you "son" isn't an insult, but now I wish it had been, as you are rather insulting if you believe your own drival.
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
time: 00:20
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Originally posted by Tingkai
Oh man, I said I was going to give Chrissy the last word, but when I saw this, I had to explore it. (okay, it sparked the egotism within me. People are taking potshots behind my back. Of course I'm interested). So I go to Counterglow and I do a search of my name and what do I find: one thread with only two references to me.
One of those reference was from a guy named Chris, who just by chance has the same birthday as Chris62, but of course, I would never want to suggest that Chris62 lied when he wrote "And bare in mind I never made any of those posts."
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You are so delusional it's pathetic Tinky.
The thread was deleated long ago, you think they would leave it?
Your even dumber then I thought.
Oh, a little edit, I went back to see what they left, I found this nice quote from Serious Black:
"Tingkai, I agree 100%. Just a total tool."
It's a shame the other thread is gone, but this enough to prove even in your little "rebuttal" you lied.
Loser.
Last edited by Chris 62 on 11-07-2002 at 23:08
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Carver
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reprocessing plutonium, Yongbyon, NK
Jan 2002
time: 23:20
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Originally posted by drake
I just had a discussion about this very issue with my bud at work at lunchtime. He started the discussion off by saying something along the lines of "here we go again", saying it in the tone that someone rolling their eyes would. The rest of the conversation consisted of basically coming to the conclusion that this is only news because 1) it is on videotape and 2)because its a white man beating a black man. Had the video not been rolling or had the victim been white, it wouldnt have even been a blip on the national radar screen. |
To go on-topic for a minute:
Yes, its only news because its on tape. And yes, the radar blip might be smaller if the victim were white. We don't know if the attack was racially motivated or not, but it doesn't matter. Just as whatever happened prior to the filmed event doesn't matter. That officer's assault was unjustified.
Contrary to what some posters here have alleged I'm not jumping to any conclusions about race or police brutality in general, I am just saying what was on that tape was wrong and nothing justifies it.
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Anyways, back to the insult slinging. |
Hopefully not, these kinds of insults are rather pointless and just detract from the conversation.
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Caligastia
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This thread has been jacked so many times I forget what its even about...
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Sprayber
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Dixie
Oct 2000
time: 23:20
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This whole case is going to be cluster **** because people on all sides are gonna be more interested in TV exposure then getting to the bottom of this. This is not going to turn out good if people keep talking and acusing before all the facts are brought to light. In fact, I bet that some of you here are just waiting on who gets to post the riot thread. 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...ime_police_dc_9
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The man who videotaped a police beating near Los Angeles that enraged black leaders and then dodged a grand jury inquiry into the matter was arrested on Thursday as he prepared to give a television interview.
Mitchell Crooks was arrested on warrants for petty theft and driving under the influence of alcohol issued in northern California by authorities who also served him with a subpoena to testify about his videotape before the grand jury.
A videotape of Crooks' arrest broadcast on local KCAL-TV showed undercover officers hustling him into a sports utility vehicle with tinted windows outside the studios of CNN as the 27-year-old man repeatedly screamed for help.
Crooks had failed to appear on Thursday morning at Los Angeles Superior Court, where the grand jury was meeting, after telling a local radio program that he feared for his life.
"All we're doing is arresting him on the basis of a warrant. If there had not been a warrant, we would have escorted him to the grand jury," District Attorney's spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said.
"He is a witness and we need him to authenticate the tape recording, otherwise its value in court would be greatly diminished," she said. Crooks shot his videotape from a motel room across the street from the scene of the incident in Inglewood, which abuts south central Los Angeles.
Crooks called a KFI-AM talk radio show hosted by John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou on Wednesday to discuss the case and said he was afraid that officers would be "coming after" him for videotaping the beating of 16-year-old Donovan Jackson.
"I fear for my life," Crooks said. "They're going to kick my ass in a cell and take turns on me, probably."
CROOKS ELUDED PROSECUTORS
Deputy District Attorney Kurt Livesay, who was also a guest on the show, then told Crooks over the air that authorities did not want to hurt him, and asked that he give his address to investigators. Instead, Crooks hung up the phone.
Prior to his arrest, Crooks could not be reached for comment on Thursday and a recording on his cell phone said that his voice mail box was full and could take no more messages.
The videotape, which was first broadcast on Sunday, shows Inglewood Officer Jeremy Morse picking up Jackson by the seat of his pants and slamming him face-first onto the trunk of a patrol car. Several seconds later, Morse is seen slugging Jackson in the face with a closed fist.
The tape sparked cries of racism and comparisons to the incendiary 1991 beating of Rodney King, which was also videotaped. The acquittal of four Los Angeles officers in that case led to the worst urban riots in modern U.S. history.
Several local law enforcement agencies and the Federal Bureau of Investigation were investigating the altercation between Jackson and Morse, a three-year veteran of the Inglewood Police Department. U.S. Attorney John Ashcroft ( news - web sites) sent his top civil rights deputy to Los Angeles on the case.
Jackson and his father, Coby Chavis, who was also present during the incident, have filed a federal civil rights lawsuit on Wednesday against the officers involved in their arrest, the city of Inglewood and the County of Los Angeles.
Black leaders, including congresswoman Maxine Waters, a Democrat who represents the area, and Inglewood Mayor Roosevelt Dorn have called for Morse to be immediately fired and brought up on state or federal charges.
Meanwhile, an attorney for Morse told the Los Angeles Times that his client has been vilified by public officials before the 24-year-old officer was charged with any crime, which could violate his rights to due process under the U.S. Constitution and make it difficult to find an unprejudiced jury.
"It's disturbing that elected officials, including the mayor of the city where (Morse) works, have already made up their minds about what happened," John Barnett, who represented an officer acquitted in King's beating, told the Times.
The paper also reported that Morse, in a report of the altercation written before the Crooks videotape surfaced, told his supervisors that he hit Jackson because the teen grabbed his testicles and would not release them. |
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:20
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Ri-ot! Ri-ot! Ri-ot!
Maybe (y)our people should be de-sensitive-ized about racial issues by education. I think all of our societies are hyped with that stuff.... because of WWII, because of slavery, the 60s, anything.
What we need is less hate, more love. And we only get there by more education. And more love.
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Ramo
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Austin, Texas, USA
Oct 1999
time: 23:20
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Carver, I completely agree that there desperately needs to be some major land reform in Zimbabwe. However, all Mugabe is trying to do is securing his own power by giving his "military verterans" free reign, without regards to a just policy. All he's managing to do is enriching his supporters at the expense of the farm workers (most of whom are foreign, BTW), the people who are the most bad off in Zimbabwe. IIRC, he's kicked upwards of 70,000 workers off of their homes, leaving them without any viable means of survival.
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